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Posted: 1/27/2024 1:27:29 PM EDT
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I've got mags, ammo, a grip, optics and laser waiting for one. I hope I can click "buy" fast enough when they're released
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Posted: 1/27/2024 2:30:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P229SAS: I saw on another forum post from last year that someone called Surefire directly and was able to order one of a few that were remaining on hand (assuming long gone by now). They were apparently told that an order of 25 or more would be needed to do another run. It might be worth calling Surefire and finding out if any are available or what would be needed to get more, such as organizing a group purchase. I did call SF customer service. Guy just kind of chuckled and said no. I didn’t ask about a minimum group buy but he wasn’t too interested in providing that info. My guess is he has had a lot of calls about them. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: I did call SF customer service. Guy just kind of chuckled and said no. I didn’t ask about a minimum group buy but he wasn’t too interested in providing that info. My guess is he has had a lot of calls about them. The downside to those flash/mounts is they require the mandrel to access your piston for cleaning. The ID of the hole through the front cap is smaller than the OD of the SF flash. So, every time you need to clean your piston (I want to say 500 rounds was recommended), you have to pull the flash. Cranking on the flash without the mandrel is gonna ruin someone’s day. Regarding the mags, Tom didn’t import mags. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:56:41 PM EDT
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I sincerely hope I don't miss the drop. I just bought the can
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Posted: 1/27/2024 8:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nzfly: The downside to those flash/mounts is they require the mandrel to access your piston for cleaning. The ID of the hole through the front cap is smaller than the OD of the SF flash. So, every time you need to clean your piston (I want to say 500 rounds was recommended), you have to pull the flash. Cranking on the flash without the mandrel is gonna ruin someone’s day. Regarding the mags, Tom didn’t import mags. You’re right on the mags, it was the stocks and gas blocks he mentioned. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2024 3:10:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ubermcoupe]
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Posted: 1/28/2024 1:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: HK is so strange to me sometimes. The fact that they're supportive of Tommy cloning their guns and making money doing it is...I mean am I the only person that doesn't get that? Don't get me wrong - I think it's great they have a good relationship with Tommy, but it always strikes me as odd. And why would they make MP7 magazines commercially available for a gun that isn't? It's a you scratch my back I scratch yours deal. Tom's been in the business for a long while and had a good relation with HK from the beginning. It's in HK's best interest to promote on the side what Tom does because this allows them to move units they don't need to tool up for (HK SL8, and USC) and liquidate built up stock for SKUs that have been lingering. It also appeases the US market for those clamoring for "Where MP7?" without HK having to do much of anything and no liability. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 1:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By renesis: It's a you scratch my back I scratch yours deal. Tom's been in the business for a long while and had a good relation with HK from the beginning. It's in HK's best interest to promote on the side what Tom does because this allows them to move units they don't need to tool up for (HK SL8, and USC) and liquidate built up stock for SKUs that have been lingering. It also appeases the US market for those clamoring for "Where MP7?" without HK having to do much of anything and no liability. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By renesis: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: HK is so strange to me sometimes. The fact that they're supportive of Tommy cloning their guns and making money doing it is...I mean am I the only person that doesn't get that? Don't get me wrong - I think it's great they have a good relationship with Tommy, but it always strikes me as odd. And why would they make MP7 magazines commercially available for a gun that isn't? It's a you scratch my back I scratch yours deal. Tom's been in the business for a long while and had a good relation with HK from the beginning. It's in HK's best interest to promote on the side what Tom does because this allows them to move units they don't need to tool up for (HK SL8, and USC) and liquidate built up stock for SKUs that have been lingering. It also appeases the US market for those clamoring for "Where MP7?" without HK having to do much of anything and no liability. Yep. The MP7 hasn’t been hugely successful. Anything they can legally do to offset development costs, etc. helps. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 2:20:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
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I wish him luck with this endeavor.
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Posted: 1/28/2024 2:51:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Yep. The MP7 hasn’t been hugely successful. Anything they can legally do to offset development costs, etc. helps. Serials are in excess of 30k. Not bad for a niche weapon. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 4:35:27 PM EDT
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Norway is probably the single largest purchaser of the MP7, they bought a lot of them (6,500 per Wikipedia). Otherwise it doesn't look like any large-scale users.
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:19:26 AM EDT
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I just bought a couple MP7 mags from HK Parts. Fuck me for wanting one of these stupid guns, and fuck HK Parts for their asshole behavior-yes I threw their stupid sticker that came with my order in the trash.
I probably should have just waited to see if a future supply of mags and the guns themselves are viable. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 12:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: I just bought a couple MP7 mags from HK Parts. Fuck me for wanting one of these stupid guns, and fuck HK Parts for their asshole behavior-yes I threw their stupid sticker that came with my order in the trash. I probably should have just waited to see if a future supply of mags and the guns themselves are viable. Ha I feel the same way. I snagged 4 of the 30 rounders from them a couple days ago that arrive tomorrow. I also did 7 of the 40 round back order from Brownells but I doubt those will ever show up. Only places that actually “have” them. Snagged 1100 rounds as well and debating on another K. Again, never gone this hard on a gun before buying it but this is my dream gun (or as close to it as I’ll get without winning the lottery) so I’m all in. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 10:13:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dtux]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Ha I feel the same way. I snagged 4 of the 30 rounders from them a couple days ago that arrive tomorrow. I also did 7 of the 40 round back order from Brownells but I doubt those will ever show up. Only places that actually "have" them. Snagged 1100 rounds as well and debating on another K. Again, never gone this hard on a gun before buying it but this is my dream gun (or as close to it as I'll get without winning the lottery) so I'm all in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Originally Posted By MikeMilligan: I just bought a couple MP7 mags from HK Parts. Fuck me for wanting one of these stupid guns, and fuck HK Parts for their asshole behavior-yes I threw their stupid sticker that came with my order in the trash. I probably should have just waited to see if a future supply of mags and the guns themselves are viable. Ha I feel the same way. I snagged 4 of the 30 rounders from them a couple days ago that arrive tomorrow. I also did 7 of the 40 round back order from Brownells but I doubt those will ever show up. Only places that actually "have" them. Snagged 1100 rounds as well and debating on another K. Again, never gone this hard on a gun before buying it but this is my dream gun (or as close to it as I'll get without winning the lottery) so I'm all in. I sincerely hope more 40rd mags become available. I'm glad I ordered some early. The prices on Gunbroker are... something ETA: Sweet jeebus. Even the 30s have gone stupid. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:01:05 PM EDT
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I'm curious what the magazine situation is going to look like going forward since he didn't import any.
Would be a real bummer to have the gun with no mags to shoot it with. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:54:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Ha I feel the same way. I snagged 4 of the 30 rounders from them a couple days ago that arrive tomorrow. I also did 7 of the 40 round back order from Brownells but I doubt those will ever show up. Only places that actually “have” them. Snagged 1100 rounds as well and debating on another K. Again, never gone this hard on a gun before buying it but this is my dream gun (or as close to it as I’ll get without winning the lottery) so I’m all in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Originally Posted By MikeMilligan: I just bought a couple MP7 mags from HK Parts. Fuck me for wanting one of these stupid guns, and fuck HK Parts for their asshole behavior-yes I threw their stupid sticker that came with my order in the trash. I probably should have just waited to see if a future supply of mags and the guns themselves are viable. Ha I feel the same way. I snagged 4 of the 30 rounders from them a couple days ago that arrive tomorrow. I also did 7 of the 40 round back order from Brownells but I doubt those will ever show up. Only places that actually “have” them. Snagged 1100 rounds as well and debating on another K. Again, never gone this hard on a gun before buying it but this is my dream gun (or as close to it as I’ll get without winning the lottery) so I’m all in. Tempted to backorder 2-4 of the Brownells 40rds mags for investment. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:55:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Tempted to backorder 2-4 of the Brownells 40rds mags for investment. I backordered 7. Just for myself unless I can never get a T7.. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: I backordered 7. Just for myself unless I can never get a T7.. At the point Brownells is capable of filling back orders, you should be able to buy them directly on HK’s webshop. The last import was 75 of the 40 round mags, 75. 25 went to one buyer and the rest went to HKparts. HK has stated they are filling an 80k government order, and it won’t be until afterwards that the civilian market gets any. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 2:29:02 PM EDT
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I just bought another 40rd mag for far too much. I think I'm done for a while, at least until (if) I get my hands on the gun.
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Posted: 2/2/2024 3:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dtux: I just bought another 40rd mag for far too much. I think I'm done for a while, at least until (if) I get my hands on the gun. The two for 900 buy it now on GB?? 
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Posted: 2/2/2024 3:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: The two for 900 buy it now on GB?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Originally Posted By dtux: I just bought another 40rd mag for far too much. I think I'm done for a while, at least until (if) I get my hands on the gun. The two for 900 buy it now on GB?? Those are some beat looking mags that dude's selling. Forget all that noise... ...I got the new one for $460
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Posted: 2/2/2024 4:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dtux: Those are some beat looking mags that dude's selling. Forget all that noise... ...I got the new one for $460 Oof. Glad I snagged some 30s from HKP. I thought those were high but the bids on GB are getting crazy. Fingers crossed the brownells ones eventually workout but I don’t think they will. Curious to see what Tom ends up doing. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 4:34:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Oof. Glad I snagged some 30s from HKP. I thought those were high but the bids on GB are getting crazy. Fingers crossed the brownells ones eventually workout but I don't think they will. Curious to see what Tom ends up doing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Originally Posted By dtux: Those are some beat looking mags that dude's selling. Forget all that noise... ...I got the new one for $460 Oof. Glad I snagged some 30s from HKP. I thought those were high but the bids on GB are getting crazy. Fingers crossed the brownells ones eventually workout but I don't think they will. Curious to see what Tom ends up doing. I stocked up on 30s the day it was announced and backordered a couple 40s. I'm impatient and wanted to make sure I got at least one 40 in-hand. "Oof" sums it up pretty well though. The stock is the last thing I still need to get. ...and the gun, I suppose. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 5:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dtux: I stocked up on 30s the day it was announced and backordered a couple 40s. I'm impatient and wanted to make sure I got at least one 40 in-hand. "Oof" sums it up pretty well though. The stock is the last thing I still need to get. ...and the gun, I suppose. Haha same. I got everything else now to include the Surefire flash hider which was my big win. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 5:51:11 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does he need to get a more stable web platform? I think it might be caving under what I assume amounts to a DOS attack from all the web change monitors that are pinging that page.
Not that I have one that keeps pinging me when it crashes and throws up a cloudflare error or anything. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 5:54:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: Is it just me or does he need to get a more stable web platform? I think it might be caving under what I assume amounts to a DOS attack from all the web change monitors that are pinging that page. Not that I have one that keeps pinging me when it crashes and throws up a cloudflare error or anything. It's not down due to heavy traffic. He's currently in the process of upgrading his web site. He said a couple weeks ago he is upgrading it specifically for the T7 launch. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 6:12:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mak0: It's not down due to heavy traffic. He's currently in the process of upgrading his web site. He said a couple weeks ago he is upgrading it specifically for the T7 launch. Yep in a Facebook group he stated he is upgrading servers. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 11:33:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Haha same. I got everything else now to include the Surefire flash hider which was my big win. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Originally Posted By dtux: I stocked up on 30s the day it was announced and backordered a couple 40s. I'm impatient and wanted to make sure I got at least one 40 in-hand. "Oof" sums it up pretty well though. The stock is the last thing I still need to get. ...and the gun, I suppose. Haha same. I got everything else now to include the Surefire flash hider which was my big win. Not too shabby, man. Are Surefire cans available? I went straight for the B&T suppressor for a clone-ish setup. |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 7:07:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dtux: Not too shabby, man. Are Surefire cans available? I went straight for the B&T suppressor for a clone-ish setup. It just uses a 556 mini can. Pics stolen from google  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 7:23:07 AM EDT
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Unobtanium gun in unobtanium caliber for unattainable price. What's not to love?
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Posted: 2/3/2024 7:29:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By foggy: Unobtanium gun in unobtanium caliber for unattainable price. What's not to love? You got the price part right, gun part semi right, ammo is actually pretty available and not crazy expensive. Pay to play I guess when you want something bad enough. Close as I’ll ever get to my “grail” gun so I’m in. 
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Posted: 2/3/2024 11:20:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: It just uses a 556 mini can. Pics stolen from google https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_1201_jpeg-3116608.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Originally Posted By dtux: Not too shabby, man. Are Surefire cans available? I went straight for the B&T suppressor for a clone-ish setup. It just uses a 556 mini can. Pics stolen from google https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_1201_jpeg-3116608.JPG  I read that changing the muzzle device out for the AAC or Surefire could add a bit of work but, after seeing that, I could probably be okay with that Originally Posted By foggy: Unobtanium gun in unobtanium caliber for unattainable price. What's not to love? For better or worse, the MP7 is a gun that I've wanted since I was a little kid drooling over it on television and video games. For the majority of my life, I thought I'd never even get to see one up close, outside of some rental range, if I got lucky. The T7 is as close to obtainable as it's going to be for a regular guy. I'll happily forego another toy purchase or two for it. So far, ammo has been the cheapest thing for it yet. I payed more the last time I bought 5.56. |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 2:57:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI read that changing the muzzle device out for the AAC or Surefire could add a bit of work but, after seeing that, I could probably be okay with that You need the armorers tool set to do it correctly without risking cracking the receiver. Bostic isn’t going to warranty your gun if you crank on the flash without locking out the trunnion with the mandrel. |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 8:30:55 AM EDT
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Hope some of the armorers kits get released.
4.6 case came in last night. What is this, a caliber for ants? Haha it’s so cute. consolidated firearms based on ammunition not that long ago and didn’t plan on adding any new cartridges but oh well!  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 9:48:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Hope some of the armorers kits get released. 4.6 case came in last night. What is this, a caliber for ants? Haha it's so cute. consolidated firearms based on ammunition not that long ago and didn't plan on adding any new cartridges but oh well! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_1371_jpeg-3117809.JPG  |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 11:41:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: eurotrash]
[#36]
What are you guys going to do with all your MP7 playsets and accessories if the drop comes and goes and you are left empty handed?
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Posted: 2/4/2024 12:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: What are you guys going to do with all your MP7 playsets and accessories if the drop comes and goes and you are left empty handed? Sell all my parts and pieces for a tremendous markup and buy back in when it becomes a regular part of the Tommybuilt lineup. How are you planning to cope? |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 12:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: What are you guys going to do with all your MP7 playsets and accessories if the drop comes and goes and you are left empty handed? …wait for the next drop… He’s got a ton invested in molds and tooling. I doubt he’s just making 500. I’m expecting it to be a few years before the guns, mags, and ammo are all freely available. |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 12:38:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: What are you guys going to do with all your MP7 playsets and accessories if the drop comes and goes and you are left empty handed? Probably be sad and cry. lol what answer are you searching for here? |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 12:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: What are you guys going to do with all your MP7 playsets and accessories if the drop comes and goes and you are left empty handed? Stash them in the safe and wait until I can buy one at retail. I won’t buy one from a gunbroker reseller, that’s for sure. |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 7:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dtux: Sell all my parts and pieces for a tremendous markup and buy back in when it becomes a regular part of the Tommybuilt lineup. How are you planning to cope? Of course, you must have bought everything cheap. Tommybuilt is doing great things but I am not a fan of the polymer quality and fit & finish. If HK releases an SP7, I’ll pick one up, but I’m not crazy about the TP7. |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 8:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Of course, you must have bought everything cheap. Tommybuilt is doing great things but I am not a fan of the polymer quality and fit & finish. If HK releases an SP7, I’ll pick one up, but I’m not crazy about the TP7. There will never be an SP7. Germany will never let them export it for civilian use. It wouldn't be worth tooling up in the US for the limited number of people who would pay. It will never happen. It's a clone or nothing. |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 12:02:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: There will never be an SP7. Germany will never let them export it for civilian use. It wouldn't be worth tooling up in the US for the limited number of people who would pay. It will never happen. It's a clone or nothing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Of course, you must have bought everything cheap. Tommybuilt is doing great things but I am not a fan of the polymer quality and fit & finish. If HK releases an SP7, I’ll pick one up, but I’m not crazy about the TP7. There will never be an SP7. Germany will never let them export it for civilian use. It wouldn't be worth tooling up in the US for the limited number of people who would pay. It will never happen. It's a clone or nothing. People were saying the same thing about the MP5/SP5 the years leading up to H&K importing those. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-doesn-t-HK-made-a-domestic-semi-only-MP5/9-478503/?page=1 |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 12:04:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: There will never be an SP7. Germany will never let them export it for civilian use. It wouldn't be worth tooling up in the US for the limited number of people who would pay. It will never happen. It's a clone or nothing. 
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Posted: 2/5/2024 2:49:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: akumadiavolo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: People were saying the same thing about the MP5/SP5 the years leading up to H&K importing those. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-doesn-t-HK-made-a-domestic-semi-only-MP5/9-478503/?page=1 And this is different. Centerfire handguns made after 1970 with a caliber under 6.3mm are automatically on the German prohibited weapons list. That forbids civilian sales locally and export for civilian sales. The SP5 is not under 6.3mm, the MP7 is. And as the MP7/SP7 is or would be based on a military weapon it is not eligible for any exemption from the prohibited list. The law isn't going to change, so the MP7 will never be exported for civilian use. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:42:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BBOHACH]
[#46]
My loot pile is building. Hopefully @eurotrash doesn’t keep me from getting a T7.
 3 more 20 round magazines on the way. Need to find some 40 rounders that aren’t insanely priced. Attached File |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 11:11:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dtux]
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Anyone want to trade for some GPNVG-18s?
You'll have to add of course. 
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:43:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/8/2024 8:46:16 PM EDT
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Just need the stock now and I'll be set
 
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Posted: 2/9/2024 1:58:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dtux: Just need the stock now and I'll be set https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/235602/1000006294-3122632.jpg I bought the compact version. |
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