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Posted: 4/20/2020 11:26:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2020 7:40:32 PM EDT
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is that the mythical remington 10.4 rail?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2020 2:00:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Snaps: is that the mythical remington 10.4 rail? It's the mythical Daniel Defense 416 Rail, as plastered on the right side of the rail above the Barrel Nut. 
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Posted: 5/13/2020 3:38:47 AM EDT
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I’m more interested in the NGAL sitting on that 416...
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Posted: 5/14/2020 2:11:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Snaps]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InfamousAK: It's the mythical Daniel Defense 416 Rail, as plastered on the right side of the rail above the Barrel Nut. I didn’t even know a DD one existed. And man I can’t read that small text I’m old How’s that can work anyway? I’ve been browsing for mine but I’ve heard it’s tricky with them being overgassed on these |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:23:44 AM EDT
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Anyone have one of Marvin's barrels in any flavor yet? Accuracy?
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:39:47 AM EDT
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There is a thread on HKPro about them. Guys are reporting very good accuracy.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2020 9:47:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: blindrocket]
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A little help please, if I were to clone a 416 where would you recommend I start? I seem to remember Brownells having parts kits awhile back but last I checked I think those were gone. Thanks
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Posted: 5/21/2020 11:26:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket: A little help please, if I were to clone a 416 where would you recommend I start? I seem to remember Brownells having parts kits awhile back but last I checked I think those were gone. Thanks Full gold gun. No better way to spend an insane amount of money |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 12:35:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARogueNinja: Anyone have one of Marvin's barrels in any flavor yet? Accuracy? I got one of his 10.4" barrels. Accuracy seems good thus far, though I only managed to get it to the range to zero it, nevertheless, was putting one hole on top of the previous one at 25 yards when zeroing it. Next chance I get, I'll take it out to a hundred yards. Functions really great, both suppressed and unsuppressed. On HkPro, Beth from Nefarious Arms spoke to different combinations of buffer spring and buffer, with different function rates between combinations, that would vary between suppressed and unsuppressed fire. However, using the spring/buffer combo that came with the MR556 upper, I had no issues with either setup. YMMV, but I'm pleased so far, and will have a better idea once I get a chance to shoot 100-300 with it. May take me a couple of weeks, though, got a lot on my plate. That said, one thing to note, there were a lot of delays from pre-order to delivery. Supposed to take a couple of months, went on about 9 months from deposit to delivery. If he still has them in stock, may not be an issue, but if it's another run, be prepared to treat it like an NFA wait. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:04:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket: A little help please, if I were to clone a 416 where would you recommend I start? I seem to remember Brownells having parts kits awhile back but last I checked I think those were gone. Thanks Buy a 416 upper off Gunbroker and put it on a MR556 lower. You've got a big budget for this project, right? 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 11:31:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: I got one of his 10.4" barrels. Accuracy seems good thus far, though I only managed to get it to the range to zero it, nevertheless, was putting one hole on top of the previous one at 25 yards when zeroing it. Next chance I get, I'll take it out to a hundred yards. Functions really great, both suppressed and unsuppressed. On HkPro, Beth from Nefarious Arms spoke to different combinations of buffer spring and buffer, with different function rates between combinations, that would vary between suppressed and unsuppressed fire. However, using the spring/buffer combo that came with the MR556 upper, I had no issues with either setup. YMMV, but I'm pleased so far, and will have a better idea once I get a chance to shoot 100-300 with it. May take me a couple of weeks, though, got a lot on my plate. That said, one thing to note, there were a lot of delays from pre-order to delivery. Supposed to take a couple of months, went on about 9 months from deposit to delivery. If he still has them in stock, may not be an issue, but if it's another run, be prepared to treat it like an NFA wait. Appreciate the response, I have a 14.5 M4 profile coming already. Was really looking at how they compare to the 416 CL barrels. There's some hit or miss info on Pro and not really any full on reviews, just figured I'd ask here too. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2020 12:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket: A little help please, if I were to clone a 416 where would you recommend I start? I seem to remember Brownells having parts kits awhile back but last I checked I think those were gone. Thanks Build it with a Nefarious Arms barrel mated to Brownells parts or just buy a real-deal 416 upper and put it on a Lower-either MR556, Brownells or go the crazy route and engrave a blank and machine and anodize your own to get a normal A5 magwell. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:21:50 PM EDT
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Thank you for the help everyone. I understand it’s a baller expense.
I have a MK18 clone and so I’m used to stupid prices, though the 416 dream makes the MK18 look cheap. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket: Thank you for the help everyone. I understand it’s a baller expense. I have a MK18 clone and so I’m used to stupid prices, though the 416 dream makes the MK18 look cheap. 2000 dollar risers that do nothing different than a 50 dollar riser really sets the tone for this build |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 8:19:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2020 1:36:06 PM EDT
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 The latest configuration. |
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Posted: 8/25/2020 3:57:29 PM EDT
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BTT
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Posted: 8/25/2020 4:07:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rbutcher]
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Placeholder for updates
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2020 7:52:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/31/2020 8:28:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50288644106_be61a6e5c0_c.jpg Lookin' good. Cheers |
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USA
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Posted: 9/10/2020 8:49:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ahr6912]
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What do you think...
https://youtu.be/RWNcYAyqEE4 |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 5:54:34 PM EDT
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How feasible is it to build a 416 clone using the Brownells upper and lower receivers?
Are the upper parts (bolt, carrier, barrel, gas block, piston assembly) hard to find? Where does one find them? And are there any off brand names one should stay away from as far as barrels go? |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 6:19:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: How feasible is it to build a 416 clone using the Brownells upper and lower receivers? Are the upper parts (bolt, carrier, barrel, gas block, piston assembly) hard to find? Where does one find them? And are there any off brand names one should stay away from as far as barrels go? I don’t know about the barrels because my upper is a factory 10.4 416. But Midwest gunworks has a lot of the parts broken down. I suspect you could look there. |
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Posted: 10/12/2020 7:25:49 PM EDT
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I've got a question for you guys. Has anyone owned both the MI rail and the G rail? How do they compare? The MI rail is nice but it has a weird shape....very tall/narrow. I don't mind it but I would like a rail that isn't so long but covers the gas block.
pic thread.  Attached File |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2020 1:34:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: How feasible is it to build a 416 clone using the Brownells upper and lower receivers? Are the upper parts (bolt, carrier, barrel, gas block, piston assembly) hard to find? Where does one find them? And are there any off brand names one should stay away from as far as barrels go? I'm also curious about this. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2020 8:35:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d: I've got a question for you guys. Has anyone owned both the MI rail and the G rail? How do they compare? The MI rail is nice but it has a weird shape....very tall/narrow. I don't mind it but I would like a rail that isn't so long but covers the gas block. pic thread. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/72476/20200807_133320_jpg-1632853.JPG Check out the KDG 416 Rail. It is lighter than the G rail and the 10" just covers the gas block. https://kineticdg.com/product/hk-556-m-lok-rail-system-10-anodized-brown/ |
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Posted: 10/13/2020 4:30:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eodinert]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: I'm also curious about this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: How feasible is it to build a 416 clone using the Brownells upper and lower receivers? Are the upper parts (bolt, carrier, barrel, gas block, piston assembly) hard to find? Where does one find them? And are there any off brand names one should stay away from as far as barrels go? I'm also curious about this. Short of buying an original 416 kit for about $4000+, you've missed the boat on this. Even though some parts are pretty cheap (I got a lower at Brownells the other day for under $200) There are certain parts you can't find right now. Also, there are some clone parts out there (barrels and gas blocks), aftermarket rails, etc... but real HK parts tend to be $$$$. I started with an MR556, and I rebarreled it, then the extra barrel sort of started growing into a new upper...but I can't find a bolt carrier or op rod... and I'm going to cheat and use non-HK parts in my lower. Buy an MR556. It will be cheaper, I promise. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2020 10:03:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodinert: Short of buying an original 416 kit for about $4000+, you've missed the boat on this. Even though some parts are pretty cheap (I got a lower at Brownells the other day for under $200) There are certain parts you can't find right now. Also, there are some clone parts out there (barrels and gas blocks), aftermarket rails, etc... but real HK parts tend to be $$$$. I started with an MR556, and I rebarreled it, then the extra barrel sort of started growing into a new upper...but I can't find a bolt carrier or op rod... and I'm going to cheat and use non-HK parts in my lower. Buy an MR556. It will be cheaper, I promise. From what I've gathered I would have to agree that I missed the boat. MR556 is definitely the route I'm going to go. Thank you for the info. Do you happen know what would be considered a 'good' price on a MR556? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2020 10:16:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2020 11:02:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50390064456_9699ce000a_b.jpg Unity Tactical optic riser ?? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2020 12:38:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iluvmy86: Unity Tactical optic riser ?? Yes...should have got it a long time ago too. |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 4:10:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2020 7:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ICU: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/16226/IMG_0797_JPG-1639021.JPG Bestest rail. Cheers |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 2:37:06 PM EDT
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How hard is it to find the picatinny attachments for this rail? I just picked this up and it didn't come with them.
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Posted: 11/19/2020 3:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye: How hard is it to find the picatinny attachments for this rail? I just picked this up and it didn't come with them. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260726/20201117_212833-1691582.jpg Pretty sure Geissele still sells them on their website. |
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Posted: 11/19/2020 7:02:32 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if the limited FDE MR556 rifles anodized or cerakoted?
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Posted: 11/19/2020 9:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man: Does anyone know if the limited FDE MR556 rifles anodized or cerakoted? They were Cerakoted. Millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Meanwhile, some tanodized HK416 love:  ~Augee |
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Posted: 11/21/2020 6:29:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: IneptKomodo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: They were Cerakoted. Millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Meanwhile, some tanodized HK416 love: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/AE5BB170-5665-4D86-8FBD-41F35B41855B-1692148.jpg ~Augee @TNVC_Augee Did you start out with unfinished receivers, or were they refinished? The process for that? Last question I promise, got any more cool pictures? I'm trying to build a tanodized gun and I'm about to send the receivers off to someone I trust. |
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Posted: 11/21/2020 11:39:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoEnge1136: @TNVC_Augee Did you start out with unfinished receivers, or were they refinished? The process for that? Last question I promise, got any more cool pictures? I'm trying to build a tanodized gun and I'm about to send the receivers off to someone I trust. They’re refinished HK parts. The process is nothing special, it’s finding someone who will do that’s the hard part (I had this done over three years ago, and spent an additional two years before that researching it, and the guy that did it is no longer accepting new work). As for more pictures, not to engage in the shameless self promotion, but there’s a good number on my Instagram @augee_kim , I float around on the forums, but nowhere near as much now as I did in the past, but photographs are around here and there over the years. ~Augee |
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Posted: 12/3/2020 5:58:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sbye]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye: How hard is it to find the picatinny attachments for this rail? I just picked this up and it didn't come with them. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260726/20201117_212833-1691582.jpg Anyone have some picatinny rail sections for this rail that I could buy off of them? Geissele is out of stock with no idea when they will have more. I really only need one rail at this time |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: From what I've gathered I would have to agree that I missed the boat. MR556 is definitely the route I'm going to go. Thank you for the info. Do you happen know what would be considered a 'good' price on a MR556? Get the MR556 before you miss the boat on that. Prices are creeping up. I have seen $3299 for 81000579 (current model on hk-usa). That $4K+ on gun broker is nuts. I am doing the 416, but I decided to start with a MR556 and swap 416 in as I go, as opposed to trying to find all the 416 parts. So I have a working rifle from day 1. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2020 1:01:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: Get the MR556 before you miss the boat on that. Prices are creeping up. I have seen $3299 for 81000579 (current model on hk-usa). That $4K+ on gun broker is nuts. I am doing the 416, but I decided to start with a MR556 and swap 416 in as I go, as opposed to trying to find all the 416 parts. So I have a working rifle from day 1. What exactly are you swapping over parts wise? You aren't just chopping the barrel and switching gas blocks? |
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Posted: 12/16/2020 8:10:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RenegadeX]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: What exactly are you swapping over parts wise? You aren't just chopping the barrel and switching gas blocks? I am doing a retro build, so I sourced the old school furniture. Eventually I would like a 100% 416 upper, but I am OK with a working MR556 upper. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2020 1:20:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: I am doing a retro build, so I sourced the old school furniture. Eventually I would like a 100% 416 upper, but I am OK with a working MR556 upper. Are you rolling with the quad rail? |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 10:33:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: Are you rolling with the quad rail? Yes 9” |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2020 10:10:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: Yes 9” Nice, i plan to do the same if I can track down a MR556. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 10:34:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: Nice, i plan to do the same if I can track down a MR556. I got mine from PSA last week. I googled the part number and they popped up. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2020 1:40:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: I got mine from PSA last week. I googled the part number and they popped up. They had the MR556 rifle in stock or the quad rail handguard? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2020 9:19:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hulkie]
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Got a few all with BRN4 lowers. Old style 416 is AF upper, Geisselle 10.4 is AK upper, 14.5 is all 416 upper with Nefarious Arms barrel, I do have the spare AH 10.4 barrel if ever needed, M27 clone with all 416 parts minus Nefarious Arms barrel, RDTS MP5F and Dakota Tactical D54N SBR.
I will say the Nefarious Arms barrels are tackdrivers. Both are sub MOA at 100 with 77's and sub MOA to 600 and even further. One likes 77 SMK and the other loves Lapua 77 Scenars. Still need a NF for the M27 clone. 
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