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Posted: 3/21/2015 7:49:15 PM EDT
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Two-stage heavy buffer, HK21E buttpad, Fabian Bros DTA muzzle brake.
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Posted: 3/21/2015 8:03:14 PM EDT
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Heavy buffer is all you really need, makes a huge difference.
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Posted: 3/22/2015 9:36:53 AM EDT
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The heavy recoil buffer (such as the one Parabellum Combat Systems/PCS makes) will help you out, and with an HK21 buttpad that might be all that you need. In fact the HK21 buttpad might be enough all by itself, it runs about 40 to 50 bucks or so from Robert at RTG Parts. I think the way that the 21 pad spreads the recoil out is what helps out the most to mitigate recoil; the heavy buffer in a fixed G3A3 type buttstock with regular buttpad does make a noticeable difference but to be honest in my own experience it does not make the dramatic difference in lowering felt recoil that some have claimed it will.
I would try the 21 buttpad first and see if that helps enough on its own. |
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Posted: 3/22/2015 12:28:21 PM EDT
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http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/PWS-FSC-HK-Threaded-Barrel-Compensator-121p837.htm
This. The most effective way to reduce recoil on just about any rifle is with a good muzzle break and this one works. HDH. |
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Posted: 3/22/2015 1:23:48 PM EDT
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Check your bolt gap if it is out of spec your rifle can recoil a lot harder than it should.
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Posted: 3/22/2015 7:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/PWS-FSC-HK-Threaded-Barrel-Compensator-121p837.htm This. The most effective way to reduce recoil on just about any rifle is with a good muzzle break and this one works. HDH. My SCAR17 has one of these They definitely work Thanks for the suggestions so far |
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Posted: 3/22/2015 10:18:26 PM EDT
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Check your bolt gap if it is out of spec your rifle can recoil a lot harder than it should. This is very true. |
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Posted: 3/22/2015 11:11:48 PM EDT
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What is a good brake for the 91 type rifles ? Already going to be experimenting with the rubber buttpad and a heavy buffer. I'm trying to make my 7.62X51 rifles more friendly for the whole family Any buffer, pad, comp combos you recommend ? I know not much can be done with the collapsible configuration. Thanks The HK collapsible stock is an absolute War Crime... It focuses all the energy onto the smallest possible area. OUCH!! Ditch it for the fixed stock and then use the items suggested HK21 pad & the heavy buffer kit will do wonders BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 3/24/2015 12:57:05 PM EDT
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Bill Springfield makes a replacement buffer for the A3 stock. He claims around 30% recoil reduction
A3 buffer |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 4:27:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The HK collapsible stock is an absolute War Crime... It focuses all the energy onto the smallest possible area. OUCH!! Ditch it for the fixed stock and then use the items suggested HK21 pad & the heavy buffer kit will do wonders BIGGER_HAMMER Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is a good brake for the 91 type rifles ? Already going to be experimenting with the rubber buttpad and a heavy buffer. I'm trying to make my 7.62X51 rifles more friendly for the whole family Any buffer, pad, comp combos you recommend ? I know not much can be done with the collapsible configuration. Thanks The HK collapsible stock is an absolute War Crime... It focuses all the energy onto the smallest possible area. OUCH!! Ditch it for the fixed stock and then use the items suggested HK21 pad & the heavy buffer kit will do wonders BIGGER_HAMMER Anybody know why the collapsible stock is curved the wrong way? How come someone never made one that looks like the collapsible stock on the HK-94? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:11:08 AM EDT
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Anybody know why the collapsible stock is curved the wrong way? How come someone never made one that looks like the collapsible stock on the HK-94? The early style were like the Mp5, but steel with no pad. The theory for years has been that HK made them concave for grenade launching, but I can't see it being a benefit for that. I figure it's so that the bottom doesn't snag on armor and LBV. As far as the pain of it, maybe Germans (and Norwegians and Swedish and Pakis and...) just aren't soft ;). It's never bothered me and I prefer it to the fixed stock in any scenario I've used it in. 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 1:44:31 PM EDT
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I hadn't see the curved (as opposed to convex) stock before.
I haven't shot my G3 in a while but when I do, it is always with the full stock.
So, what is with the sharp points on the end? (pic borrowed from the web)  |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:06:18 PM EDT
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It's for grip on your shoulder or dinner prep (steaks)
The pad is rubber, so at least it's not a true meat tenderizer |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's for grip on your shoulder or dinner prep (steaks) The pad is rubber, so at least it's not a true meat tenderizer Even if it is rubber, it still looks just like this.  |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 3:17:57 PM EDT
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Yeah, but it's just a 7.62x51. It's not like it's a dangerous game round (granted, this is a 30'06)
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Posted: 3/25/2015 3:26:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but it's just a 7.62x51. It's not like it's a dangerous game round (granted, this is a 30'06) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OGpOi0IvJHE/UpgChJnYnpI/AAAAAAAAJSY/hJVmQ4oiNtc/s320/ACF98DD.jpg True. Still, on full auto I'm going to stick with the full stock and not the collapsible. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 3:03:01 AM EDT
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The curved stock is for it to be put on the hip bone front section as I was told from a HK dealer.
Kinda hard to believe. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 8:03:37 AM EDT
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Just IMHO, but on FA, the A3 stock seemed like less recoil. Kind of like getting stuck with a needle vs. getting a tattoo.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:12:47 AM EDT
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I have that old style A3 stock on my HK41 and I find the recoil is fine. My 5' tall daughter can shoot it...I'm 55 and have been shooting these since the 70s..I do suspect people weened on ARs just arent used to battle rifle recoil.
I doubt that the newer A3 stock was changed because of body armour as this was done long before such armour was general Bundeswehr issue. I qualified with the G3 in the 80s and at that time with full conscription there were lots of women in the German military. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:32:35 PM EDT
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I like the A3 stock, have no problem with the recoil. Get some perspective and shoot some old bolt action Rifles. ;)
Now this is RECOIL! HDH. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:02:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Anybody know why the collapsible stock is curved the wrong way? How come someone never made one that looks like the collapsible stock on the HK-94? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is a good brake for the 91 type rifles ? Already going to be experimenting with the rubber buttpad and a heavy buffer. I'm trying to make my 7.62X51 rifles more friendly for the whole family Any buffer, pad, comp combos you recommend ? I know not much can be done with the collapsible configuration. Thanks The HK collapsible stock is an absolute War Crime... It focuses all the energy onto the smallest possible area. OUCH!! Ditch it for the fixed stock and then use the items suggested HK21 pad & the heavy buffer kit will do wonders BIGGER_HAMMER Anybody know why the collapsible stock is curved the wrong way? How come someone never made one that looks like the collapsible stock on the HK-94? The butt plate is curved to achieve the proper muzzle angle(s) for grenade launching. That's my understanding anyway. |
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