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Posted: 12/4/2014 11:17:10 PM EDT

Basically it's an MP5, with the front end stretched out to to something similar to an Hk93. I always hated the way the Hk 94's looked like the MP5's mentally challenged cousin.

Weight: 7 Lbs 2 Oz
Length: 36"
Caliber: 9mm
Trigger pull: a clean 5 lbs

I gathered all the bits, and did some of the lathe work. The final lathe work, and all the welding and assembly was done by PCS (and they did a excellent job).

Posted: 12/4/2014 11:45:57 PM EDT

[#1]

holy cow take my money!

Posted: 12/4/2014 11:56:34 PM EDT

[#2]

Posted: 12/5/2014 12:00:31 AM EDT

[#3]

Very, very nice. More pics please. Oh, and I may need more Kleenex.

Posted: 12/5/2014 12:07:45 AM EDT

[#4]

I like the wood look.

Posted: 12/5/2014 12:35:30 AM EDT

[#5]

HK34?

Looks great!

Posted: 12/5/2014 12:48:19 AM EDT

[#6]

Yep it's a 34, I refrained from using it as typically the only people who know that term are on Hkpro, and even half of them don't know it.

Posted: 12/5/2014 1:49:33 AM EDT

[#7]

Posted: 12/5/2014 5:40:51 AM EDT

[#8]

Nice work!

Posted: 12/5/2014 9:06:33 AM EDT

[#9]

Really nice HK34 you've got there! Even though I have an SBR, if someone offered this for sale, I'd buy one!

Posted: 12/5/2014 9:15:01 AM EDT

[#10]

Really, really nice, great work!

Posted: 12/5/2014 9:46:55 AM EDT

[#11]

Nice HK34. I would love one myself

Posted: 12/5/2014 10:06:51 AM EDT

[#12]

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Really nice HK34 you've got there! Even though I have an SBR, if someone offered this for sale, I'd buy one!

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Yup. Only 16" version I would own.

Posted: 12/5/2014 10:24:13 AM EDT

[#13]

Nice!

Posted: 12/5/2014 11:07:11 AM EDT

[#14]

I like it............very nice

Posted: 12/5/2014 12:15:46 PM EDT

[#15]

off to google hk34

Posted: 12/5/2014 1:03:34 PM EDT

[#16]

That's awesome!

Posted: 12/5/2014 4:26:28 PM EDT

[#17]

Outstanding!

Posted: 12/5/2014 8:17:23 PM EDT

[#18]

Your post on HKPro offered more details about the build. All I can say is wow you & Ghillie put forth some effort on this one, well done.
I'm confused about the receiver tho what did you start with? If you're still looking for a 16" MKE barrel give me a shout.

Posted: 12/5/2014 8:33:20 PM EDT

[#19]

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Your post on HKPro offered more details about the build. All I can say is wow you & Ghillie put forth some effort on this one, well done.
I'm confused about the receiver tho what did you start with? If you're still looking for a 16" MKE barrel give me a shout.

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Yea, I try to keep the audience in mind when I am making posts. I figured the people over at HKpro would be far more interested in the nitty gritty of the build than the people of AR15. The receiver was/is just a normal LSC MP5 flat, Ghillie did the bending.

Posted: 12/5/2014 9:17:36 PM EDT

[#20]

Maybe well worth emailing or posting a pic on H&K USA's facebook. They wont make or import them, but nice to show off your piece.

Nicely done and has a great look to it!

Posted: 12/6/2014 9:41:26 AM EDT

[#21]

The wood on that guns looks awesome I always like the Retro look, we had Vector builds a similar format rifle for us with black poly , The wood looks much nicer though.

Posted: 12/6/2014 10:01:21 AM EDT

[#22]

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The wood on that guns looks awesome I always like the Retro look, we had Vector builds a similar format rifle for us with black poly , The wood looks much nicer though.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/v94l.jpg
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/v94l3.jpg

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Have or had? Very interested.

Posted: 12/6/2014 10:06:48 AM EDT

[#23]

I always really liked the way the 53 looked.

Not a fan of the old school HK wood, but i can appreciate it.

Posted: 12/6/2014 2:42:39 PM EDT

[#24]

bgenlvtex We still offer the Vector Arms 94L rifles , it is a sweet shooter & has a slightly Heavier profile barrel that increases the accuracy .

Posted: 12/6/2014 3:43:40 PM EDT

[#25]

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bgenlvtex We still offer the Vector Arms 94L rifles , it is a sweet shooter & has a slightly Heavier profile barrel that increases the accuracy .

http://youtu.be/P2gUHoe8OUs

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I wouldn't think that a heavy profile barrel would really be the best design choice for a 9mm carbine.

One of the benefits of the roller locked 9mms is that they're lighter than blowback rifles due to the required weight of the blowback bolts, the heavy barrel negates that advantage.

Posted: 12/6/2014 5:02:04 PM EDT

[#26]

Ok, it's range report time. I did screw up and brought more ammunition than targets, so yea.....

Firing in progress pic

90 rounds, 25 yards, standing, rapid fire.

My crap attempt at Kentucky wind age
90 rounds, 25 yards, standing, rapid fire.

So after 300 rounds, I can honestly say that it is an insanely fun rifle, I let two other guys fire it as well, they both had the shit eating grin.

As with anything I found a few things I will have to get sorted out.

1. Need to replace the trigger return spring, the one in there came out of an old G3 kit... so yeaaaaa

2. I will need either more MP5 mags, or a mag loader, likely both after loading 300 round in an hour... my thumbs are sore

3. I need to find my sight tool, it's around here somewhere....

4. Will need an imperial shit ton of 9mm ammo. This rifle eats it like a nothing I have seen.

5. I need to get it a proper case, if anyone has any suggestions for something let me know. It's 36" long

Posted: 12/8/2014 12:56:54 AM EDT

[#27]

Don't forget a sling......leather maybe?

Posted: 12/9/2014 11:15:10 PM EDT

[#28]

Great looking rifle. Cool range too.

Posted: 12/10/2014 4:39:58 PM EDT

[#29]

Fantastic build. I want one!

Posted: 12/12/2014 6:18:34 PM EDT

[#30]

Off to HKPRO for the details.

Posted: 12/15/2014 5:21:25 AM EDT

[#31]

That is a great concept and beautiful execution, very nice. Now I have to add another one to the list :)

Posted: 12/15/2014 7:11:51 AM EDT

[#32]

Wow. That is beautiful...the straight mags make it look even sweeter...

Posted: 12/21/2014 2:53:57 AM EDT

[#33]

wow talk about a nice HK

Posted: 12/21/2014 3:59:25 AM EDT

[#34]

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5. I need to get it a proper case, if anyone has any suggestions for something let me know. It's 36" long

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Happened to notice, PSA has a 36" case on their sale pages right now.

Posted: 1/2/2015 7:09:39 PM EDT

[#35]

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The wood on that guns looks awesome I always like the Retro look, we had Vector builds a similar format rifle for us with black poly , The wood looks much nicer though.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/v94l.jpg
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/v94l3.jpg

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Could wood furniture be used on these?

Posted: 1/3/2015 1:50:31 PM EDT

[#36]

Yes, however you will have to modify the hand guard to fit a 93 length, change the mounting plate on the butt stock to a one hole variant, and swap the lower for a steel one.

Posted: 1/14/2015 9:26:17 PM EDT

[#37]

I would own that! Very Nice!

Posted: 1/20/2015 12:26:46 AM EDT

[#38]

I want that Vector Arms 94L!

Posted: 1/23/2015 8:50:42 PM EDT

[#39]

I can join this party also.

Posted: 1/23/2015 10:04:31 PM EDT

[#40]

Very nice! Details?

Posted: 1/23/2015 11:27:14 PM EDT

[#41]

Made by Dakota Tactical.

Mint HK94 barrel and sight tree.

LSC flat.

BCG is RCM

IT Just works period end of story.

The only problem I have ever had was a weak trigger spring. It wouldn't reset. Replaced and never looked back.

Posted: 1/26/2015 4:32:16 PM EDT

[#42]

I want one.

OP:

I'd be really interested in seeing some accuracy groups fired. Say, 5 shot groups, 5 groups at 50 meters would really be interesting.

I've always been curious about something like this and you have really done a topnotch job with yours!

I had a Marlin Camp Gun once upon a time................

Who says there is no such thing as purgatory!!!

LOL.

Posted: 1/26/2015 5:15:43 PM EDT

[#43]

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I want one.

OP:

I'd be really interested in seeing some accuracy groups fired. Say, 5 shot groups, 5 groups at 50 meters would really be interesting.

I've always been curious about something like this and you have really done a topnotch job with yours!

I had a Marlin Camp Gun once upon a time................

Who says there is no such thing as purgatory!!!

LOL.

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I would love to give you some more accuracy type groups, however I am currently limited to a 25 meter range, and I pretty much have to do standing position on that. Now, while I am very proud of this rifle it does have some issues that I am not pleased with, mostly they where due to the way the build process happened where we kept layering machining operations on to it without a properly thought out plan. Now I am building a second one that should be completed in the next few months or so, which will be built slightly differently and should not have the same problems.

Posted: 1/28/2015 2:35:05 PM EDT

[#44]

Love the wood and the straight mags. I want one!

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