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Posted: 2/26/2014 9:28:23 PM EDT
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DS prefix means the reciever was mfg'd out of house with LMT
newer DSA prefix serial numbers are in house DSA made. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 4:37:53 AM EDT
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They bought all the Steyr parts in inventory. They used these in the early rifles
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Posted: 2/27/2014 9:36:37 AM EDT
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DS prefix means the reciever was mfg'd out of house with LMT newer DSA prefix serial numbers are in house DSA made. Jake, I have three FALs all with DSA receivers. Two are DS27XXX and one is DS37XXX. Were all three receivers built by LMT? Keith |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 9:08:32 PM EDT
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Jake, I have three FALs all with DSA receivers. Two are DS27XXX and one is DS37XXX. Were all three receivers built by LMT? Keith Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DS prefix means the reciever was mfg'd out of house with LMT newer DSA prefix serial numbers are in house DSA made. Jake, I have three FALs all with DSA receivers. Two are DS27XXX and one is DS37XXX. Were all three receivers built by LMT? Keith Yes Non LMT receivers start with "DSAXXXXX" as Jake mentioned above. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 9:09:42 PM EDT
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As the title states, I have an early DSA SA58 Ser # DS1XXXX ! Did these start out as a STG58 Kit with LMT upper or a complete Manufacture from barrel to stock by DSA? The only way to know for sure if DSA built it is to call them and ask. If you decide to sell it - let me know. |
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Posted: 3/2/2014 10:46:45 AM EDT
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As the title states, I have an early DSA SA58 Ser # DS1XXXX ! Did these start out as a STG58 Kit with LMT upper or a complete Manufacture from barrel to stock by DSA? Need more information. DS1XXXX only says that your receiver is a Type I Grayslake marked. The ranges up to 13000 change. Very early 10000 ranges have some Argy barrels, some carbines, some 21's. Other ranges used NOS Steyr StLf3 barrels, some are kit guns, some are SA58's with alloy lowers, some have scrubbed FN lowers. All will likely have a soldered 3 port muzzle brake. Generally the BC groups were NOS Steyr or FN. Some have ALL plastic handguards, some used NOS steel Steyr. All depends on range, custom order, off the shelf etc... Asking DSA will only help a little...recently they gave me some obviously wrong information on an early build. All the people that knew what was on those early guns are looooong gone. Post pictures, I can "usually" spot a factory gun. |
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Posted: 3/2/2014 8:41:20 PM EDT
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As the title states, I have an early DSA SA58 Ser # DS1XXXX ! Did these start out as a STG58 Kit with LMT upper or a complete Manufacture from barrel to stock by DSA? DSA SA58 Ser # DS15XXX! Must have an LMT receiver! Also no ser # at all on Bolt or Bolt carrier 
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Posted: 3/2/2014 8:48:30 PM EDT
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DSA SA58 Ser # DS15XXX! Must have an LMT receiver! Also no ser # at all on Bolt or Bolt carrier http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130921_113010.jpg.html http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130921_112822.jpg.html http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130919_133916.jpg.html http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130919_133921.jpg.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As the title states, I have an early DSA SA58 Ser # DS1XXXX ! Did these start out as a STG58 Kit with LMT upper or a complete Manufacture from barrel to stock by DSA? DSA SA58 Ser # DS15XXX! Must have an LMT receiver! Also no ser # at all on Bolt or Bolt carrier http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130921_113010.jpg.html http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130921_112822.jpg.html http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130919_133916.jpg.html http://s243.photobucket.com/user/Sircas/media/20130919_133921.jpg.html That looks like a factory built DSA rifle to me. I would bet the muzzle brake is silver soldered on. You should be able to see the solder around the rear of the brake if it is. Nice rifle! |
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Posted: 3/2/2014 8:58:31 PM EDT
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Gun isn't as early as I suspected. It's a type I CHC Barrington marked SA58. Alloy lower, soldered 3 prt brake, Steyr hand guards, Steyr lock lever, Steyr stock, DSA semi selector, DSA alloy cocking handle, Steyr gas plug. Barrel is an unknown....must remove hand guards to see markings.... Could be Steyr, Argy or a US Badger....my guess is Badger. BC group will likely be either FN or Steyr. Look at proofs...# inside oval = Steyr....Letter with * and/# in small box= FN.
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Posted: 3/2/2014 9:00:57 PM EDT
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Also....pivot pin is Steyr.
Lastly, is that an inch magazine stuffed in there???? Look weird on my Iphone. |
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Posted: 3/2/2014 9:51:10 PM EDT
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Also....pivot pin is Steyr. Lastly, is that an inch magazine stuffed in there???? Look weird on my Iphone. It's Metric |
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Posted: 3/2/2014 9:54:30 PM EDT
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Gun isn't as early as I suspected. It's a type I CHC Barrington marked SA58. Alloy lower, soldered 3 prt brake, Steyr hand guards, Steyr lock lever, Steyr stock, DSA semi selector, DSA alloy cocking handle, Steyr gas plug. Barrel is an unknown....must remove hand guards to see markings.... Could be Steyr, Argy or a US Badger....my guess is Badger. BC group will likely be either FN or Steyr. Look at proofs...# inside oval = Steyr....Letter with * and/# in small box= FN. No markings on the Bolt or Carriers can be found! |
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Posted: 3/3/2014 3:36:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally PMN aosted By nwobhm:
Gun isn't as early as I suspected. It's a type I CHC Barrington marked SA58. Alloy lower, soldered 3 prt brake, Steyr hand guards, Steyr lock lever, Steyr stock, DSA semi selector, DSA alloy cocking handle, Steyr gas plug. Barrel is an unknown....must remove hand guards to see markings.... Could be Steyr, Argy or a US Badger....my guess is Badger. BC group will likely be either FN or Steyr. Look at proofs...# inside oval = Steyr....Letter with * and/# in small box= FN. Very small barely noticeable! Bolt = oval with # 8 Carrier = oval with # 16 Steyr metal hand guards Barrel has no visible marking |
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Posted: 3/3/2014 5:15:25 PM EDT
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Bolt & Carrier were NOS Steyr. Unmarked barrel from that era would be a US made Badger.
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Posted: 3/3/2014 6:46:02 PM EDT
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Thanks nwobhm for the info!
I love the look & function of this DSA fal. I believe I got the best of both worlds: Kit = Original Steyr parts (Stock, Hand guards, Locking, etc - looks to be new) New Parts = LMT Upper Receiver, Alloy Lower & New Barrel) She is a keeper! |
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Posted: 3/6/2014 4:28:59 PM EDT
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Here's the one I bought new in the late 90's. What can you tell me about it? I'm no FAL expert. These posts of "LMT" made receivers is all new to me. S/N is DS 120xx.
By the way, what was the name of this DS Arms post-ban 3 port brake during the Clinton ban? It had a name, I forgot. Used to be in Shotgun News ads all the time. THANKS 
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Posted: 3/6/2014 4:34:40 PM EDT
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It just has standard lettering, not the stylized logo like the OP's photo.
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Posted: 3/6/2014 6:30:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/6/2014 7:27:13 PM EDT
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Kisara, Congratulations! You have the holy grail of DSA kit guns. Early LMT manufactured DSA Grayslake marked type I receiver with NOS Steyr StLf3 marked barrel and Steyr BC group. It does not get better than this in the metric kit gun world.
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Posted: 3/6/2014 7:31:44 PM EDT
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Go search my posts on the Falfiles and find my tutorial on removing the DSA brakes. Very easy with a pipe cutter, screw driver and Dremel. No heat needed. You have an outstanding rifle there....NEVER screw around with that barrel.....it is extremely rare in NOS form in the US not to mention very valuable.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:58:24 PM EDT
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Go search my posts on the Falfiles and find my tutorial on removing the DSA brakes. Very easy with a pipe cutter, screw driver and Dremel. No heat needed. You have an outstanding rifle there....NEVER screw around with that barrel.....it is extremely rare in NOS form in the US not to mention very valuable. Do you have pics you can post over here? |
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Posted: 3/8/2014 7:37:52 PM EDT
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Sigh.....found it.....unfortunately the site crashed not long ago and all the pictures were deleted....sigh.....looks like the StG is active.
SA58: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359810&highlight=Debanning StG58: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367195&highlight=Brake |
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Posted: 3/18/2014 9:40:55 AM EDT
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I had a DS10xxx Grayslake factory built 21" FAL years ago.
It came from the factory thusly (IIRC): Type I CHC Receiver 21" Non-Bipod Cut (Chrome Lined / No Markings) Barrel Three Port Cylindrical Brake STEEL Lower (Non-Serialized) The selector failed years later, and DSA overnighted a replacement. This was a "lifetime warranty" gun in spite of having a steel lower. DSA told me it was "NOS" parts and therefore covered under their "New Parts Gun / Lifetime" policy. It was one of my favorite DSA rifles ever. However, that brake was an ear ringer! ETA: I don't remember any part having a marking other than the Upper. Its been a long time though... |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 12:18:25 AM EDT
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I had a DS10xxx Grayslake factory built 21" FAL years ago. It came from the factory thusly (IIRC): It was one of my favorite DSA rifles ever. However, that brake was an ear ringer! Yes, it was pretty loud. Anyone nearby at the range hated being near me, and it just reminded me of something I totally forgot. I was shooting another rifle when some kid took the lane to the left of me and started sending AR15 brass flying into me. After his 3rd magazine of rapid fire, I got the SA58 out of my car's trunk and loaded up one mag. One mag was all it took to send him packing... 
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Posted: 4/2/2014 4:56:38 PM EDT
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Yes, it was pretty loud. Anyone nearby at the range hated being near me, and it just reminded me of something I totally forgot. I was shooting another rifle when some kid took the lane to the left of me and started sending AR15 brass flying into me. After his 3rd magazine of rapid fire, I got the SA58 out of my car's trunk and loaded up one mag. One mag was all it took to send him packing... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a DS10xxx Grayslake factory built 21" FAL years ago. It came from the factory thusly (IIRC): It was one of my favorite DSA rifles ever. However, that brake was an ear ringer! Yes, it was pretty loud. Anyone nearby at the range hated being near me, and it just reminded me of something I totally forgot. I was shooting another rifle when some kid took the lane to the left of me and started sending AR15 brass flying into me. After his 3rd magazine of rapid fire, I got the SA58 out of my car's trunk and loaded up one mag. One mag was all it took to send him packing... I had an Egyptian Hakim (8mm semi-auto derivative of the Ljungman). Anyway, that rifle was PAINFULLY  loud. It went to the range with me to drive people away. It was sold years ago, but now that I have a SCAR (with PWS's sound ENHANCER screwed on the end of the barrel) it does the same job.
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