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Link Posted: 1/12/2021 10:53:50 AM EDT
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Excellent thanks buddy!
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 2:24:01 PM EDT
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Anyone on the EM Carbine suppressor?

It’d be good to know because I probably need to adjust my insurance a bit.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 4:07:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Maglan:
Anyone on the EM Carbine suppressor?

It’d be good to know because I probably need to adjust my insurance a bit.
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Haven't seen one in years.  I'd go with replacement cost of a new KAC 7.62 can as a fair value.  Items like that which are difficult to find and get a good fair market value on will be difficult to file a claim against if anything happens.  They'll see it is discontinued and price the current replacement model.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 7:08:13 PM EDT
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Haven't seen one in years.  I'd go with replacement cost of a new KAC 7.62 can as a fair value.  Items like that which are difficult to find and get a good fair market value on will be difficult to file a claim against if anything happens.  They'll see it is discontinued and price the current replacement model.
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Originally Posted By Maglan:
Anyone on the EM Carbine suppressor?

It’d be good to know because I probably need to adjust my insurance a bit.



Haven't seen one in years.  I'd go with replacement cost of a new KAC 7.62 can as a fair value.  Items like that which are difficult to find and get a good fair market value on will be difficult to file a claim against if anything happens.  They'll see it is discontinued and price the current replacement model.


Good point however I'd think that if you found an auction where one sold you could use that as a basis for value or somehow get a third party appraisal.  People do it with rare watches and jewelry all the time.  Hell, I have an old 23' Mako boat that was professionally restored to better than new condition and blue book value is probably worthless, however the insurance company went with what I paid as replacement value so I don't necessarily see why firearms would be different?

Cheers
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 7:11:23 PM EDT
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There was one on Gunbroker within the last 6 months or so.  I didn’t save it and cannot remember exactly where it landed, but I want to say it was around $4300.  Perhaps someone saved it and can reference it for you.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 1:42:09 AM EDT
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What would an SR25 lower go for right now?
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 2:26:02 AM EDT
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How about an SR25 APC MLOK
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 11:58:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/13/2021 12:01:52 PM EDT
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“M4 Sniper” marked FF RAS?
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 12:32:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j-dubya1:
“M4 Sniper” marked FF RAS?
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That is super rare. Not many made it out with those markings. No idea on value though, probably $1k+ to the right buyer.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 1:46:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By batfurbabies02:


That is super rare. Not many made it out with those markings. No idea on value though, probably $1k+ to the right buyer.
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Yep.  Only 18-20.

Link Posted: 1/13/2021 2:27:00 PM EDT
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wow
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 2:36:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j-dubya1:


Yep.  Only 18-20.

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Were they parts or mostly complete/uppers?
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 2:55:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By batfurbabies02:


Were they parts or mostly complete/uppers?
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Originally Posted By batfurbabies02:
Originally Posted By j-dubya1:


Yep.  Only 18-20.



Were they parts or mostly complete/uppers?


They were on some of the SR-15 Match Rifles.  Some Match rifles came with long URX2 rails.

Cheers
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 3:34:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By batfurbabies02:


Were they parts or mostly complete/uppers?
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It’s my understanding that they all came on complete Match rifles.  After some political correct-issues with the wording, the text was changed to M4 Match.  Like Buddyhoohaw said, those same Match rifles from the time period also came with the original URX rifle length rails without integrated front sight. Both rails I’d love to get my hands on.

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Link Posted: 1/13/2021 3:58:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j-dubya1:


It’s my understanding that they all came on complete Match rifles.  After some political correct-issues with the wording, the text was changed to M4 Match.  Like Buddyhoohaw said, those same Match rifles from the time period also came with the original URX rifle length rails without integrated front sight. Both rails I’d love to get my hands on.

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It was my understanding as well, I don't ever recall these made it out as stand-alone parts. Thanks for confirming

@Buddyhoohaw
@j-dubya1
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 5:54:39 PM EDT
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SR-15 Match w/ URX2



Cheers
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 6:27:56 PM EDT
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That trigger guard...
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:23:15 AM EDT
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SR-15 E3 Mod 2 11.5" SBR (PN: 31952)...NIB
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 12:11:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By batfurbabies02:


That trigger guard...
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Originally Posted By batfurbabies02:


That trigger guard...

That whole gun

Lord help me if I come across a stand-alone rifle URX2 w/o the front sight.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 1:20:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4ger:

That whole gun

Lord help me if I come across a stand-alone rifle URX2 w/o the front sight.
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Yes, it's beautiful.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 7:25:29 PM EDT
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ECR with m110 suppressor? maybe 100rds down the tube.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 7:37:24 PM EDT
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Every thing is up but kac stuff is selling quickly at these prices.

I have an extra complete chrome bcg I'm wondering what it would go for. I'd love a kac lower myself but even if I found one they are double or more right now.

I seen a 14.5 upper go for $2500 and others we're in line. I can't imagine the rare stuff.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 7:43:22 PM EDT
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I have a QD cup lower I’m thinking about purging.....

I’m seeing standard ambi lowers going for 1400-1500 so yeah, curious about this.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:16:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
I have a QD cup lower I’m thinking about purging.....

I’m seeing standard ambi lowers going for 1400-1500 so yeah, curious about this.
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Those are actually going down in price I'm seeing. I'd cut your losses and sell it to me. Let's say $750?

Seriously though what is the difference in that and the ambi if you don't mind me asking?
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:21:12 PM EDT
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I think there are people out there that would pay $350-400 for cutter, $1400-1500 for an ambi.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:23:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jkitchen:

Those are actually going down in price I'm seeing. I'd cut your losses and sell it to me. Let's say $750?

Seriously though what is the difference in that and the ambi if you don't mind me asking?
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To me?  Jack shit.  I see lots of people get wound up over the ambi lowers with QD cups though
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:25:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jkitchen:
Every thing is up but kac stuff is selling quickly at these prices.

I have an extra complete chrome bcg I'm wondering what it would go for. I'd love a kac lower myself but even if I found one they are double or more right now.

I seen a 14.5 upper go for $2500 and others we're in line. I can't imagine the rare stuff.
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There's one on GB right now that's bid up to $1325 with two days left. It's Sandcutter and chrome bolt only with no small parts. Keep an eye on it and see where it goes.

Originally Posted By Marksman14:
I have a QD cup lower I’m thinking about purging.....

I’m seeing standard ambi lowers going for 1400-1500 so yeah, curious about this.
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Also one on GB right now with an asking price of $2k.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:27:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 871JZ:


There's one on GB right now that's bid up to $1325 with two days left. Keep an eye on it and see where it goes.



Also one on GB right now with an asking price of $2k.
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Interesting.  

I saw an ambi listed here and sell at 1400. Of course who knows what it actually went for but it got me thinking whether or not the cups actually hold more value.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:29:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:


Interesting.  

I saw an ambi listed here and sell at 1400. Of course who knows what it actually went for but it got me thinking whether or not the cups actually hold more value.
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I saw a couple QD cup lowers go for $1250-1500 recently, but that was a month or two ago. They may fetch more now or bring about the same as a standard ambi lower. Guys are paying twice MSRP on those ATM. I think it's mostly new guys who are scared they won't be able to get one in the future if they don't buy now.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:33:32 PM EDT
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What about SR25 ambi lowers? Have any sold? There’s one on GB for $3200 or something crazy, but nobody has bought it.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 9:19:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Illymost:
What about SR25 ambi lowers? Have any sold? There’s one on GB for $3200 or something crazy, but nobody has bought it.
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I’ve seen a handful sell over the past few months. Nothing over $3000. I’d venture a guess $2200-2500 right now.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 9:24:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 871JZ:


I saw a couple QD cup lowers go for $1250-1500 recently, but that was a month or two ago. They may fetch more now or bring about the same as a standard ambi lower. Guys are paying twice MSRP on those ATM. I think it's mostly new guys who are scared they won't be able to get one in the future if they don't buy now.
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With kac stuff I wouldn't blame them lol

So many things I regret not buying that I thought someone was crazy for paying a certain amount.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 9:50:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jkitchen:

With kac stuff I wouldn't blame them lol

So many things I regret not buying that I thought someone was crazy for paying a certain amount.
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Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Hindsight is always 20-20.

Cheers
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:12:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:


Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Hindsight is always 20-20.

Cheers
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Absolutely

I know better now though
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:22:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:


Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Hindsight is always 20-20.

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That’s the damn truth. I’ve slept on fairly priced rare KAC stuff in the back and almost always regretted passing.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 8:22:11 AM EDT
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Highest I have seen a SR-15 sell for .Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 11:08:41 AM EDT
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Maybe not KAC made, but definitely KAC related. No idea who made them. I've heard KAC didn't make them, then others say that KAC did. I talked to BE Meyers a few years ago who said they didn't make them, but then again I've heard that they did. Someone made them at some point for some reason.

Then there's the "don't shoot these with an NT4 attached or your family will die in a terrible boating accident". It's too much. I remember dealing with a couple of these years ago, and I recall an NT4 being shot on one, without ill effect. But, I'd appreciate someone from KAC chiming in. @Jack_L @SxPxDx

Please share what you know and an approximate value for one of these things.

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 12:40:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Maglan:
Maybe not KAC made, but definitely KAC related. No idea who made them. I've heard KAC didn't make them, then others say that KAC did. I talked to BE Meyers a few years ago who said they didn't make them, but then again I've heard that they did. Someone made them at some point for some reason.

Then there's the "don't shoot these with an NT4 attached or your family will die in a terrible boating accident". It's too much. I remember dealing with a couple of these years ago, and I recall an NT4 being shot on one, without ill effect. But, I'd appreciate someone from KAC chiming in. @Jack_L @SxPxDx

Please share what you know and an approximate value for one of these things.

https://i.imgur.com/6DnK9ud.jpg
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@TNVC_Augee may know something about these. One of Arfcoms resident historians.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 1:43:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Illymost:
What about SR25 ambi lowers? Have any sold? There’s one on GB for $3200 or something crazy, but nobody has bought it.
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@Illymost One was just listed in the EE. Watch for a reference  -

https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/WTS-KAC-Knight-s-Armament-SR25-complete-ambi-lower/120-2093272/
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 1:56:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MaicoBill:
Highest I have seen a SR-15 sell for .https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523255/379E7228-AE4C-4E1E-90E0-686641E67D31_png-1784743.JPG
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But did the winner pay?
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:24:31 PM EDT
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@Illymost One was just listed in the EE. Watch for a reference  -

https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/WTS-KAC-Knight-s-Armament-SR25-complete-ambi-lower/120-2093272/
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Wow, went fast. I feel pretty good about my acquisition although I’m not selling it. Ha.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 6:34:20 PM EDT
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But did the winner pay?
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Originally Posted By MaicoBill:
Highest I have seen a SR-15 sell for .https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523255/379E7228-AE4C-4E1E-90E0-686641E67D31_png-1784743.JPG

But did the winner pay?

$5150.00
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 9:29:06 PM EDT
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Time to start a new long-term project: a very unusual SAM-R.

What’s the going rates for -

6” rail riser
Rifle length URX1 (no front sight)

FSGB’s still around $1500?
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 12:26:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MaicoBill:

$5150.00
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I can see what the winner's supposed to pay. Did they is the question.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 2:09:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By YeOldeCircles:

I can see what the winner's supposed to pay. Did they is the question.
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It took at least two bidders willing to pay over $5k for it, meaning the market is that high for these. I’m sure if the sale falls through the seller will relist.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 8:32:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By YeOldeCircles:

I can see what the winner's supposed to pay. Did they is the question.
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Why wouldn't they?
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 8:58:11 AM EDT
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What’s the value ?
Approximately 100 rounds thru it .Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 2:06:13 PM EDT
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Why wouldn't they?
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To drive market upwards? Not really sure, but I have reports of it from FFL contacts, folks on other forums, etc.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 4:08:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By YeOldeCircles:

To drive market upwards? Not really sure, but I have reports of it from FFL contacts, folks on other forums, etc.
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That’s a whole lot of money in GB fees to drive costs up on such a rare item. No reason why a more rare SR15 wouldn’t  fetch something like that given all of the other manufacturers are pulling in a premium. Even at that price, it’s still cheap relative to ammo prices, and other premium brands.

This is what happens in free markets when there is a huge threat to supply with the upcoming administration.
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