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Posted: 1/20/2017 10:45:08 AM EDT
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No special paperwork. No adding the upper to the trust. Go nuts, buy as many uppers as you like. Just don't put them on anything other than the SBR or a pistol build.
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Posted: 1/20/2017 10:48:56 AM EDT
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No special paperwork. No adding the upper to the trust. Go nuts, buy as many uppers as you like. Just don't put them on anything other than the SBR or a pistol build. This is what I thought, I wanted to make sure since most websites online made me assume you need to apply to purchase it just like any other NFA item. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 10:50:19 AM EDT
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Completely bogus info...BW |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 10:54:49 AM EDT
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One caveat.... Don't put an upper on with a barrel length shorter than what was filed on the Form 1. Longer ok, shorter bad. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 11:23:23 AM EDT
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This is false. The law does not care how short your SBR is, it only cares whether you have one or not. Yeah that's confusing. I will look at my stamp to see, but I dont' recall if it shows the length of the barrel. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 11:43:57 AM EDT
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I'm sure this has been asked, but I've looked and can't find a thread. I already have my stamp for my SBR, but I want to purchase different uppers for them. I know that the lower is what is registered as the SBR, but all the uppers I see online say "All NFA Rules Apply". What exactly does that mean? Can I buy a 10" upper without any special paperwork? Or does it have to be added to my trust just to buy the upper? The "All NFA Rules Apply" is simply a disclaimer to put the responsibility on you to be legal...use the upper on a registered lower or pistol-configured lower. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 11:44:51 AM EDT
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Yeah that's confusing. I will look at my stamp to see, but I dont' recall if it shows the length of the barrel. Your form has a barrel length and overall length. That's simply the initial configuration for the firearm you made. How it's configured afterwards doesn't matter. |
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Posted: 1/20/2017 11:45:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:02:22 PM EDT
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You can have multiple short barreled uppers for your registered SBR lower. However legally you need to maintain the upper with the registered configuration (caliber and barrel length). As long as you still posses and can switch back to that configuration you can "temporarily" change to different uppers (calibers and barrel lengths).
"All NFA rules apply" is just CYA by the retailer to make sure people understand this is a short barrel or short barreled upper and if installed on a rifle lower it needs to be NFA registered. To purchase and own the SBR uppers no extra paperwork or trust changes. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:18:19 PM EDT
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Thanks for the clarification everyone.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:16:11 PM EDT
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You can have multiple short barreled uppers for your registered SBR lower. However legally you need to maintain the upper with the registered configuration (caliber and barrel length). As long as you still posses and can switch back to that configuration you can "temporarily" change to different uppers (calibers and barrel lengths). |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 7:01:22 PM EDT
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You can have multiple short barreled uppers for your registered SBR lower. However legally you need to maintain the upper with the registered configuration (caliber and barrel length). As long as you still posses and can switch back to that configuration you can "temporarily" change to different uppers (calibers and barrel lengths). "All NFA rules apply" is just CYA by the retailer to make sure people understand this is a short barrel or short barreled upper and if installed on a rifle lower it needs to be NFA registered. To purchase and own the SBR uppers no extra paperwork or trust changes. False. |
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Posted: 1/28/2017 8:49:57 AM EDT
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An SBR is a SBR... Period
The barrel length you list on your F1 is the length the SBR was originally configured. The BATFE only request that permanent changes be notified in writing, but is not required by law. |
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Posted: 1/28/2017 7:11:27 PM EDT
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This is not accurate. There is no legal requirement to maintain or possess the original configuration. Even permanent changes are acceptable, without ever notifying BATFE, and they don't consider any upper changes to ARs to be "permanent," since they're so modular. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can have multiple short barreled uppers for your registered SBR lower. However legally you need to maintain the upper with the registered configuration (caliber and barrel length). As long as you still posses and can switch back to that configuration you can "temporarily" change to different uppers (calibers and barrel lengths). That is really good to know. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 12:22:57 AM EDT
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Your form has a barrel length and overall length. That's simply the initial configuration for the firearm you made. How it's configured afterwards doesn't matter. The only way we can really know for sure is to write a letter. 
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:43:42 PM EDT
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The only way we can really know for sure is to write a letter. LOL. |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:05:01 AM EDT
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This is not accurate. There is no legal requirement to maintain or possess the original configuration. Even permanent changes are acceptable, without ever notifying BATFE, and they don't consider any upper changes to ARs to be "permanent," since they're so modular. I was not aware of this. I'm pretty happy that I it was cleared up, thanks. |
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