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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:06:23 PM EDT
I just watched a video from Iraq Veteran 8888 about a 22LR SBR, in the video he said that he throw the upper on a SBRed lower he had. My question is this: when you fill out the paper work for a SBR you have to tell them the the cal. The 5.56 SBR I have, I filled it out that the cal was 5.56. I'm about to send out paper work work for a 22LR SBR and on that I stated the cal. is 22LR. Do I not need to put 22 LR as 22 LR and 5.56 are pretty much the same cal.? It would be nice to have the option to run 5.56 or 22LR on the same lower LEGALY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyxHvts2vTE |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:24:25 PM EDT
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A firearm can only be one caliber. You're filing a form to make a firearm, and need to provide that caliber (22 in your case). Then, once you've made that firearm, you can can configure it to whatever caliber and length you choose.
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:32:07 PM EDT
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So essentially if I fill out my paperwork to have a 10.5 inch 5.56 barreled AR and I stick a 4.5 inch 22lr barrel on it, said gun would be legal? Not saying I don't believe you just clarifying so I don't go to prison
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:37:06 PM EDT
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ATF tech branch already addressed that issue, someone will probably come along and post the letter.
in a nutshell, you have to put in the caliber, barrel length etc... of the firearm you are "making", ie. 5.56, 10 inch etc,,, but can switch out the upper to a different caliber and barrel length temporary to something else. but it has to be configured back to what the form says when you're done if you want to do a permanent change to the length and caliber, then you would have to notify NFA of that change by mail. so they can update the registry |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:43:38 PM EDT
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Cool. Still going to file for the 22lr dedicated 4.5 inch barrel but that is good to know. Just don't tell my wife!!!
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:48:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
ATF tech branch already addressed that issue, someone will probably come along and post the letter. in a nutshell, you have to put in the caliber, barrel length etc... of the firearm you are "making", ie. 5.56, 10 inch etc,,, but can switch out the upper to a different caliber and barrel length temporary to something else. but it has to be configured back to what the form says when you're done if you want to do a permanent change to the length and caliber, then you would have to notify NFA of that change by mail. so they can update the registry Form1 is how you built it. Change it to whatever caliber and length you want. They REQUEST you notify them of permanent changes. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:58:44 PM EDT
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Stag_8_24, just notice that your location says NJ. if that is correct , then you can't own a SBR in that state. unless the law was drastically changed that I am not aware of
https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2008/10/new-jersey-nj-what-nfa-firearm.html |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 2:17:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
in a nutshell, you have to put in the caliber, barrel length etc... of the firearm you are "making", ie. 5.56, 10 inch etc,,, but can switch out the upper to a different caliber and barrel length temporary to something else. but it has to be configured back to what the form says when you're done if you want to do a permanent change to the length and caliber, then you would have to notify NFA of that change by mail. so they can update the registry Neither of the items in green are true. |
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Posted: 11/18/2016 4:05:20 PM EDT
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Moved to America 4 years ago just never change my settings.
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Posted: 11/19/2016 4:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither of the items in green are true. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: in a nutshell, you have to put in the caliber, barrel length etc... of the firearm you are "making", ie. 5.56, 10 inch etc,,, but can switch out the upper to a different caliber and barrel length temporary to something else. but it has to be configured back to what the form says when you're done if you want to do a permanent change to the length and caliber, then you would have to notify NFA of that change by mail. so they can update the registry Neither of the items in green are true. That's what I was thinking. I have a lower that was registered as 556 with a 7.5 barrel. I ended up never building a 7.5 upper instead I built a 12.5. Sold the 12.5, now the lower sits in the safe. I'm going to be making it a 5.5 9mm for xmas. It'll be interesting when I send in some 5320.20's and claim the sbr as a 9mm with a 5.5 barrel. We will see if they kick it back or not. |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 4:32:20 PM EDT
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That's what I was thinking. I have a lower that was registered as 556 with a 7.5 barrel. I ended up never building a 7.5 upper instead I built a 12.5. Sold the 12.5, now the lower sits in the safe. I'm going to be making it a 5.5 9mm for xmas. It'll be interesting when I send in some 5320.20's and claim the sbr as a 9mm with a 5.5 barrel. We will see if they kick it back or not. It will be interesting to follow... I have approved 5320.20 forms for SBRs with different calibers and lengths. But, I've also seen people report them getting kicked back. The ATF has clearly stated it's OK to swap uppers. If I wanted to take it across state lines to hunt with a different caliber, I should file using the configuration it will travel in, so it makes no sense when they're kicked back. |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 5:35:23 PM EDT
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After thinking about it, I may just include a letter stating the change from 556 7.5" to 9mm 5.5" with the 5320.20. Seems like that would kill 2 birds with one stone.
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Posted: 11/25/2016 7:44:28 PM EDT
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BTW.
5.56mm is metric for .22 caliber. A .223 and a .22 are the same caliber. |
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Posted: 11/28/2016 10:44:24 PM EDT
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I have quite a few Form 1s with multi calibers in the box. They used to allow multiple caliber designations and I would cram as many as possible in the box. Most of mine say ".22, 5.56, 6.8, .223 and 9mm". 300 BLK was not around then. They stopped that practice a few years ago.
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