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Posted: 2/29/2016 10:42:04 PM EDT
I'm going to build my first sbr. I've got a spikes lower I'll send in to Orion Engraving is southern MN. I'll be building it as an individual rather than on a trust. Where's the preferred location for engraving? I was thinking of the underside of the trigger area as its more discrete rather than having my name plastered on the side or front of the magwell. I suppose I could just color it in black too.
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Around the trigger hole. Above trigger pins. Side of magwell. Front of magwell.
I bet you could send it to NC and have it done faster, for less, and of equal or better quality. Just saying. |
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Quoted: Around the trigger hole. Above trigger pins. Side of magwell. Front of magwell. I bet you could send it to NC and have it done faster, for less, and of equal or better quality. Just saying. View Quote This right here. I like it above the trigger hole and Tar Heel State Firearms (who BW is referencing) does a great job. |
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Inside the trigger well. THSF all the way. Excellent service and engraving.
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I assume when it says barrel must be marked conspicuously, that it must be visible without removing the handguards? Not sure if my build will always be 9mm or if I'll want to swap it to 5.56 so not wanting to engrave the caliber on the receiver.
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Underside of the trigger area is best. You'll forget it's even there.
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I assume when it says barrel must be marked conspicuously, that it must be visible without removing the handguards? Not sure if my build will always be 9mm or if I'll want to swap it to 5.56 so not wanting to engrave the caliber on the receiver. View Quote The one time I've seen them put it in writing, it included: and "conspicuous" means that all required markings must be placed in such a manner as to be wholly unobstructed from plain view. These regulations apply to licensed manufacturers and licensed importers relative to firearms, armor piercing ammunition, and large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and to makers of National Firearms Act firearms. and... Similarly, firearms and large capacity ammunition feeding devices which contain required markings obstructed in whole or in part from plain view must be remarked with required markings that satisfy the conspicuousness requirements described above. For example, required markings may not be placed on a portion of the barrel where the markings would be wholly or partially obstructed from view by another part of the firearm, such as a flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The general agreement is that as long as it's visible without having to remove anything, you're good to go. |
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And FWIW...I happened to talk to Scott today. He said he's had a couple dozen forms get sent directly to customers in the last several weeks. I know I've seen that reported here several times recently, including somebody who go about a dozen or so forms (only one of which were actually his).
While we were talking, I mentioned he keeps getting good reviews about turnaround time. I told him I'd joked a couple times that of the mailman would make a second lap in his neighborhood, he might even be able to send some stuff back out the same day. He said he's had multiple occurrences of people sending stuff FedEx, and they usually come in the morning...and he's able to ship the items back out via USPS that afternoon. |
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I have done above the trigger/hammer pins on the left side. It looks good there and it was easy for my engraver.
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On my billet lowers...I put it on bottom of trigger guard. On my forged lowers I put it next to trigger hole.
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I kinda like seeing the engraving. I'm paying for it and it's my name on there, why be ashamed of it or try to hide it?
I get the "clone correct" aspect of some guns and some super high end billet lowers you may not want to mess up the general aesthetics and all but on a regular forged lower, I like seeing the engraving. YMMV Oh, and I'm getting in on THSF's giveaway fo sho this month |
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My preferred is inside the magwell but forged lowers will not allow it. If you are doing a spikes have them engrave it under the trigger guard. It's noticeable but kind of hidden. They will probably blacken it for you. I have not used Orion before. Most of my lowers were engraved by ident. I hate having it on the side of the magwell but some guys like it that way.
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I file as an indivdual, so my name is engraved on a registered AR lower, or upper as in case of my Sig P556 I SBR'ed
On my AR lowers I been engraving the inside lower lip on the mag well, as opposed to under the trigger opening. |
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What's the best way to ship it? never had a problem with a $6 flat rate box I know I'm required to notify them it's a firearm. I assume I need adult signature required? |
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What's the best way to ship it? never had a problem with a $6 flat rate box I know I'm required to notify them it's a firearm. I assume I need adult signature required? If it's a stripped lower are you required to tell them? |
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I'd have to pull it up on the atf website but it says something about required to tell the carrier of shipping a firearm.
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What's the best way to ship it? never had a problem with a $6 flat rate box I know I'm required to notify them it's a firearm. I assume I need adult signature required? If it's a stripped lower are you required to tell them? "What are you shipping?" "A lower receiver." "Uh...okay..." That's how that's always gone for me. I told them it's a receiver. They have no clue what that means. Their ignorance = not my problem. |
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I'm going the right side above the trigger pins. Thanks guys.
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I put mine on the right side above the trigger pins. http://s15.postimg.org/9b85z095n/20160305_121704.jpg View Quote Good trust name. I ususally do the same location. Have a lower that has less than normal engraving so I went around the trigger hole for this one. MAHA |
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Good trust name. I ususally do the same location. Have a lower that has less than normal engraving so I went around the trigger hole for this one. MAHA View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I put mine on the right side above the trigger pins. http://s15.postimg.org/9b85z095n/20160305_121704.jpg Good trust name. I ususally do the same location. Have a lower that has less than normal engraving so I went around the trigger hole for this one. MAHA I ALMOST named mine the Not Fade Away Trust. Wish i had |
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And FWIW...I happened to talk to Scott today. He said he's had a couple dozen forms get sent directly to customers in the last several weeks. I know I've seen that reported here several times recently, including somebody who go about a dozen or so forms (only one of which were actually his). While we were talking, I mentioned he keeps getting good reviews about turnaround time. I told him I'd joked a couple times that of the mailman would make a second lap in his neighborhood, he might even be able to send some stuff back out the same day. He said he's had multiple occurrences of people sending stuff FedEx, and they usually come in the morning...and he's able to ship the items back out via USPS that afternoon. View Quote Where is he located? I've got four lowers that need engraving. |
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Where is he located? I've got four lowers that need engraving. View Quote Matthews. Not far off where I-485 & US74 intersect. (And every one of those engravings purchased before 3/21 qualifies you for an entry for a free Octane 45...just have to pay for engravings by 3/21, and can redeem them within a year) |
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Matthews. Not far off where I-485 & US74 intersect. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Where is he located? I've got four lowers that need engraving. Matthews. Not far off where I-485 & US74 intersect. Ha, no kidding. I get on 485 off of 74 right there about once a week and head into Matthews at the first exit on 485 south. Had no idea that's where he was, thanks. |
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Ha, no kidding. I get on 485 off of 74 right there about once a week and head into Matthews at the first exit on 485 south. Had no idea that's where he was, thanks. View Quote His address is on the website, under Information. It shows as mailing address, as it's a home-based business...so definitely call instead of just swinging by. |
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Very good good info!!
Can somebody please post a photo of the engraving inside of the receiver's magazines well of an AR/M4 lower receiver? I'm just wondering how far/deep inside of the magazine well these markings go. Thanks!! |
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I've seen plenty of people do it, but it's a questionable enough location I'd never recommend it. With near the trigger hole or the front of the magwell as options, I just see no reason to play the game. Most just do it on the inside of the lip, and their "theory" is they'd never had an ATF agent an AR with a mag inserted. Here's an example: http://people.virginia.edu/~rjs7m/NFA/Veritas-AR-2.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Very good good info!! Can somebody please post a photo of the engraving inside of the receiver's magazines well of an AR/M4 lower receiver? I'm just wondering how far/deep inside of the magazine well these markings go. Thanks!! I've seen plenty of people do it, but it's a questionable enough location I'd never recommend it. With near the trigger hole or the front of the magwell as options, I just see no reason to play the game. Most just do it on the inside of the lip, and their "theory" is they'd never had an ATF agent an AR with a mag inserted. Here's an example: http://people.virginia.edu/~rjs7m/NFA/Veritas-AR-2.JPG Earlysville! Huh. Right up the road. |
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Earlysville! Huh. Right up the road. View Quote It was just one of the clearest ones that showed up under images when I searched for "magwell veritas engraving site:ar15.com" (click the link for additional examples) |
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Underside of the barrel (I'm not going to be using more than one barrel on the gun anyway)
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I got mine engraved by Tarheel, man he did excellent work. I had it back less than a week from when I dropped it off in the mail. I selected 1/16" for the engraving above the trigger pin on the right side. You can barely even tell it's there. I'll be sending him another one once my A1 lower shows up.
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I got mine engraved by Tarheel, man he she did excellent work. I had it back less than a week from when I dropped it off in the mail. I selected 1/16" for the engraving above the trigger pin on the right side. You can barely even tell it's there. I'll be sending him her another one once my A1 lower shows up. View Quote FIFY. (Scott's wife Teri does almost all of the engraving) |
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Very good good info!! Can somebody please post a photo of the engraving inside of the receiver's magazines well of an AR/M4 lower receiver? I'm just wondering how far/deep inside of the magazine well these markings go. Thanks!! I've seen plenty of people do it, but it's a questionable enough location I'd never recommend it. With near the trigger hole or the front of the magwell as options, I just see no reason to play the game. Most just do it on the inside of the lip, and their "theory" is they'd never had an ATF agent an AR with a mag inserted. Here's an example: http://people.virginia.edu/~rjs7m/NFA/Veritas-AR-2.JPG Earlysville! Huh. Right up the road. That's my lower, and yes, I live in E'ville. Veritas does a great job, and are good people to deal with. If you want to see it in person, let me know - I'm sure we can arrange something. Bob S. |
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That's my lower, and yes, I live in E'ville. Veritas does a great job, and are good people to deal with. If you want to see it in person, let me know - I'm sure we can arrange something. Bob S. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Very good good info!! Can somebody please post a photo of the engraving inside of the receiver's magazines well of an AR/M4 lower receiver? I'm just wondering how far/deep inside of the magazine well these markings go. Thanks!! I've seen plenty of people do it, but it's a questionable enough location I'd never recommend it. With near the trigger hole or the front of the magwell as options, I just see no reason to play the game. Most just do it on the inside of the lip, and their "theory" is they'd never hand an ATF agent an AR with a mag inserted. Here's an example: http://people.virginia.edu/~rjs7m/NFA/Veritas-AR-2.JPG Earlysville! Huh. Right up the road. That's my lower, and yes, I live in E'ville. Veritas does a great job, and are good people to deal with. If you want to see it in person, let me know - I'm sure we can arrange something. Bob S. If you guys are talking about Veritas Machining in Union, MI, he's 20 miles from me. Phil, the owner is good people, and a Army vet. In fact, I'm dropping off a lower tomorrow to be engraved. I also use the inside the magwell location. I'd post pictures of his work on my lower, except it's my actual name. I file as an individual. |
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I can't believe you guys have to mail your shit off to be engraved. I just drive over to Accu-Laser in Lee's Summit, MO, and for $30 I'm out of there in less than 20 minutes. New guy took it over last year, was only $20 before then. I guess these laser engravers must not be very common because he says folks ship him their guns from all over the country too.
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I can't believe you guys have to mail your shit off to be engraved. I just drive over to Accu-Laser in Lee's Summit, MO, and for $30 I'm out of there in less than 20 minutes. New guy took it over last year, was only $20 before then. I guess these laser engravers must not be very common because he says folks ship him their guns from all over the country too. View Quote Same here...but I live that close to THSF, who also receives stuff from all over. |
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I get mine done on the bottom, around the trigger hole.
Since mine are 80%ers, it's fun to watch people freak out thinking they are sterile and illegal. -Lee |
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I can't believe you guys have to mail your shit off to be engraved. I just drive over to Accu-Laser in Lee's Summit, MO, and for $30 I'm out of there in less than 20 minutes. New guy took it over last year, was only $20 before then. I guess these laser engravers must not be very common because he says folks ship him their guns from all over the country too. View Quote I live in a small city and I don't trust people here with engravers. The best thing we have is a damn trophy shop that butchers everything. Lol |
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Im getting ready to ship my lower off to Tar Heel Armory to be engraved. How do you guys ship your lowers off? USPS? UPS? What do you use to ship it in a flat rate box?
Can I ship it from home or do I have to have my FFL ship it and receive it back when its done? |
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Im getting ready to ship my lower off to Tar Heel Armory to be engraved. How do you guys ship your lowers off? USPS? UPS? What do you use to ship it in a flat rate box? Can I ship it from home or do I have to have my FFL ship it and receive it back when its done? View Quote I boxed mine up at home and dropped them off at USPS. No problems at all. They never ask me what I'm shipping. Also, I had 2 lowers engraved by THSF last month and they do an excellent job and the turn around time is flat out impressive! |
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All my 5.56 AR's have been engraved above the trigger pins, but I think with my Colt 6450, I'm going to have the upper receiver engraved, as I don't want to do the lower this time. It's only gonna wear a single upper, unlike my 5.56 guns.
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Engraving is considered a repair, so you can ship it directly to them and they can ship it back to you...without it coming back through a local FFL. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can I ship it from home or do I have to have my FFL ship it and receive it back when its done? Engraving is considered a repair, so you can ship it directly to them and they can ship it back to you...without it coming back through a local FFL. Thats what I did. USPS. Im having my engraved above the trigger pins symmetrical to the Spikes info on the other side. Hopefully it will look about the same. Now I have to actually get the upper for it. I want a LaRue 300blk 10.5 upper but I havent heard a peep about those in months. I guess ill have to get something else. |
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