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Posted: 1/18/2016 5:55:21 PM EDT

Can some PLEASE do me a favor and look at the carbine version of the Evo? I'd REALLY like to see how the handguard attaches to the upper!

The standard Evo uses the barrel nut at the muzzle, but with carbine version appearing to accept a 1.375" silencer, I'm not sure how this attaches now as the same method of a nut at 7" barrel length would require a very special tool that went deep into the handguard to secure.

I'd also like to know if the tan version they have coming is injection-molded tan, or it's the same black evo but cerakoted.

Posted: 1/18/2016 6:49:24 PM EDT

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I'd just like to see some pics of it. FDE/tan would be preferred.

Posted: 1/19/2016 5:16:15 AM EDT

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I'm interested also.

Posted: 1/20/2016 2:48:34 PM EDT

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BAu4bhbQs-u/?tagged=czscorpion

Only thing I could find so far.

Posted: 1/21/2016 4:30:34 PM EDT

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Same display, slightly different pics.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAzxOtlIB7M/?tagged=czscorpion

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAuw33nxryf/?tagged=czscorpion

Posted: 1/21/2016 5:50:11 PM EDT

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I like it but I have 9mm carbines coming out of my ears, I think I'll ride this SBR kick I'm on for awhile.

Posted: 1/21/2016 6:47:22 PM EDT

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Once we know the rail diameter, I'd like to cut the barrel and throw a suppressor inside of it.

Posted: 1/21/2016 7:54:21 PM EDT

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Once we know the rail diameter, I'd like to cut the barrel and throw a suppressor inside of it.

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I like it but I have 9mm carbines coming out of my ears, I think I'll ride this SBR kick I'm on for awhile.

Once we know the rail diameter, I'd like to cut the barrel and throw a suppressor inside of it.

Now you're speaking my language.

Posted: 1/21/2016 7:59:37 PM EDT

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I like it but I have 9mm carbines coming out of my ears, I think I'll ride this SBR kick I'm on for awhile.

Once we know the rail diameter, I'd like to cut the barrel and throw a suppressor inside of it.

Now you're speaking my language.

Was going to do it on an MPX but the Evo apparently suppresses way better. And that whole "not $1500" thing.

Posted: 1/21/2016 8:13:58 PM EDT

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I have pictures and info, cant post here on my phine but I have put up some pics on the Manticore Facebook page.

Carbines will have 16" barrels, and have either a muzzle brake or a slipover faux suppressor. They should be available by summer 2016.

Hanguard mounts the exact same way as the 8" model, so it is a bit tricky to instsll/remove the extended handguard but it can be done.

Balance, weight, and forend are all excellent.

Sven
Manticore Arms

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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:23:03 PM EDT

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Hanguard mounts the exact same way as the 8" model, so it is a bit tricky to instsll/remove the extended handguard but it can be done.
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You mean it requires a tool like this?!?

https://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y416/JL-Vargas/DSC04009_zps120315d1.jpg

Posted: 1/21/2016 8:35:50 PM EDT

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I want that extended hand guard for my sbr. Should be tits with my TiRant 9s tucked inside.

Posted: 1/21/2016 11:08:58 PM EDT

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Would like to know if the Evo 3 carbine will be offered in FDE?

Posted: 1/22/2016 2:11:43 AM EDT

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Yes... Well, tan yes, FDE specially I don't know.

Posted: 1/22/2016 2:08:12 PM EDT

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They thinking about a .45 version?

Posted: 1/22/2016 2:27:37 PM EDT

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45 Version

https://www.facebook.com/LaugoArms/photos/pcb.523421084474178/523420631140890/?type=3&theater

Posted: 1/22/2016 2:35:08 PM EDT

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I want that extended hand guard for my sbr. Should be tits with my TiRant 9s tucked inside.

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Like this?

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Posted: 1/22/2016 3:19:37 PM EDT

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Yes

Posted: 1/22/2016 4:32:25 PM EDT

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Please please please please

Posted: 1/22/2016 7:20:03 PM EDT

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As to a 45, it looks to me like it would be new bolt, new barrel, new ejector, and that's all. Ala HK UMP.

The barrel swap requires more work than the HK, but it's just tedious changing out the receiver screws is all.

If CZ wanted to, they could sell a 45 kit with fixture/trunnion, barrel, bolt, and trigger housing combine with the ejector if needed. They COULD anyhow...

Posted: 1/22/2016 7:40:17 PM EDT

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As to a 45, it looks to me like it would be new bolt, new barrel, new ejector, and that's all. Ala HK UMP.

The barrel swap requires more work than the HK, but it's just tedious changing out the receiver screws is all.

If CZ wanted to, they could sell a 45 kit with fixture/trunnion, barrel, bolt, and trigger housing combine with the ejector if needed. They COULD anyhow...

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No way would that be worth it IMO unless you wanted to swap to .45 and leave it.

At that point I think you're better off just buying a new gun.

Posted: 1/22/2016 9:54:55 PM EDT

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Yes... Well, tan yes, FDE specially I don't know.

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Would like to know if the Evo 3 carbine will be offered in FDE?

Yes... Well, tan yes, FDE specially I don't know.

Now we're talking.

Posted: 1/22/2016 10:31:17 PM EDT

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No way would that be worth it IMO unless you wanted to swap to .45 and leave it.

At that point I think you're better off just buying a new gun.

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As to a 45, it looks to me like it would be new bolt, new barrel, new ejector, and that's all. Ala HK UMP.

The barrel swap requires more work than the HK, but it's just tedious changing out the receiver screws is all.

If CZ wanted to, they could sell a 45 kit with fixture/trunnion, barrel, bolt, and trigger housing combine with the ejector if needed. They COULD anyhow...

No way would that be worth it IMO unless you wanted to swap to .45 and leave it.

At that point I think you're better off just buying a new gun.

Agreed, I'd buy a new one to have a .45.

Posted: 1/23/2016 1:40:02 AM EDT

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No way would that be worth it IMO unless you wanted to swap to .45 and leave it.

At that point I think you're better off just buying a new gun.

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As to a 45, it looks to me like it would be new bolt, new barrel, new ejector, and that's all. Ala HK UMP.

The barrel swap requires more work than the HK, but it's just tedious changing out the receiver screws is all.

If CZ wanted to, they could sell a 45 kit with fixture/trunnion, barrel, bolt, and trigger housing combine with the ejector if needed. They COULD anyhow...

No way would that be worth it IMO unless you wanted to swap to .45 and leave it.

At that point I think you're better off just buying a new gun.

I mean, the way you SHOULD be looking at it, is, yes, get a new gun in 45, then swap your SBR'ed receiver half over, good to go. That would be five screws or so.

Posted: 1/23/2016 2:04:44 AM EDT

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I want that extended hand guard for my sbr. Should be tits with my TiRant 9s tucked inside.

Like this?

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Yes.

Posted: 2/3/2016 8:55:30 AM EDT

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Keep in mind, excessive recoil was one of the reasons the HK UMP never caught on. The Scorp follows a similar design philosophy.

Posted: 2/3/2016 11:55:50 AM EDT

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Except many of us have had a Scorpion for over a year and the recoil is not excessive. The UMP had many other problems besides excessive recoil.

Posted: 2/4/2016 12:48:32 AM EDT

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The HK price tag for a polymer frame blowback is why the UMP never caught on. The and typical HK marginal
Ergonomics.

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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:47:51 PM EDT

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I hope they get out sooner rather than later, and don't cost a ton. I want a 9mm carbine, something I can use with my can (Mystic X). The handguard being large enough to fit a can under is a very nice feature... I'll definitely SBR whatever I get.