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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:05:32 PM EDT
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Nope you can buy the sb tactical arm brace tube or any other pistol buffer tube and be good. As long as you don't put an actual stock on it you'll be fine.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:06:03 PM EDT
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I hope by the time my Form 1 comes back they will either be selling the US parts piece meal, or the 922 kit without the stock. In Marylandistan, we have to have a 29 inch OAL and the factory stock won't do it unless I pin a muzzle adapter of sorts on.
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USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:02:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By developer:
BUT that makes it SBR correct? Only if you shoulder it. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:26:23 PM EDT
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So I can be sure that newbies are clear to the rules of law on using a brace. The brace is only a brace. Unless you shoulder it then your in trouble if caught. As it is then a sbr as said above. With the blade brace I'm using. I cheek weld mine and can shot it very accurately.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:02:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ImageX]
[#5]
Almost done... finally.
 My Octane 9 will be here in a few days and then it will be finished.... other than adding a laser/light. I love this thing!
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:53:45 PM EDT
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Nice
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 10:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImageX:
Almost done... finally. My Octane 9 will be here in a few days and then it will be finished.... other than adding a laser/light. I love this thing!
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2929/FIYkHH.jpg For a minute I thought you stole my gun. That is my exact setup right down to the 3 lug. (plus a RVG ) . |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 11:00:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Same here, I'll just leave the order in until someone else gets them in stock. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Originally Posted By DigDug:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
Originally Posted By CTran555:
For those that ordered from Optics Planet, I called to see what the story was. They said they were expecting 11 kits to come in today. They had 40 people order the kits already. Dammit I hope I was one of the 11  I didn't get one. Got an email saying there is no ETA on my order they already took my money for. That place has always seemed fucky to me... Same here, I'll just leave the order in until someone else gets them in stock. That's odd, I too received an email saying no eta but they also specifically said that they would not charge my card until they could ship it. I thought it was quite stand up of them myself. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2015 11:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
For a minute I thought you stole my gun. That is my exact setup right down to the 3 lug. (plus a RVG ) . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Almost done... finally. My Octane 9 will be here in a few days and then it will be finished.... other than adding a laser/light. I love this thing!
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2929/FIYkHH.jpg For a minute I thought you stole my gun. That is my exact setup right down to the 3 lug. (plus a RVG ) . Sweet. I haven't decided if I want to run a RVG or not but if I do... I think I'd go with the BCM Gunfighter Shorty. I have a Larue FUG that I love... but the QD mount will tear into the Scorpion's polymer... so it's staying on my Scar17. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 10:09:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Only if you shoulder it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
BUT that makes it SBR correct? Only if you shoulder it. I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 11:16:12 AM EDT
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Mine is pretty much finished
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Posted: 11/7/2015 11:22:52 AM EDT
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If anyone has an extra 922 kit, let me know...
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Posted: 11/7/2015 11:56:54 AM EDT
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So I've been reading this thread as its progessed and I finally picked up my scorpion a few days ago. im planning to SBR it and run suppressed. The threads a bit long to read through again, I'm curious what suppressors you guys are running and like on your evos?
I am also on the lookout for a tube adapter and brace if any of you that have gotten your 922r kits are looking to sell let me know. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 12:00:51 PM EDT
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Also looking for 922 stock kit. IM me a price.
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USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 12:10:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gazorpazorp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 12:14:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. ATF has never issued a letter or ruling on going from pistol to SBR back to pistol. Rifle to SBR back to Rifle is fine. Pistol to Rifle back to Pistol is fine. Pistol to SBR to Pistol may or may not be. When you SBR your pistol you've legally created a new firearm, so even though it effectively started life as a pistol, legally it didn't. Are you ever going to get in trouble for popping the stock off and crossing state lines, I don't think you'd even be a blip on the radar. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 12:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImageX:
Sweet. I haven't decided if I want to run a RVG or not but if I do... I think I'd go with the BCM Gunfighter Shorty. I have a Larue FUG that I love... but the QD mount will tear into the Scorpion's polymer... so it's staying on my Scar17. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImageX:
Originally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Almost done... finally. My Octane 9 will be here in a few days and then it will be finished.... other than adding a laser/light. I love this thing!
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2929/FIYkHH.jpg For a minute I thought you stole my gun. That is my exact setup right down to the 3 lug. (plus a RVG ) . Sweet. I haven't decided if I want to run a RVG or not but if I do... I think I'd go with the BCM Gunfighter Shorty. I have a Larue FUG that I love... but the QD mount will tear into the Scorpion's polymer... so it's staying on my Scar17. Here it is with a RVG. I like it, a BCM shorty would probably work well also. I don't actually hold it by the RVG, more of a brace for my hand between it and the forward stop if that makes sense. 
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Posted: 11/7/2015 2:54:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
Here it is with a RVG. I like it, a BCM shorty would probably work well also. I don't actually hold it by the RVG, more of a brace for my hand between it and the forward stop if that makes sense. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/Triple8Racing/media/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/Triple8Racing/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg</a> . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Originally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Almost done... finally. My Octane 9 will be here in a few days and then it will be finished.... other than adding a laser/light. I love this thing!
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2929/FIYkHH.jpg For a minute I thought you stole my gun. That is my exact setup right down to the 3 lug. (plus a RVG ) . Sweet. I haven't decided if I want to run a RVG or not but if I do... I think I'd go with the BCM Gunfighter Shorty. I have a Larue FUG that I love... but the QD mount will tear into the Scorpion's polymer... so it's staying on my Scar17. Here it is with a RVG. I like it, a BCM shorty would probably work well also. I don't actually hold it by the RVG, more of a brace for my hand between it and the forward stop if that makes sense. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/Triple8Racing/media/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/Triple8Racing/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg</a> . Got mine like that. I think the RVG looks and feels great. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 4:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cap6888:
I hope by the time my Form 1 comes back they will either be selling the US parts piece meal, or the 922 kit without the stock. In Marylandistan, we have to have a 29 inch OAL and the factory stock won't do it unless I pin a muzzle adapter of sorts on. That's why I opted to Form 1 my MPX first, I am going to do the same thing, I have 2 non US parts replaced already, I'll form 1 it after I get required amount replaced with US. I'm sure as hell not going to take just 2 mags to the range. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 6:35:41 PM EDT
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So........How did ya'll get the factory grip off?
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Posted: 11/7/2015 6:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
So........How did ya'll get the factory grip off? By undoing the screw and sliding it off the back? Use a rubber mallet if you need. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 6:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
So........How did ya'll get the factory grip off? rubber mallet or protect in with cardboard/tape a use gunsmithing hammer. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 6:44:07 PM EDT
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Fiocchi 158gr into the dirt then a couple on steel. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 6:46:19 PM EDT
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Ok I'll give it a whack.
I already broke one part, dont want to do it again. |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 6:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: By undoing the screw and sliding it off the back? Use a rubber mallet if you need. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a: So........How did ya'll get the factory grip off? By undoing the screw and sliding it off the back? Use a rubber mallet if you need. This. Also, if you look at the new grip, you can see where you can use a punch to drive the grip out if it sticks. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 8:29:51 PM EDT
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Success. And I Didnt break anything this time. Couple light taps with my mallet and it came out.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 8:37:40 PM EDT
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Is there any more manufacturers for replacement grips besides yeti?
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Posted: 11/7/2015 9:17:10 PM EDT
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All painted up
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VA, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 9:41:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dustrod:
All painted up <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162114_zpshpk8fqcr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162114_zpshpk8fqcr.jpg</a> <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162129_zpsphqgzpnd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162129_zpsphqgzpnd.jpg</a> <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162242_zps7eqzijqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162242_zps7eqzijqg.jpg</a> Oooooh. I like that. What's the process and which paint did you use? |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 10:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lithgow303:
Oooooh. I like that. What's the process and which paint did you use? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lithgow303:
Originally Posted By Dustrod:
All painted up <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162114_zpshpk8fqcr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162114_zpshpk8fqcr.jpg</a> <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162129_zpsphqgzpnd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162129_zpsphqgzpnd.jpg</a> <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162242_zps7eqzijqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162242_zps7eqzijqg.jpg</a> Oooooh. I like that. What's the process and which paint did you use? Just stripped it all down, cleaned everything with rubbing alcohol, tape and spray. I used duracoat tactical FDE Here is my take down video if you ever need it, shameless plug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2015 10:22:21 PM EDT
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Looks awesome
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Posted: 11/8/2015 12:26:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 5:01:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedro66:
The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedro66:
Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR A Form 1 gives you authorization to make an SBR. Until you make it, it doesn't exist. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 9:21:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedro66: The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedro66: Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp: Originally Posted By developer: I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2015 10:34:52 AM EDT
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Very nice Duracoat job on the Evo Dustrod! Extra nice since you cant see the color mismatch in the matterhorn grip!
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VA, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:05:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dustrod:
Just stripped it all down, cleaned everything with rubbing alcohol, tape and spray. I used duracoat tactical FDE Here is my take down video if you ever need it, shameless plug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dustrod:
Originally Posted By lithgow303:
Originally Posted By Dustrod:
All painted up <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162114_zpshpk8fqcr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162114_zpshpk8fqcr.jpg</a> <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162129_zpsphqgzpnd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162129_zpsphqgzpnd.jpg</a> <a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/user/wdrodgers/media/20151107_162242_zps7eqzijqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/wdrodgers/20151107_162242_zps7eqzijqg.jpg</a> Oooooh. I like that. What's the process and which paint did you use? Just stripped it all down, cleaned everything with rubbing alcohol, tape and spray. I used duracoat tactical FDE Here is my take down video if you ever need it, shameless plug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs Great job, I may do the same as I REALLY like how that looks. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:24:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuestion, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:41:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. Mine did not have locktite, but it did take a bit of effort to get it to break free. I did not have to put any heat on it. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 12:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. I know the question wasn't directed at me, but figured I would answer anyway since I recently removed mine. Mine had a ton of red Locktite on it and was a nightmare to get off. Ended up heating the barrel up quite a bit with a torch and it finally broke loose. I used a 20mm open end wrench, but had already ordered the CZ Custom barrel nut tool (just got impatient waiting for it to arrive, and sixty bucks... ouch). I locked mine in a vice being sure that the contact points were the two front sling swivels, as those are dovetailed into the barrel extension and that way I wasn't torquing on the plastic body. All in all not terrible, but if money allows I would get the CZ Custom tool, it definitely is the right tool for the job (mine showed up two days after I did it with a wrench... ugh, patience isn't my defining trait). |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 1:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manji: I know the question wasn't directed at me, but figured I would answer anyway since I recently removed mine. Mine had a ton of red Locktite on it and was a nightmare to get off. Ended up heating the barrel up quite a bit with a torch and it finally broke loose. I used a 20mm open end wrench, but had already ordered the CZ Custom barrel nut tool (just got impatient waiting for it to arrive, and sixty bucks... ouch). I locked mine in a vice being sure that the contact points were the two front sling swivels, as those are dovetailed into the barrel extension and that way I wasn't torquing on the plastic body. All in all not terrible, but if money allows I would get the CZ Custom tool, it definitely is the right tool for the job (mine showed up two days after I did it with a wrench... ugh, patience isn't my defining trait). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manji: Originally Posted By PC-Tech: Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. I know the question wasn't directed at me, but figured I would answer anyway since I recently removed mine. Mine had a ton of red Locktite on it and was a nightmare to get off. Ended up heating the barrel up quite a bit with a torch and it finally broke loose. I used a 20mm open end wrench, but had already ordered the CZ Custom barrel nut tool (just got impatient waiting for it to arrive, and sixty bucks... ouch). I locked mine in a vice being sure that the contact points were the two front sling swivels, as those are dovetailed into the barrel extension and that way I wasn't torquing on the plastic body. All in all not terrible, but if money allows I would get the CZ Custom tool, it definitely is the right tool for the job (mine showed up two days after I did it with a wrench... ugh, patience isn't my defining trait). |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 1:43:56 PM EDT
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If you don't ever plan on putting the compensator-catch back on, just stick a flat head jewelers screwdriver (or equivalent) under it and pry it off. I took mine off long before removing the barrel nut. You'll ruin the catch, but it didn't even leave a mark on the barrel nut. Ordered a new catch for $9 off CZ's site in case I should ever need one again.
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Posted: 11/8/2015 2:24:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. Mine was easy unlike everyone else. Guess I got lucky |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 2:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
Question, How hard was it to take the barrel nut out the first time? I've seen others say it has lock tight. Mine was extremely difficult to remove, and had some type of lock tight. Once it was removed and clean it spins nice and free. Does anyone know the torque specification to reinstall the barrel nut? |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 3:47:51 PM EDT
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Does anybody know the purpose of the compensator catch? Isnt the compensator torqued onto the barrel?
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Posted: 11/8/2015 4:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By benb:
Does anybody know the purpose of the compensator catch? Isnt the compensator torqued onto the barrel? It's just hand tight. I guess CZ wanted a cheap/easy way to make it suppressor friendly |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 4:11:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
A Form 1 gives you authorization to make an SBR. Until you make it, it doesn't exist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By pedro66:
Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR A Form 1 gives you authorization to make an SBR. Until you make it, it doesn't exist. Sorry your wrong the moment it goes on the register its an SBR however configured, how do I know this I make at least one NFA a day either in our shop or for clients |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 4:55:15 PM EDT
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[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ToyCop:
It's the same with AR receivers and there is no issue with throwing a 16" upper on and crossing state lines. The Scorpion, being a pistol, makes the question a bit more interesting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ToyCop:
Originally Posted By pedro66:
Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR If the maker still retains the parts(constructive) that can make it into a SBR..... then it is still an SBR in the eyes of the ATF....regardless of a 16" upper being on the gun. If the parts are in another state then I doubt constructive possion would apply. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 4:59:48 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedro66:
Sorry your wrong the moment it goes on the register its an SBR however configured, how do I know this I make at least one NFA a day either in our shop or for clients Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedro66:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By pedro66:
Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By developer:
I was referring to the factory stock. I'm keeping the evo in pistol form, so I can take it to other states. anyways, the guy I had a deal with welched. if anyone has their stamp and willing to sell me an adapter + tube(to fit a shock wave) pm me pls. Sorry, yes. I am about 70% certain you can temporarily revert an SBR to Title 1 status, so you can (legally) freely travel across state lines, by removing the stock. SBR it, use it in your home state, and if you need to travel you can remove the stock and use it as a pistol. Correct me if I am wrong, people. The serialized receiver is the Firearm/SBR take the stock off its still a registered SBR, Unless you write to the ATF and ask them to remove the weapon from the register but want to configure as an SBR again then is another $200 no flip flopping at will with the NFA once you register and pay the tax it goes on the register regardless of if you fit or even own a stock then its an SBR A Form 1 gives you authorization to make an SBR. Until you make it, it doesn't exist. Sorry your wrong the moment it goes on the register its an SBR however configured, how do I know this I make at least one NFA a day either in our shop or for clients Don't care what you make, you're wrong. ATF has made it clear that SBRs can't exist without the whole of their parts. You need receivers, a short barrel, and stock to be an SBR. Without any of those elements you don't have an SBR, regardless of registration. This is why you're allowed to take your registered SBR across state lines without a 5320.20 if you don't have the short barrel with you. It's why you can't buy a factory registered SBR lower, you have to buy the complete rifle. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 5:39:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Don't care what you make, you're wrong. ATF has made it clear that SBRs can't exist without the whole of their parts. You need receivers, a short barrel, and stock to be an SBR. Without any of those elements you don't have an SBR, regardless of registration. This is why you're allowed to take your registered SBR across state lines without a 5320.20 if you don't have the short barrel with you. It's why you can't buy a factory registered SBR lower, you have to buy the complete rifle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By pedro66:
Sorry your wrong the moment it goes on the register its an SBR however configured, how do I know this I make at least one NFA a day either in our shop or for clients Don't care what you make, you're wrong. ATF has made it clear that SBRs can't exist without the whole of their parts. You need receivers, a short barrel, and stock to be an SBR. Without any of those elements you don't have an SBR, regardless of registration. This is why you're allowed to take your registered SBR across state lines without a 5320.20 if you don't have the short barrel with you. It's why you can't buy a factory registered SBR lower, you have to buy the complete rifle. From what I've read JoshAston is correct. The part in red most clearly demonstrates it. For the same reason, if you get your approved F1 but never create the SBR, you can request a refund. I know many FFL's differ on their interpretation of ATF rules/rulings/laws but the most experienced isn't necessarily right. |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 8:50:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
Here it is with a RVG. I like it, a BCM shorty would probably work well also. I don't actually hold it by the RVG, more of a brace for my hand between it and the forward stop if that makes sense. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/Triple8Racing/media/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/Triple8Racing/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg</a> . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Originally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Almost done... finally. My Octane 9 will be here in a few days and then it will be finished.... other than adding a laser/light. I love this thing!
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2929/FIYkHH.jpg For a minute I thought you stole my gun. That is my exact setup right down to the 3 lug. (plus a RVG ) . Sweet. I haven't decided if I want to run a RVG or not but if I do... I think I'd go with the BCM Gunfighter Shorty. I have a Larue FUG that I love... but the QD mount will tear into the Scorpion's polymer... so it's staying on my Scar17. Here it is with a RVG. I like it, a BCM shorty would probably work well also. I don't actually hold it by the RVG, more of a brace for my hand between it and the forward stop if that makes sense. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/Triple8Racing/media/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/Triple8Racing/IMAG1671_zpswz96rycu.jpg</a> . Here's mine with the BCM. 
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