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Posted: 12/2/2015 11:39:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crizain:
Are there any detailed photos comparing the US made trigger parts with the factory pieces? Yes, I mixed them up on my work bench. I couldn't tell a difference... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2015 11:48:53 PM EDT
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Pretty sure I sorted it out. The factory trigger shoe has a date stamp and an open slot in the rear. The us made disconnecter face is also different. looking for photos to be 100% sure.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:26:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crizain: Pretty sure I sorted it out. The factory trigger shoe has a date stamp and an open slot in the rear. The us made disconnecter face is also different. looking for photos to be 100% sure.   |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 4:59:28 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImageX:
Good news regarding the new forend! ... and just a FYI but the Octane 9 is 1.37". 
Octane 45 is 1.375". http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Evo-Carbine-2-660x371.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ImageX:
Originally Posted By CZ USA Facebook Page
In case your Thanksgiving food coma had some staying power, or you just live under a rock, did you see our Thanksgiving Day release of the Scorpion Carbines? For all you Scorpion SBR owners, this forend will be available to swap on in place of the pistol forend to help hide a can up to 1.38" without interfering with the M-LOK attachment points (bigger cans can fit with lower-profile M-LOK nuts like used on many official Magpul accessories). Good news regarding the new forend! ... and just a FYI but the Octane 9 is 1.37".
Octane 45 is 1.375". http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Evo-Carbine-2-660x371.jpg That's really really close. Like probably less than the thickness of a sheet of paper for the .45. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2015 6:03:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15:
That's really really close. Like probably less than the thickness of a sheet of paper for the .45. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By ImageX:
Originally Posted By CZ USA Facebook Page
In case your Thanksgiving food coma had some staying power, or you just live under a rock, did you see our Thanksgiving Day release of the Scorpion Carbines? For all you Scorpion SBR owners, this forend will be available to swap on in place of the pistol forend to help hide a can up to 1.38" without interfering with the M-LOK attachment points (bigger cans can fit with lower-profile M-LOK nuts like used on many official Magpul accessories). Good news regarding the new forend! ... and just a FYI but the Octane 9 is 1.37".
Octane 45 is 1.375". http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Evo-Carbine-2-660x371.jpg That's really really close. Like probably less than the thickness of a sheet of paper for the .45. Yep... it doesn't get any closer than that. The forend itself will have a little more clearance though. I'd run the low profile M-Lok bolts if I had a Octane 45. I may even do it with my Octane 9. We'll have to wait and see. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 9:52:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Well shit, my D-tube Form 1 can is 1.5" OD. Sigh, guess I need to make a new can off the B tube specs with a 1.31" OD.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 10:39:23 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking:
Well shit, my D-tube Form 1 can is 1.5" OD. Sigh, guess I need to make a new can off the B tube specs with a 1.31" OD. Or you could get a 1.375" tube, lighter weight and more volume. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 11:56:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Gazorpazorp]
[#8]
double post
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USA
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Posted: 12/3/2015 11:57:00 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crizain:
Are there any detailed photos comparing the US made trigger parts with the factory pieces? Yes, I mixed them up on my work bench. The US made disconnector is thinner and smooth on both sides unlike the Czech made disconnector which has contoured protrusions on the side. I do not know the purpose of the original shape or why they changed it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 9:36:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Anyone running the griffin revolution suppressor on the Evo? Thoughts? Most all I see are the octanes.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 10:11:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Can anybody tell me what those "iron" sights are made of?
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Posted: 12/3/2015 10:18:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tirador223:
Can anybody tell me what those "iron" sights are made of? Machined aluminum Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 10:33:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DigDug]
[#13]
What seems to be the favorite suppressor for the evo? I don't have a pistol suppressor yet and probably would get a .45 cal model for more universal use on my inventory.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 11:16:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DigDug: What seems to be the favorite suppressor for the evo? I don't have a pistol suppressor yet and probably would get a .45 cal model for more universal use on my inventory. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 11:20:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
Anyone running the griffin revolution suppressor on the Evo? Thoughts? Most all I see are the octanes. Using mine with the SiCo Scorpion adapter... Works great and is pretty quiet |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 11:22:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pc299:
Using mine with the SiCo Scorpion adapter... Works great and is pretty quiet Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pc299:
Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Anyone running the griffin revolution suppressor on the Evo? Thoughts? Most all I see are the octanes. Using mine with the SiCo Scorpion adapter... Works great and is pretty quiet Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 12:47:30 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking:
Well shit, my D-tube Form 1 can is 1.5" OD. Sigh, guess I need to make a new can off the B tube specs with a 1.31" OD. I'm in the same boat, but I built that can strictly for the EVO so it's on there for good. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 3:58:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Just saw this video about the carbine version of the evo.. Is it a repost?
https://youtu.be/58-JsN0AGWk |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2015 8:41:20 AM EDT
[#19]
I have a like new, as in never been to the range, CZ Buffer Tube adaptor
$40 Shipped |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 1:41:42 PM EDT
[#20]
This is not the place to sell, youre gonna get the thread locked. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 5:10:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
Originally Posted By pc299:
Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Anyone running the griffin revolution suppressor on the Evo? Thoughts? Most all I see are the octanes. Using mine with the SiCo Scorpion adapter... Works great and is pretty quiet Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? Full size, blowback isn't an issue, just running out of ammo 
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Posted: 12/4/2015 5:17:18 PM EDT
[#22]
The grip in the 922r kit has a much better feel than my factory grip. The factory one is very smooth whereas the new 922r one has a very very faint texture to it, and doesn't slip around as much.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2015 6:10:43 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FLJay:
I have a like new, as in never been to the range, CZ Buffer Tube adaptor $40 Shipped Sold |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2015 6:11:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
This is not the place to sell, youre gonna get the thread locked. Sorry, didn't mean to mess up things |
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USA
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Posted: 12/4/2015 7:24:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 8:17:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WillysJeep]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. Will be interested to see once my adapter comes in.... |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:06:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4_Commando]
[#27]
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! 
image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:14:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. I liked the look of their first prototype. This one, not so much. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:21:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. Some games are fine the way they are. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 11:31:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. The blowback all goes in your mags. I could actually see the blowback going in my mags, making them pretty dirty, but thankfully they're transparent so you can see when it's bad enough to require cleaning. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 11:37:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Nice. In the K or full size configuration? How is the blowback? There is zero blowback in the Scorpion. ARs have blowback because of the charging handle channel creating an avenue for gases to travel rearwards and into your face; there is no such hole in the receiver on the Scorpion. The entire gun operates through blowback. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 12:55:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp: Some games are fine the way they are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp: Originally Posted By nchapa: Manticore Arms slider stock game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. Some games are fine the way they are. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 1:05:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4_Commando]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
I liked the look of their first prototype. This one, not so much. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. I liked the look of their first prototype. This one, not so much. I did too but it also looked like it would be uncomfortable. Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. Some games are fine the way they are. 
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Posted: 12/5/2015 10:17:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Why not try and do a fold over wire stock like the 61? Was the 61 stock terrible to the point that no one has mentioned it? I think it would be gtg as a forward grip point when folded. Not sure with the width of the evo that it would be an option I just love the 61 wire stock look.
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Posted: 12/5/2015 11:47:38 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
The entire gun operates through blowback. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
The entire gun operates through blowback. That is not the correct definition of "blowback" in the context of suppressor usage. Originally Posted By jerz_subbie:
The blowback all goes in your mags. I could actually see the blowback going in my mags, making them pretty dirty, but thankfully they're transparent so you can see when it's bad enough to require cleaning. Good point, although the majority of conversations involving suppressor gas blowback on AR15-centric boards relates to receiving expanding propellant gases in the face. All suppressed guns suffer blowback in one fashion, usually involving increased dirtying of the receiver and magazines as well as stripping of lubrication from important operating surfaces. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 3:27:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. I'm sticking with the CZ stock, but I would like to know more about that mag. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 4:17:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. Anybody else notice the new charging handle in that picture? Can't wait to see more pics! 
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Posted: 12/5/2015 5:00:26 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
I'm sticking with the CZ stock, but I would like to know more about that mag. Black krylon + factory mags = that mag |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 7:33:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
I'm sticking with the CZ stock, but I would like to know more about that mag. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. I'm sticking with the CZ stock, but I would like to know more about that mag. It is just a factory transluscent magazine- the lighting just makes it look black. (I took the picture so I can gaurantee that. )
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Posted: 12/5/2015 7:38:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tfdarchos:
Anybody else notice the new charging handle in that picture? Can't wait to see more pics! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tfdarchos:
Originally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. Anybody else notice the new charging handle in that picture? Can't wait to see more pics! Manticore Extnded Charging Handle for the Scorpion EVO. Should be up for sale later this coming week. MSRP under $60 Sven Manticore Arms (prior to anodizing of the handle) 
(prior to anodizing of handle) 
(First anodized handle out of the anodizing solution) 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2015 12:16:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ImageX]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Also, I knew there would be a lot of questions on why the Manticore Slider Stock for the EVO changed. Here is what changed and why: There may be some minor tweaks to the final design. This is a pre-production prototype to test ergonomics, study the improvements, and to calculate machine time. The rods are not cut to length yet (they will end just before the front side sling swivels that are between the front of the receiver and the forend), and will be black on production parts. I do not have an MSRP, but it will be over $125 for sure. If it is going to be over $200 MSRP due to manufacturing cost then likely we won't put it into production as I just don't see the market wanting to pay that much for it. The changes: 1. Now uses 3/8" rods for greater cheek comfort and to clear ejection port better. (the solid rectangular legs flexed, were not comfortable on the cheek, and partially blocked the ejection port thus potentially causing jams when a case would get knocked back in) 2. Improved locking mechanism (not installed, but trust me, it is better than the previous design!) 3. Improved ergonomics buttpad (original one looked cool but was too short and too wide for a proper shoulder weld). Buttplate has a integral QD sling sqivel pocket and sling loop pocket, and screw holes for future add-on molded buttpad for the more sensitive types.
4. Mounting block will have at least one QD pocket built into it. Still picking the final location(s) 5. Stock rods will have a closed position and 4 adjustment positions when deployed. LOP will be approx 10", 11", 12", 13" Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions! As Louis Sullivan used to say "form follows function" so every change you see was ultimately done to improve function thus giving it the current form. Yeah, I liked the way the original looked, but in actual practice it was a proof of concept that needed some quite a few practical changes to work a lot better. Sven Manticore Arms <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/css%201.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/css%201.jpg</a> <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/css%202.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/css%202.jpg</a> <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/css%203.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/css%203.jpg</a> <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/css%204.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/css%204.jpg</a> <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/css%206.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/css%206.jpg</a> That looks great and will be a nice option. On a side note, I have a question for you. Do you think your 3-lug will work with the new carbine length forend? Since the forend retainer has flats on it for a wrench...the new forend will probably include a retainer extension of some sort for installing it. I'm not sure how it will work and have never taken mine apart. It seems that once the new forend is installed.... there would be no way to tighten your current 3-lug since you can no longer get a wrench on it. I may be overthinking it but it appears that you would absolutely have to have one like the TROS in order to get a deep well socket on it in order to tighten it. If that is the case, are you up for a new design?
Edit to add: It may be possible to tighten the 3-lug adapter by using the suppressor itself. It might be just enough torque and a strap wrench would help too. Maybe use extra rockset. lol For now... I think that may be my solution. I just want to keep 3-lug mounting with the new forend. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 1:07:57 AM EDT
[#43]
Until we see how the new carbine forend attaches and what thread paytern is used at the muzzle there is no way to verify if it will work or not.
I dont have any inside info on the new carbines, I was just as (pleasantly) surprised as everyone else to see it in the Colin Noir video. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2015 1:19:36 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Until we see how the new carbine forend attaches and what thread paytern is used at the muzzle there is no way to verify if it will work or not. I dont have any inside info on the new carbines, I was just as (pleasantly) surprised as everyone else to see it in the Colin Noir video. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No doubt I hope soon we will have more specs on what is coming so we can be prepped for it. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 5:11:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2015 6:53:05 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
It is just a factory transluscent magazine- the lighting just makes it look black. (I took the picture so I can gaurantee that. )
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By nchapa:
Manticore Arms slider stock
game changer! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1449281074268_zpseubtphds.jpg image is from facebook CZ scorpion evo III enthusiast page. I'm sticking with the CZ stock, but I would like to know more about that mag. It is just a factory transluscent magazine- the lighting just makes it look black. (I took the picture so I can gaurantee that. )
Oh well. Can still dream, I guess. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 1:15:20 PM EDT
[#47]
That manticore stock looks cheap. Doesn't even look like its worth $100.
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Posted: 12/6/2015 2:33:04 PM EDT
[#48]
^ Why does it look cheap? I see a fair of amount of machining involved just from the pics
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Posted: 12/6/2015 3:33:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
That manticore stock looks cheap. Doesn't even look like its worth $100. Not my cup of tea (at least yet ), but it looks actually well made and machined. As posted by Sven it is not finished (in the white) but seems pretty good built.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2015 6:26:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rcbif]
[#50]
Manticore_Arms -
Wouldn't recommend putting your manufacture markings there. Nobody likes looking at those. Perhaps on the bottom side if it must be on there. |
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