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I got a Henry Big Boy in .357mag about six months ago. Recoil is less than my AR. Damn sucks you have to wait 10 days to play with it.
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I got a Henry Big Boy in .357mag about six months ago. Recoil is less than my AR. Damn sucks you have to wait 10 days to play with it. View Quote If they had a Henry Big Boy Steel in 357mag I would have purchased that instead. With the money I saved, I bought reloading dies, 1,500 primers, 100 bullets and 100 rounds. Glad I saved 38spl and 357 mag brass I found over the years. The action felt smooth and other than the sights I think I will enjoy this thing. |
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If they had a Henry Big Boy Steel in 357mag I would have purchased that instead. With the money I saved, I bought reloading dies, 1,500 primers, 100 bullets and 100 rounds. Glad I saved 38spl and 357 mag brass I found over the years. The action felt smooth and other than the sights I think I will enjoy this thing. View Quote Now Sir, get yerself to Brownells and look at the Part Number 579-000-173MB. This is the Marble's WINDAGE and ELEVATION adjustable, tang mounted peep sight. And don't forget the screw set you will need as well. For the cartridge at hand this will give you all the accuracy and rapid target acquisition you will ever need. Be sure to use the chat feature if needed to be sure you get the correct sight for your gun. I had this sight on a Marlin lever gun in .357 and it was very fast to shoot, and tons of fun. Sadly, the rifle itself was not up to my standards, so it went away. THE SIGHT however ended up on one of my '94 Winchester 30-30s. That combo is a terrific hunting rig within the limitations of the cartridge. Needless to say, I am a big fan of the peep sight for pistol caliber carbines. |
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I bought a Marlin 366 years ago. I love it. It is my loaner rifle when a friend wants to try out deer hunting. It's taken a few!
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Now Sir, get yerself to Brownells and look at the Part Number 579-000-173MB. This is the Marble's WINDAGE and ELEVATION adjustable, tang mounted peep sight. And don't forget the screw set you will need as well. For the cartridge at hand this will give you all the accuracy and rapid target acquisition you will ever need. Be sure to use the chat feature if needed to be sure you get the correct sight for your gun. I had this sight on a Marlin lever gun in .357 and it was very fast to shoot, and tons of fun. Sadly, the rifle itself was not up to my standards, so it went away. THE SIGHT however ended up on one of my '94 Winchester 30-30s. That combo is a terrific hunting rig within the limitations of the cartridge. Needless to say, I am a big fan of the peep sight for pistol caliber carbines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they had a Henry Big Boy Steel in 357mag I would have purchased that instead. With the money I saved, I bought reloading dies, 1,500 primers, 100 bullets and 100 rounds. Glad I saved 38spl and 357 mag brass I found over the years. The action felt smooth and other than the sights I think I will enjoy this thing. Now Sir, get yerself to Brownells and look at the Part Number 579-000-173MB. This is the Marble's WINDAGE and ELEVATION adjustable, tang mounted peep sight. And don't forget the screw set you will need as well. For the cartridge at hand this will give you all the accuracy and rapid target acquisition you will ever need. Be sure to use the chat feature if needed to be sure you get the correct sight for your gun. I had this sight on a Marlin lever gun in .357 and it was very fast to shoot, and tons of fun. Sadly, the rifle itself was not up to my standards, so it went away. THE SIGHT however ended up on one of my '94 Winchester 30-30s. That combo is a terrific hunting rig within the limitations of the cartridge. Needless to say, I am a big fan of the peep sight for pistol caliber carbines. That looks interesting. I was looking at a Lyman globe for the front sight and a Skinner rear peep sight. |
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Sounds like fun, post photos when you can. I bought a 16" stainless version last year and submitted paperwork to convert it to a SBR. I'm going to thread it and use a suppressor in the interim though, just got the stamp back for the can yesterday in fact.
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If the OP bought the Rifle or Short Rifle setup with the octagon barrel, the tang is d&t for the tang sight from the factory. If he bought the carbine then it's not. The Marbles tang and Lyman globe front sight is a slick setup, especially when using the target aperture. I use mine to shoot my 158grn full power 357mag handloads at steel plates at 300yds. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2840.jpg Here is what I used on my 24” Rifle. I really like this setup and I hope this information helps: (Note: in the picture above I'd removed the rear sight, however, I have since added it back.) I got the sights at Brownells: • Front - Lyman Globe front sight model 17A - Brownells' p/n. 539-017-444WB (metric dovetail) • 1ea LeeShaver Insert Set for Lyman 17A combo card – Brownells' p/n. 781-100-017 (I use the small post) • Or – 1eaMarbles 45MR 1/16” Brass Bead front sight Marbles p/n 604521, Brownells' p/n. 579-604-521WB • Rear - MarbleFolding Sporting Rear Sight No. 95 - Brownells' p/n. 579-000-082 (you need a folding one so it doesn't block the tang - Note: picture shows a blank filler but I later put the folding sight back on.) • Tang - MarbleRossi 1892 Peep Tang Sight - Brownells' p/n. 579-009-807WB (made specifically for your Rossi '92) or Lyman No. 2 1892 Peep Tang Sight – Brownells' p/n. 539-050-002WB (Made for Winchester 1892s) • Screws -Marble Peep Tang Sight Screw Set (Rossi) - Brownells' p/n. 579-000-101WB (Marbles p/n 995002, again, specifically for your Rossi '92) Note: The Rossi rifles (both 20" short and 24" bbl) are already D&T for the front tang sight screw so all you have to do is screw them on. Use the existing front and rear sight to line the tang sight up, then remove the front sight and use the rear and tang to line the new one up. Finally, remove the rear sight and use the front and tang to line the folding new one up. If the OP has the carbine, then a Marbles semi-buckhorn rear and 1/16" brass bead front sight is a great set. I added them to my 357mag carbine. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2830.jpg I got the Marble sights at Brownells: • Front -Marble 45-MR 1/16" Gold Front Sight - Marbles p/n 504521, Brownells' p/n. 579-504-521WB • Rear- Marble #64 Dovetail Semi-Buckhorn Rear, Short Shank- Brownells' p/n. 579-064-001 Note: Rossis have a metric dovetail that's a bit wider than an American cut so either you get the metric dovetail (as in the Lyman globe) or you'll need to take a cold chisel and strike a few groves in the bottom of the sight's dovetail edges to spread out the bottom edges a bit so the sights will fit tight (do not strike the dovetail in the barrel). View Quote Thank you for that post! You saved me a lot of searching and time!!!! |
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I have the same gun and I love it. One of, if not my absolute favorite gun to shoot. Almost no recoil, and almost silent with regular WWB 130gr ammo. I'm partial to red dots (can't stand tang sights). I youtube'd some videos as well, and did the usual stuff to slick it up a bit. Assembly is far trickier than the Glocks and ARs that I'm used to, but if you take your time it's not too bad. View Quote Nice rifle! Thanks for the heads up, I've worked on a cz75, Baikal 220 sxs shotgun, ar-15's, glocks, cerakote etc... I watched a few videos and it seems pretty straight forward. Glad I bought the Rossi instead of the Henry. While the Henry is built nice and can take optics I don't like the loading up front. I like to tinker and it seems Rossi is a tinkering man's gun! |
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While the barrel mounted rear sight is fine, you'll lose 2 advantages with the tang. First, the sight radius increase associated with the tang is huge. On my rifle, the sight radius is 30" and that helps accuracy a ton. Second, and more important if you're eyesight isn't allowing you to see the front sight as clearly as you once did, is having a small aperture very close to your eye increases your Depth of Field dramatically. I've got old eyes, progressive glasses, and astigmatisms but even though I look through the 'far' part of the glasses when sighting, peering through the .042" target aperture allows me to see both the front sight post and target (even 100-300yds away) clearly. It's the principle behind the fact that with a pin hole camera, everything is in focus. Something else to consider.
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This was the setup I was thinking about. I like the idea of keeping the safety towards the rear. Front Lyman Globe http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mnLj71-xKefw0egY_eCJ4bA.jpg View Quote |
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While the barrel mounted rear sight is fine, you'll lose 2 advantages with the tang. First, the sight radius increase associated with the tang is huge. On my rifle, the sight radius is 30" and that helps accuracy a ton. Second, and more important if you're eyesight isn't allowing you to see the front sight as clearly as you once did, is having a small aperture very close to your eye increases your Depth of Field dramatically. I've got old eyes, progressive glasses, and astigmatisms but even though I look through the 'far' part of the glasses when sighting, peering through the .042" target aperture allows me to see both the front sight post and target (even 100-300yds away) clearly. It's the principle behind the fact that with a pin hole camera, everything is in focus. Something else to consider. View Quote Very Good points! I'm a middle ground kind of guy. What sight setup would you recommend that is in the middle between fast shooting and long sight radius accuracy? Basically a jack of all trades sight setup (master of none) that gives me more precision than the stock sights but faster target accusation than the rear tang setup? Is such a setup possible? I know Stevesgunz.com has a rear sight you can put over the safety and with the Lyman front globe sight it might be a combo between fast and accurate? |
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Consider a Lee Shaver Insert Set for Lyman 17A combo card – Brownells' p/n. 781-100-017. The Lyman inserts are very thick and poorly made while the LeeShaver set is much better. http://cdn-us-cf2.yottaa.net/53ff2f503c881650e20004c9/www.brownells.com/v~13.71/userdocs/products/p_781100017_1.jpg?yocs=p_&yoloc=us View Quote Will do! Thanks! |
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Buffalo Arms has this Peabody Sight--copy of the old Pacific/Lyman receiver sight--dead sexy, and a little faster than a folding tang sight. This photo is of a 95 Winchester but they make it for all the Winchester Models including the 92. |
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I saw one of these locally, and if I had had the money, it would have been mine!!! I really liked it.
http://www.guns.com/review/gun-review-mossberg-464-spx-tactical-lever-action-30-30-video/ |
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Very Good points! I'm a middle ground kind of guy. What sight setup would you recommend that is in the middle between fast shooting and long sight radius accuracy? Basically a jack of all trades sight setup (master of none) that gives me more precision than the stock sights but faster target accusation than the rear tang setup? Is such a setup possible? I know Stevesgunz.com has a rear sight you can put over the safety and with the Lyman front globe sight it might be a combo between fast and accurate? View Quote |
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Very Good points! I'm a middle ground kind of guy. What sight setup would you recommend that is in the middle between fast shooting and long sight radius accuracy? Basically a jack of all trades sight setup (master of none) that gives me more precision than the stock sights but faster target accusation than the rear tang setup? Is such a setup possible? I know Stevesgunz.com has a rear sight you can put over the safety and with the Lyman front globe sight it might be a combo between fast and accurate? Will cost $100-200 for a smith to drill and tap a mount on the barrel. I'll go that route when my eyes get worse in the coming years. If I'm still allowed to own arms in a California. |
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Will cost $100-200 for a smith to drill and tap a mount on the barrel. I'll go that route when my eyes get worse in the coming years. If I'm still allowed to own arms in a California. View Quote Or,use one of these. scope mount |
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If the OP bought the Rifle or Short Rifle setup with the octagon barrel, the tang is d&t for the tang sight from the factory. If he bought the carbine then it's not. The Marbles tang and Lyman globe front sight is a slick setup, especially when using the target aperture. I use mine to shoot my 158grn full power 357mag handloads at steel plates at 300yds. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2840.jpg Here is what I used on my 24” Rifle. I really like this setup and I hope this information helps: (Note: in the picture above I'd removed the rear sight, however, I have since added it back.) I got the sights at Brownells: • Front - Lyman Globe front sight model 17A - Brownells' p/n. 539-017-444WB (metric dovetail) • 1ea LeeShaver Insert Set for Lyman 17A combo card – Brownells' p/n. 781-100-017 (I use the small post) • Or – 1eaMarbles 45MR 1/16” Brass Bead front sight Marbles p/n 604521, Brownells' p/n. 579-604-521WB • Rear - MarbleFolding Sporting Rear Sight No. 95 - Brownells' p/n. 579-000-082 (you need a folding one so it doesn't block the tang - Note: picture shows a blank filler but I later put the folding sight back on.) • Tang - MarbleRossi 1892 Peep Tang Sight - Brownells' p/n. 579-009-807WB (made specifically for your Rossi '92) or Lyman No. 2 1892 Peep Tang Sight – Brownells' p/n. 539-050-002WB (Made for Winchester 1892s) • Screws -Marble Peep Tang Sight Screw Set (Rossi) - Brownells' p/n. 579-000-101WB (Marbles p/n 995002, again, specifically for your Rossi '92) Note: The Rossi rifles (both 20" short and 24" bbl) are already D&T for the front tang sight screw so all you have to do is screw them on. Use the existing front and rear sight to line the tang sight up, then remove the front sight and use the rear and tang to line the new one up. Finally, remove the rear sight and use the front and tang to line the folding new one up. If the OP has the carbine, then a Marbles semi-buckhorn rear and 1/16" brass bead front sight is a great set. I added them to my 357mag carbine. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2830.jpg I got the Marble sights at Brownells: • Front -Marble 45-MR 1/16" Gold Front Sight - Marbles p/n 504521, Brownells' p/n. 579-504-521WB • Rear- Marble #64 Dovetail Semi-Buckhorn Rear, Short Shank- Brownells' p/n. 579-064-001 Note: Rossis have a metric dovetail that's a bit wider than an American cut so either you get the metric dovetail (as in the Lyman globe) or you'll need to take a cold chisel and strike a few groves in the bottom of the sight's dovetail edges to spread out the bottom edges a bit so the sights will fit tight (do not strike the dovetail in the barrel). View Quote Not to derail this thread, but i guess it is along the same lines. What kind of accuracy do you get from your rifle with the tang sight? |
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I'm a middle ground kind of guy. What sight setup would you recommend that is in the middle between fast shooting and long sight radius accuracy? Basically a jack of all trades sight setup (master of none) that gives me more precision than the stock sights but faster target accusation than the rear tang setup? Is such a setup possible? View Quote You can get different aperture sizes from Marbles - .102", .055" and .032", and the larger aperture allows for more field of view for short ranges (and the larger apertures are in 1/2" discs rather than 3/4") and more light in low light conditions. However, if you don't install any aperture at all, you have a ghost ring rear aperture which is as fast as it gets for short range shooting. I know they are popular, but frankly, I wouldn't bother with a receiver mounted aperture sight as they offer no upsides compared to a good tang sight and adjustable aperture, and have some sharp downsides in terms of both accuracy and windage and elevation adjustments. I also would not recommend a scope or a red dot sight, as they ruin the lines and handling of the rifle. A Burris fast Fire three is a *possible* exception. I have one on an Uzi Carbine and it's low profile and quite accurate compared to most red dot sights. Many of the Rossi 92s have 4 holes already drilled and tapped under the barrel mounted rear sight, so mounting one in place of the rear sight would be fairly simple and low cost. |
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With a Marbles Standard Tang Sight, Merit Adjustable Aperture, 17AHB front sight and Lee Shaver inserts I get 2.5" five shot groups at 100 yards with both hand loaded 125 gr XTPs and factory loaded Federal 158 gr JSP. ----- I have Rossi 92s in .357 Magnum in both the 24" rifle and a 20" rifle patterns. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/Lever%20Action%20Rifles/2724DAFF-F3D6-4EDF-BDFA-223A2FFA3CAF_zpsjhkbfury.jpg The 24" is blued: http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/Lever%20Action%20Rifles/EB8C1761-F8E2-4DA8-BF58-7044CCD0E76B_zpsk6vzp6ja.jpg The 20" is color case hardened: http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/Lever%20Action%20Rifles/6FE0033F-FDFC-4E14-B94D-723FE3D64898_zpsvjfjrbzj.jpg Both of them are I set up the same way with a Marbles Standard Tang sight and a Lyman 17AHB front. The actual adjustment of the rear sights varies a bit with the sight radius but with both the 20" barrel (26" sight radius) and 24" barrel (30" sight radius) the windage and elevation are close enough to .4 MOA that it doesn't make any practical difference. there is 8 clicks per turn which moves the windage and elevation 3.2" at 100 yards. I use a "left hand rule" to remember which way to turn the adjustment knob to move the sight in the right direction. Basically, you hold out your left hand, curl your fingers, stick your thumb to the side point it in the direction you want the rear sight (and the point of impact) to move. Then turn the windage or elevation knob in the direction your fingers are moving. It's the opposite of the "right hand rule" you use with adjustments on scope turrets (except Soviet scopes which use the left hand rule). The Lee Shaver inserts are much better than the Lyman inserts and are worth getting. I also use the Merit #3 and #4 adjustable apertures. These apertures are finger adjustable from 0.022" to 0.125" in 11 steps and work great to give you the ideal amount of light for optimum depth of field. The #3 is the "target" and is a bit larger in outside diameter than the #4, which is the "field". http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/B64FA364-953B-4E73-A9EF-AB3B484ED811_zpscdnhvaao.jpghttp://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/1C161582-31E2-4C93-BACF-239F571314B7_zpsvfehduhr.jpg View Quote Thanks for the post but my Rossi does not have both holes to mount the rear tang sight. You do have some beauts though! |
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I also noticed the safety never worked so I'll be replacing the safety with the rear sight offered at stevesgunz or just go the red dot method as described below.
I also noticed in the last few months my eyes are having trouble focusing on front/rear iron sights. Talked to an eye doctor yesterday and she said the muscle that helps you focus in and out starts to go out in your late 30's early 40's and I'm 39 so I just might save the money on irons (eyes won't get better so why waste the money?)and buy a red dot. I have a Burris fastfire on a ruger 22/45 and I don't shoot .22 often as I try to save it for my kids so maybe use the fastfire II on my Rossi? |
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Update pic in OP. Looks like the chamber is oversized. View Quote Send it, and one of the spent pieces of brass to the factory. Stuff happens. If they make good, no harm, now foul. Things like this are why I will only buy American made firearms. No hassles dealing with an importer. Likely all an importer can do is send you another rifle. |
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Send it, and one of the spent pieces of brass to the factory. Stuff happens. If they make good, no harm, now foul. Things like this are why I will only buy American made firearms. No hassles dealing with an importer. Likely all an importer can do is send you another rifle. View Quote I sent it back yesterday. Rossi does work on stuff at their Miami HQ. As long as they make it right I'm a happy camper. I agree on Made IN USA but for lever actions it's slim pickings. I could have chanced it with a Remlin but I know their QC is worse and they do not have a lever action in 357mag. I loved the Henry Big Boy Steel but I deteste the front loading. Especially with kids I don't like putting my hand over or around the muzzle to unload the gun. So I took a chance, lost round 1, hopefully Rossi will make it right then I'll be content. |
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Unfortunately the 92 scope mount was discontinued and is hard to find now. NOE makes a picatinny rail but it looks pretty tall. View Quote Bought mine from Rossi a few months ago... http://www.rossiusa.com/accessories-scope.cfm |
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Unfortunately the 92 scope mount was discontinued and is hard to find now. NOE makes a picatinny rail but it looks pretty tall. Bought mine from Rossi a few months ago... http://www.rossiusa.com/accessories-scope.cfm Bought mine from Rossi on Sunday, will arrive tomorrow. |
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Rifle was fixed and is being shipped back today or tomorrow.
Notes says the barrel was swapped out. Hope they headspace it. It arrived March 1st to Rossi. So about a 4 week turnaround. Unless they broke something else. |
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Ah... you had the really rare .39spl/.367mag chambering. Super rare. And you sent it back to be rebarreled in some common caliber...
Hopefully they got you sorted... my BIL bought one and after a quick in-home action job it slicked up nicely and is actually a pretty nice gun. I have an old Marlin and his is just as accurate and almost as slick after a few years of wear. |
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Ah... you had the really rare .39spl/.367mag chambering. Super rare. And you sent it back to be rebarreled in some common caliber... Hopefully they got you sorted... my BIL bought one and after a quick in-home action job it slicked up nicely and is actually a pretty nice gun. I have an old Marlin and his is just as accurate and almost as slick after a few years of wear. View Quote |
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Good to hear Rossi stepped up and fixed the issue!! Fun little rifles when right
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Nice to hear Rossi made everything right. Now I just have to find a dealer who has one in stock.
Beautiful range! Santa Ynez Valley? |
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