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Posted: 7/19/2013 10:58:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2013 12:36:25 AM EDT by poorman]
Does anyone know how to get hold of Honey Creek Industries? There are going to start making US made SIG PE57's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTb_edw8NE

Edit: I am in contact with him now.



Link Posted: 7/19/2013 9:13:24 PM EDT
It's ugly as sin, but I want it!
Link Posted: 7/21/2013 2:27:35 PM EDT
Estimates Price?

Arethey going to do 308 builds?

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Link Posted: 7/21/2013 2:55:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dawg180:
Estimates Price?

Arethey going to do 308 builds?

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The video is of him shooting the .308 version
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 12:39:01 PM EDT
Please update if you find out a price.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 12:48:13 PM EDT
The maker must be very busy, I have not heard anything about price or when they might be available.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 7:52:39 PM EDT
Doesn't say if it has the loaded chamber indicator, not that it matters that much.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:13:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cool-e:
Doesn't say if it has the loaded chamber indicator, not that it matters that much.
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It uses original Sig parts minus the sheet metal receiver so it should.
Link Posted: 7/23/2013 12:00:58 PM EDT
Update:

I just spoke to Mike Adams of Mag Arms, he makes a repair section for the STGW 57. He does not make and sell rifles, he will assemble your parts kit with his receiver section and new .308 barrel for around $1300.00, or $375 less if your kit has original barrel. He told me that he is booked up with builds until about mid-August at the moment. You can get a kit from either Apex or Colorado Gun Supplies(they do not come with barrel).

Mag Arms
Mike Murray
3019 Keller Hicks Rd
Bldg. 402
Ft. Worth TX 76244
mike@magarms.com
972-768-0652
07 FFL Manufacturer
Link Posted: 8/4/2013 10:56:36 AM EDT
WHOOO HOOOO! I have always wanted a PE57 and here is my chance. Poorman, I am calling them Monday but what is your take on it. Does he seem squared away and prepared to do business? I know you do not know him personally, just asking for your opinion based on your conversation with him.
I had Project Guns build a RPD for me while he moved from his old shop to his new one and it was like pulling teeth! For months it was always " two more weeks and it will be ready" when it was done it was great and runs trouble free. Just hope to not go through that again.
Link Posted: 8/4/2013 2:38:01 PM EDT
In my opinion, yes, he seemed very squared away. I have also checked a few other forums and he has a good reputation on them as a stand up guy, and I have not seen any bad feedback on his builds. I will be getting my kit from APEX this week and will send it to him when he says he is ready.
Link Posted: 8/4/2013 5:58:55 PM EDT
Thanks Poorman, I will contact him tomorrow and it sounds like I will also be calling Apex.
Link Posted: 8/5/2013 11:19:08 AM EDT
Any source for magazines?
Link Posted: 8/5/2013 1:35:03 PM EDT
http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.
Link Posted: 8/5/2013 3:32:39 PM EDT
Poorman,

Thanks for all of your research and groundwork. I just spoke with Mike about scheduling a build and just ordered a parts kit from APEX. Mike was mentioning that his build times are now out to early December.

Thanks again,

Roger
Link Posted: 8/6/2013 1:15:59 AM EDT
That sucks, but, I want one so I can wait until Dec
Link Posted: 8/6/2013 1:26:53 PM EDT
Take my money !!!
Link Posted: 8/6/2013 2:22:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By poorman:
http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.
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Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...
Link Posted: 8/6/2013 3:20:35 PM EDT
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Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...
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Originally Posted By poorman:
http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.



Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...


I spoke to someone in Switzerland who told me that they are about 15 Swiss Francs there! I am looking into getting some
Link Posted: 8/6/2013 6:43:39 PM EDT
Any word if he is planning on doing AMT builds?

I have a friend with an excellent/complete parts kit.

Wpns Man
Link Posted: 8/6/2013 10:49:15 PM EDT
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Any word if he is planning on doing AMT builds?

I have a friend with an excellent/complete parts kit.

Wpns Man
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His receiver section will work on the AMT/510-4 as well. Give him a call.
Link Posted: 8/8/2013 7:21:49 PM EDT
Thanks,

I will forward this on........

Wpns Man
Link Posted: 8/9/2013 10:53:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/9/2013 10:55:11 AM EDT by Dodger_San]
Let me know about the mags from Europe if you are able to get some. It looks like I'll be needing some around the first of next year.

I just got my Apex kit and am sending it down to Mike at Mag Arms.
Link Posted: 8/13/2013 6:48:57 PM EDT
Poorman,

If you can get up a group buy on mags I am in. When I ordered my kit from Apex the guy I was talking to said Apex is looking into getting some mags. Maybe if you have a contact you could put your guy with Apex if a licensed importer is needed for magazines.
Link Posted: 8/13/2013 11:15:21 PM EDT
There are a few people working on getting mags from a few different places, so I expect someone will get them in
Link Posted: 8/20/2013 11:22:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/20/2013 11:26:02 PM EDT by handym3000]
this would be a awesome gun to own
Link Posted: 9/6/2013 5:20:54 PM EDT
Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.
Link Posted: 9/6/2013 5:38:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoom6zoom:
Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.
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Amen to this, the PE57 in 7.5x55 is my unicorn rifle, I've wanted one forever and never thought I would get the chance to own one, I've got to get in contact with this place
Link Posted: 9/6/2013 6:34:19 PM EDT
$2K for a PE57 in 762x51 seems like a good price. Don't like paying $100.00 for mags. But someone should be able to import mags at a reasonable price.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 12:27:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoom6zoom:
Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.
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You can have it built in either 7.5 Swiss or 308. I am having mine done in 7.5 Swiss as I have got hold of a 510-4 kit that I am having built as well
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 3:55:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2013 3:57:02 PM EDT by zoom6zoom]
That is my thought as well. I already have other Swiss rifles, and the ammo isn't any more expensive or harder to find than .308 these days. Plus I'm a SIG nut and tend to be a purist in my collecting so original is a great way to go. I'm also figuring there won't be a lot of these in country, and fewer in the Swiss caliber.

Sounds like you already talked to him. Was pricing the same on either caliber? .308 cartridge has a smaller base, so I was wondering if he had to do bolt mods for that one.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 7:02:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoom6zoom:
That is my thought as well. I already have other Swiss rifles, and the ammo isn't any more expensive or harder to find than .308 these days. Plus I'm a SIG nut and tend to be a purist in my collecting so original is a great way to go. I'm also figuring there won't be a lot of these in country, and fewer in the Swiss caliber.

Sounds like you already talked to him. Was pricing the same on either caliber? .308 cartridge has a smaller base, so I was wondering if he had to do bolt mods for that one.
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Yes, I believe price is the same. He does have to modify the bolt head to fit 308.
Link Posted: 9/16/2013 12:15:29 PM EDT
Just got my 510-4 kit in!

Link Posted: 9/16/2013 2:19:38 PM EDT
anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?
Link Posted: 9/16/2013 2:36:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jimlostt:
anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?
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Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.
Link Posted: 9/18/2013 12:06:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By poorman:
Originally Posted By jimlostt:
anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?
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Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.
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Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.


Link Posted: 9/18/2013 11:35:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jimlostt:


Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.


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Originally Posted By poorman:
Originally Posted By jimlostt:
anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?


Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.


Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.





Shoot me a PM I'll buy that 7.5 barrel!
Link Posted: 9/18/2013 7:39:29 PM EDT
dang, I shouldn't have hit the snooze button.
Link Posted: 9/23/2013 5:01:16 AM EDT
Poorman, by chance do you have Mag Arms barrels contact info? If so, please P/M me since I want to see if they can make a custom Sig barrel for me. THANKS!!
Link Posted: 9/23/2013 11:47:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bergunx:
Poorman, by chance do you have Mag Arms barrels contact info? If so, please P/M me since I want to see if they can make a custom Sig barrel for me. THANKS!!
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PM sent
Link Posted: 10/12/2013 2:33:37 PM EDT
I would like that information also, please.
Link Posted: 10/14/2013 3:26:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By poorman:
Does anyone know how to get hold of Honey Creek Industries? There are going to start making US made SIG PE57's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTb_edw8NE

Edit: I am in contact with him now.



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Cool rifle. Is the presenter in the video blind?
Link Posted: 11/19/2013 7:50:11 PM EDT
Any updates from Mike about rifles being built? I have a PE57 kit with him but have been in Haiti for the past two months and was just wondering if anyone has heard anything?
Link Posted: 11/19/2013 9:34:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dixiedog1980:
Any updates from Mike about rifles being built? I have a PE57 kit with him but have been in Haiti for the past two months and was just wondering if anyone has heard anything?
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Mike told me my kit was on schedule to be ready at the end of this month, I will post pics when my receiver arrives. I will be sending my 510-4 to him when I get my '57 receiver back
Link Posted: 11/28/2013 1:44:41 AM EDT
This looks good
Link Posted: 12/9/2013 6:36:54 AM EDT
I spoke with Mike last week. His day job is taking up a lot of his time and he has been sick. He feels better now but it sounds like it will be awhile before we see our guns. No need to worry yet, just going to take a little longer is what it sounds like.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 8:52:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2013 8:53:49 PM EDT by poorman]
Yes, I got that impression as well. Not a big deal to me I have been waiting for decades, a few more weeks/months are not going to kill me If anyone is interested I have found someone else doing some building these rifles from kits, price is MUCH higher but the work is good.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:26:46 AM EDT
this is on my list for next year to own. i so have wanted one of these for many years

308 win would be the caliber for me in this case. makes it easier to load for and i have a crap load of brass

how hard are these guns on brass?

what is the recommened bullet weight

what twist is he supplying with this build
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 2:48:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By handym3000:
this is on my list for next year to own. i so have wanted one of these for many years

308 win would be the caliber for me in this case. makes it easier to load for and i have a crap load of brass

how hard are these guns on brass?

what is the recommened bullet weight

what twist is he supplying with this build
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Due to the fluted chamber it is not recommended to reload brass fired from one of these rifles, it chews it up pretty good. But, I have heard of people reloading it anyway.

Here is what a factory STGW 57 barrel does to a brass case:
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 10:01:39 PM EDT
what about the barrels he is using. are they fluted chambers, or regular cut?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 4:39:07 PM EDT
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what about the barrels he is using. are they fluted chambers, or regular cut?
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Fluted
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