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Posted: 7/19/2013 9:58:42 AM EST
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Does anyone know how to get hold of Honey Creek Industries? There are going to start making US made SIG PE57's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTb_edw8NE

Edit: I am in contact with him now.



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Posted: 7/19/2013 8:13:24 PM EST
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Posted: 7/21/2013 1:27:35 PM EST
Estimates Price?

Arethey going to do 308 builds?

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Posted: 7/22/2013 11:39:01 AM EST
Please update if you find out a price.
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Posted: 7/22/2013 11:48:13 AM EST
The maker must be very busy, I have not heard anything about price or when they might be available.
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Posted: 7/22/2013 6:52:39 PM EST
Doesn't say if it has the loaded chamber indicator, not that it matters that much.
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Posted: 7/22/2013 8:13:41 PM EST
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It uses original Sig parts minus the sheet metal receiver so it should.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 11:00:58 AM EST
Update:

I just spoke to Mike Adams of Mag Arms, he makes a repair section for the STGW 57. He does not make and sell rifles, he will assemble your parts kit with his receiver section and new .308 barrel for around $1300.00, or $375 less if your kit has original barrel. He told me that he is booked up with builds until about mid-August at the moment. You can get a kit from either Apex or Colorado Gun Supplies(they do not come with barrel).

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:56:36 AM EST
WHOOO HOOOO! I have always wanted a PE57 and here is my chance. Poorman, I am calling them Monday but what is your take on it. Does he seem squared away and prepared to do business? I know you do not know him personally, just asking for your opinion based on your conversation with him.
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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:38:01 PM EST
In my opinion, yes, he seemed very squared away. I have also checked a few other forums and he has a good reputation on them as a stand up guy, and I have not seen any bad feedback on his builds. I will be getting my kit from APEX this week and will send it to him when he says he is ready.
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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:58:55 PM EST
Thanks Poorman, I will contact him tomorrow and it sounds like I will also be calling Apex.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 10:19:08 AM EST
Any source for magazines?
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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:35:03 PM EST
http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:32:39 PM EST
Poorman,

Thanks for all of your research and groundwork. I just spoke with Mike about scheduling a build and just ordered a parts kit from APEX. Mike was mentioning that his build times are now out to early December.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:15:59 AM EST
That sucks, but, I want one so I can wait until Dec
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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:26:53 PM EST
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http://www.cogunsales.com/index.php/Magazines/Swiss-Army-SIG-PE57-Magazine-24-Rd/flypage.pbv.v1.tpl.html

I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.
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Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...
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Typical CO Gun Sales prices, LOL...

Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...
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I am sure you can get some from a European source, they are not that rare over there. I will be looking.



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Maybe Numrich or Sarco has them a touch cheaper...


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Posted: 8/6/2013 5:43:39 PM EST
Any word if he is planning on doing AMT builds?

I have a friend with an excellent/complete parts kit.

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His receiver section will work on the AMT/510-4 as well. Give him a call.
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Posted: 8/8/2013 6:21:49 PM EST
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Posted: 8/9/2013 9:53:16 AM EST
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Let me know about the mags from Europe if you are able to get some. It looks like I'll be needing some around the first of next year.

I just got my Apex kit and am sending it down to Mike at Mag Arms.
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Posted: 8/13/2013 5:48:57 PM EST
Poorman,

If you can get up a group buy on mags I am in. When I ordered my kit from Apex the guy I was talking to said Apex is looking into getting some mags. Maybe if you have a contact you could put your guy with Apex if a licensed importer is needed for magazines.
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Posted: 8/13/2013 10:15:21 PM EST
There are a few people working on getting mags from a few different places, so I expect someone will get them in
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Posted: 9/6/2013 4:20:54 PM EST
Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.
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Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.
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Posted: 9/6/2013 5:34:19 PM EST
$2K for a PE57 in 762x51 seems like a good price. Don't like paying $100.00 for mags. But someone should be able to import mags at a reasonable price.
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Subscribed! I have an Apex kit, they are pretty nice. 1300 isn't out of line for a build of this nature especially considering the barrel. Will be checking with him to see if they are only .308 builds; I would prefer to keep the Swiss caliber if possible.
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You can have it built in either 7.5 Swiss or 308. I am having mine done in 7.5 Swiss as I have got hold of a 510-4 kit that I am having built as well
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Posted: 9/7/2013 2:55:51 PM EST
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That is my thought as well. I already have other Swiss rifles, and the ammo isn't any more expensive or harder to find than .308 these days. Plus I'm a SIG nut and tend to be a purist in my collecting so original is a great way to go. I'm also figuring there won't be a lot of these in country, and fewer in the Swiss caliber.

Sounds like you already talked to him. Was pricing the same on either caliber? .308 cartridge has a smaller base, so I was wondering if he had to do bolt mods for that one.
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That is my thought as well. I already have other Swiss rifles, and the ammo isn't any more expensive or harder to find than .308 these days. Plus I'm a SIG nut and tend to be a purist in my collecting so original is a great way to go. I'm also figuring there won't be a lot of these in country, and fewer in the Swiss caliber.

Sounds like you already talked to him. Was pricing the same on either caliber? .308 cartridge has a smaller base, so I was wondering if he had to do bolt mods for that one.
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Yes, I believe price is the same. He does have to modify the bolt head to fit 308.
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Just got my 510-4 kit in!

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anybody have a clue what a 7.5 original barrel is going for these days?
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Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.
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Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.


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Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.


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Mag Arms is making them for $375.00, I have not seen an original Swiss barrel that was not attached to a kit.


Just wondering since my build will be in 308 and my kit currently has a 7.5 barrel on it. i plan on selling it to recover the cost. I already have a pile of 7.5 mags but sincce Mike says the 7.5 mags work fine in the 308 conversion I am not going to go nuts not having the correct mag. I already have a plan for a spacer for the mags as it is anyway.





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Posted: 9/23/2013 4:01:16 AM EST
Poorman, by chance do you have Mag Arms barrels contact info? If so, please P/M me since I want to see if they can make a custom Sig barrel for me. THANKS!!
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Poorman, by chance do you have Mag Arms barrels contact info? If so, please P/M me since I want to see if they can make a custom Sig barrel for me. THANKS!!
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I would like that information also, please.
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Posted: 10/14/2013 2:26:16 AM EST
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Does anyone know how to get hold of Honey Creek Industries? There are going to start making US made SIG PE57's:

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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:50:11 PM EST
Any updates from Mike about rifles being built? I have a PE57 kit with him but have been in Haiti for the past two months and was just wondering if anyone has heard anything?
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Mike told me my kit was on schedule to be ready at the end of this month, I will post pics when my receiver arrives. I will be sending my 510-4 to him when I get my '57 receiver back
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Posted: 12/9/2013 5:36:54 AM EST
I spoke with Mike last week. His day job is taking up a lot of his time and he has been sick. He feels better now but it sounds like it will be awhile before we see our guns. No need to worry yet, just going to take a little longer is what it sounds like.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:52:26 PM EST
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Yes, I got that impression as well. Not a big deal to me I have been waiting for decades, a few more weeks/months are not going to kill me If anyone is interested I have found someone else doing some building these rifles from kits, price is MUCH higher but the work is good.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 10:26:46 AM EST
this is on my list for next year to own. i so have wanted one of these for many years

308 win would be the caliber for me in this case. makes it easier to load for and i have a crap load of brass

how hard are these guns on brass?

what is the recommened bullet weight

what twist is he supplying with this build
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Posted: 12/12/2013 1:48:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By handym3000:
this is on my list for next year to own. i so have wanted one of these for many years

308 win would be the caliber for me in this case. makes it easier to load for and i have a crap load of brass

how hard are these guns on brass?

what is the recommened bullet weight

what twist is he supplying with this build
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Due to the fluted chamber it is not recommended to reload brass fired from one of these rifles, it chews it up pretty good. But, I have heard of people reloading it anyway.

Here is what a factory STGW 57 barrel does to a brass case:
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Posted: 12/13/2013 9:01:39 PM EST
what about the barrels he is using. are they fluted chambers, or regular cut?
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:39:07 PM EST
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what about the barrels he is using. are they fluted chambers, or regular cut?
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Fluted
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