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It seems they have worked the bugs, and this rifle is next on my list.
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I think it safe to say the bugs are indeed worked out. I expected at least one or two incidents breaking it in but had no events throughout our shooting session. We ran VTAC drills most of the day and it ran hot throughout. Gloves were a requirement on the foreend.
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And on top of everything else they are accurate. I've fired some handloads that grouped at 1.25" at 100. Mine east anything and has owrked with all AK mags both steel and ploy. Mine came with a Bulgarian ploy mag that worked fine. I do have a few Tapco mags and they work fine as well. They even worked in my Yugo AK. SAv ethat Yugo brass as it is hot and accurate. I'm buying one mor ecase of it for spares.
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Good to know. Mine is still awaiting some sort of sight and some range time.
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Are there any type of factory back up sights,I dont see any in the pic?
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Are there any type of factory back up sights,I dont see any in the pic? It comes with the rear fold-down leaf sight in the rail, but the front is an empty dovetail. |
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Are there any type of factory back up sights,I dont see any in the pic? It comes with the rear fold-down leaf sight in the rail, but the front is an empty dovetail. thank you sir |
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I have been really fighting off selling my 556 SWAT and buying one of these. I have plenty of 5.56 rifles but no 7.62x39. I love the Sig action and feel. Might be the best of both worlds.
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I mentioned this on another forum and its worth mentioning here......
You have two very different suppressor adapters you can use for each application. (AAC) I failed to mention that earlier. If you get the hump at the end reduced it will allow you to utilize the thread the rifle came with 5/8-24. However, if you choose to cut it down to 14.5 and have it pinned it is a different adapter due to the fact you are using a small diameter barrel portion once it has been cut back. So for a cut and pinned 14.5 you would use a 9/16-24. You should keep this in mind when ordering your adapters for an AAC. |
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Tell us about that thing inside the trigger guard, right behind the trigger. Looks like some sort of trigger stop. Looks really flimsy. What is it made of? What does it (thread?) into? Does it adjust? Is a special tool required to adjust it? Does it have the potential to unscrew itself? http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/556R-R1-detail.jpg The black piece you are referring to allows you to adjust when the second stage of the trigger engages. Sadly there is no way to adjust over-travel on the 556 It appears to be steel and not flimsy. I don't know any specs on it. It is not a piece the gets beat around much. The black hex bolt threads through a locknut on the other side of the trigger guard and into a captured spring system. It only requires a set of small wrenches to adjust. With the locknut it is highly unlikely to come loose. The whole assembly can be spun without affecting the adjustment. The 556R has a really long trigger pull. Mine came with the second stage being very long. I screwed the black bolt in so the trigger had 1-2 mm of take-up before the shot would break. I really like the trigger now. I hope this makes sense. Let me know and I'll try to clarify. Neal |
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I may have to cobble together some sort of magnification if I want to hit anything at 300 yards. A big reason I plan on utilizing a TA33 on this rifle. Great post, thanks. |
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I may have to cobble together some sort of magnification if I want to hit anything at 300 yards. A big reason I plan on utilizing a TA33 on this rifle. Great post, thanks. I'm not sure I want to invest that much in a caliber-specific optic for what will probably not be a serious use rifle, but it may get a Millett DMS or something. |
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Thanks for the info about the bolt behind the trigger.
At the risk of sounding like I'm nit-picking, tell me about the plastic thing on the cocking handle. Does the little plastic part on the cocking handle come off easily? Is there a purpose for it coming off? (i.e. necessary for removal of bolt carrier?) Is it just a decoration? If I pull it off and drop it in the snow, will the rifle still be operable? If the plastic knob is missing, does the shooter just have some small stub to try to manipulate the bolt? Should I just JB-Weld it in place so it won't get lost? |
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I don't have it in front of me right now, but I got the impression the bolt knob is just a plastic cover over a steel part. I know the base of it is steel.
You have to remove it to remove the bolt. It also locks the bolt to the operating rod, so the rifle probably won't operate without it. |
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Not sure if mine is different from ken_mays but the charging handle is just a metal part with a rubber/plastic cover. Cover is there to make it easier on the fingers. If the plastic falls off theres still plenty of metal to grab to charge the weapon. However its molded on there pretty good.
The entire charging handle is removed to remove the bolt, not just the plastic cover. Thats what the black metal lever on the bolt carrier is for behind the charging handle. You push down on it to pull out the charing handle. The charging handle attaches inside to the gas piston op rod. Its what locks the bolt carrier to the op rod. Without the charging handle the rifle would be a single shot with no good way to charge it. |
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OK, so to be sure, if I drop the rifle and the plastic thing on the charging handle smashes into many pieces, the functional capability of the rifle is not compromised.
Yes? |
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OK, so to be sure, if I drop the rifle and the plastic thing on the charging handle smashes into many pieces, the functional capability of the rifle is not compromised. Yes? Correct. It's like the rubber cover on a pair of pliers. |
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Thanks.
While I was thinking about this, I took the time to use the Googles and I see there are several vids that deal with the charging handle to varying degrees. There is an aftermarket handle that has a lower angle of protrusion (and no plastic cover). Any thoughts on the aftermarket charging handle? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOmuh6MN6Lg |
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Thanks. While I was thinking about this, I took the time to use the Googles and I see there are several vids that deal with the charging handle to varying degrees. There is an aftermarket handle that has a lower angle of protrusion (and no plastic cover). Any thoughts on the aftermarket charging handle? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOmuh6MN6Lg You better watch out before someone dips the chargers on all your rifles with this! There have been some threads on the Griffin charger before. It's good if you're trying to clear an EOTech, but I do believe folks had it tear up the rubber gasket in the upper receiver. Not an issue that'll shut a weapon down but it'll ugly it up a bit. |
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"Rubber gasket" in the upper receiver??? I'm afraid to ask. Do you know AKs? It is just to keep random junk out of the channel where the bolt handle moves. |
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Yeah, I get it.
That riveted-rubber-dust-sweep looks like something that belongs on a screen door more than a fighting-rifle, but hey... somebody must have thought it needed it. Maybe the same guy who chose the dainty "included optic." Did SIG really use SIX RIVETS to install a rubber dust-intrusion-inhibitor? I guess once it starts to go, and starts jamming the rifle, you bust out your multi-tool and carve whats left of this obstruction out of the operating channel? I really want this rifle to be a success. Still need to feel-out the issues before I spend over a grand on such a thing. |
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Well I believe they've put the cover in every 55x since the 550, so I believe its had a BIT of testing.
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Im sure you already know this, but just in case, that Yugo Brass is corrosive as all hell. Do a gas system flush with hot soapy water, repeat down the barrel, and you should be okay.
ETA, I bought a 556 Classic the other day, lubed it and fired 400 rounds out of it. I was sold. I REALLY like this rifle, alot.
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I looked at a 556 yesterday since the shop didn't have any 556R's. They said they had a couple but sold them recently.
I'm sort of torn between a 556R or a 716 right now. I know the 716 costs more and its a different design but it is a nice looking/feeling rifle. and its .308!! I don't own any 7.62X39 rifles right now so the 556R would be a "new" caliber for me. |
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That Yougo is really great ammo corrosive or not. Its hotter than everything else I've fired. And it fairly cheap.
I love my 556R. AK's dont fit me but teh 556R does just right. |
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Pardon the dumb question as I own a 556, but have never seen a 556R... Do they take standard AK mags?
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Pardon the dumb question as I own a 556, but have never seen a 556R... Do they take standard AK mags? Yup. That's the big selling point. Basicly a highly updated, extremely accurate, modern rifle that accepts AK magazines. The only mag it presently doesn't accept are the US Palm AK30 mags. They apparently can be dremeled to fit however. While you can't see the business end in this picture, you have the idea. Same as the 556. Tight fit (in comparison to an AK) comparable to an AR with two push pins to disassemble. Ambi safety in the same place as an AR just like the 556. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/johndal21/Shooting/44242_465375066819198_1739514801_n.jpg Are they offering it in 5.45? I'm going to have to look at the 7.62 version and dump my AKs |
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Not that I'm aware of. I would be interested is that as well.
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Just waiting for a 556R Patrol I got tired of waiting. About half way done with mine. |
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Just waiting for a 556R Patrol I got tired of waiting. About half way done with mine. Was reading about your efforts on SIG 556. Sweet! |
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Just waiting for a 556R Patrol I got tired of waiting. About half way done with mine. Are you giving the 556R a second chance? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Just waiting for a 556R Patrol I got tired of waiting. About half way done with mine. Are you giving the 556R a second chance? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep, Grabbed one of the new generation when it came into the shop. Ran a couple hundreds rounds of all the types of steel cased I had. Ran great. Now it is cut down to 9 inches. Just waiting to get the free time to devote to finishing it. |
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Do the AK mags operate the bolt hold open after the last shot?
On an optical note, you hunters may be interested in this scope. http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/posp/posp-4x24-rifle-scope-w-400-meter-rangefinder-weaver-version.html It is set up for 7.62x39 and has aiming points for 100, 200 and 300 meters. The height based range finder is set up to 1 meter (the average size of a standing deer) so you put the deer between the base line and the curve to determine its distance, and then aim and fire. I have this set up on one of my AK's I use for hunting and like it a lot. I have never used this particular scope model though, so I can't give you a first hand report. It may be worth looking into, because for its modest price you get a range finder, BDC aiming points, and illuminated retical. Brick |
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Just waiting for a 556R Patrol I got tired of waiting. About half way done with mine. Are you giving the 556R a second chance? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep, Grabbed one of the new generation when it came into the shop. Ran a couple hundreds rounds of all the types of steel cased I had. Ran great. Now it is cut down to 9 inches. Just waiting to get the free time to devote to finishing it. Glad to hear that they corrected the issues. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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How's the balance compared to the AK? I'm looking for something a little less front heavy.
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