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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:33:55 PM EDT
Just as the title states, what is the appropriate way to log sales of handguns/long-arms/etc… and suppressors/machine guns/etc… in a A&D log? I’m not talking about individual officers who have a letterhead, I’m talking about sales of the guns/suppressors to the agency for their official use.  Where is that covered in the regs? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.

Are the suppressors/machine guns on a form 5?

Thanks!
Link Posted: 11/12/2015 7:50:25 PM EDT
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Just as the title states, what is the appropriate way to log sales of handguns/long-arms/etc… and suppressors/machine guns/etc… in a A&D log? I’m not talking about individual officers who have a letterhead, I’m talking about sales of the guns/suppressors to the agency for their official use.  Where is that covered in the regs? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.

Are the suppressors/machine guns on a form 5?

Thanks!
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You record dispositions the same to a PD as you would to an individual, a corporation, etc.
There is nothing special about bound book dispositions.

§478.125 Record of receipt and disposition.

(e) Firearms receipt and disposition by dealers. Each licensed dealer shall enter into a record each receipt and disposition of firearms. In addition, before commencing or continuing a firearms business, each licensed dealer shall inventory the firearms possessed for such business and shall record same in the record required by this paragraph. The record required by this paragraph shall be maintained in bound form under the format prescribed below. The purchase or other acquisition of a firearm shall, except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, be recorded not later than the close of the next business day following the date of such purchase or acquisition. The record shall show the date of receipt, the name and address or the name and license number of the person from whom received, the name of the manufacturer and importer (if any), the model, serial number, type, and the caliber or gauge of the firearm. The sale or other disposition of a firearm shall be recorded by the licensed dealer not later than 7 days following the date of such transaction. When such disposition is made to a nonlicensee, the firearms transaction record, Form 4473, obtained by the licensed dealer shall be retained, until the transaction is recorded, separate from the licensee's Form 4473 file and be readily available for inspection. When such disposition is made to a licensee, the commercial record of the transaction shall be retained, until the transaction is recorded, separate from other commercial documents maintained by the licensed dealer, and be readily available for inspection. The record shall show the date of the sale or other disposition of each firearm, the name and address of the person to whom the firearm is transferred, or the name and license number of the person to whom transferred if such person is a licensee, or the firearms transaction record, Form 4473, serial number if the licensed dealer transferring the firearm serially numbers the Forms 4473 and files them numerically. The format required for the record of receipt and disposition of firearms is as follows...........
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Link Posted: 11/12/2015 7:51:21 PM EDT
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Yes, all NFA would transfer on a Form 5. For Title I, just the agency name and address. Keep a copy of the "duty use" letter or order received on their letterhead, just as you'd retain a 4473.
 



I have the relevant USC/CFR references saved somewhere. LE duty use exemption is in the 1968 GCA which created FFLs (and some other places).
Link Posted: 11/12/2015 9:05:47 PM EDT
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Thanks to both of you; it just seems too simple for something involving the goberment.
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