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Posted: 5/1/2016 8:40:32 PM EDT
Ratworx hybrid bolt extractor bad after less than 2,000-2,500 rounds.
Happened during competition. 
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Posted: 5/1/2016 9:51:13 PM EDT
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Ouch! Did you use their bolt sleeve too or the OEM bolt sleeve?
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Posted: 5/1/2016 9:55:06 PM EDT
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Maybe it's just the lighting, but the bolt lugs look funny.
With the hybrid bolt you can just swap with an AR extractor right? |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 10:20:46 PM EDT
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Ouch! Did you use their bolt sleeve too or the OEM bolt sleeve? Rat worx sleeve as well. Second sleeve i should say, their other one broke as well.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 10:22:01 PM EDT
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Maybe it's just the lighting, but the bolt lugs look funny. With the hybrid bolt you can just swap with an AR extractor right? It's difficult to pull the bolt/charging handle back when the extractor is out. Hope so. 
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Posted: 5/1/2016 10:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rat worx sleeve as well. Second sleeve i should say, their other one broke as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ouch! Did you use their bolt sleeve too or the OEM bolt sleeve? Rat worx sleeve as well. Second sleeve i should say, their other one broke as well. My OEM bolt sleeve and bolt cam pin gave out after 3k+ rounds. I replaced them with the Ratworx parts, but have only put a 100 rds through it since I shoot my other rifles more. For whatever reason, the MSAR design seems to wear these parts out fast  
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Posted: 5/2/2016 12:50:02 AM EDT
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Maybe it's just the lighting, but the bolt lugs look funny. With the hybrid bolt you can just swap with an AR extractor right? That was my first thought as well. The lugs don't look right. Peened/worn in some strange areas. |
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Posted: 5/2/2016 6:20:43 PM EDT
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Have you tried calling Ratworx about it. They are usually very easy to deal with.
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Posted: 5/2/2016 9:24:39 PM EDT
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Can someone explain what looks bad about the extractor? Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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Posted: 5/2/2016 9:42:31 PM EDT
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FYI, Ratwork does not make the extractor claws in house, that is a standard USGI spec product installed in the bolt head.
Even high quality extractors can fail, I had a Colt extractor break during a Kyle Defoor class and just had to muscle through the CQB stage with my gun as a pull action rifle. 
If you have broken two bolt sleeves, had an extractor fail, and with the wear pattern on the bolt face I am wondering if you may have an issue with the MSAR receiver and/or barrel itself. You shouldn't really be seeing wear on the face of the bolt like that, at least not in my experience- the bolt should not be contacting the barrel breech, but the wear marks suggest that is happening, or that it is rubbing somewhere in the cycling process. That force on the face of the extractor (and also the bolt sleeve impacting the receiver) could theoretically be causing the failures you are seeing. I am not saying that is 100% the issue, but just pointing out something I noticed that seems a bit off. Might be worth some more investigation. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 5/2/2016 10:03:50 PM EDT
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Can someone explain what looks bad about the extractor? Sorry if that's a dumb question. I can't tell either. |
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Posted: 5/2/2016 11:11:24 PM EDT
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I can't tell either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain what looks bad about the extractor? Sorry if that's a dumb question. I can't tell either. The extractor should be closer to the bolt in the first pic, should be more in so it grabs onto the base of the cartridge and fling it out when pushed all the way back. |
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Posted: 5/5/2016 7:33:48 AM EDT
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Took my bolt to a gunsmith and he found this when he took my bolt apart.
Is that my firing pin??? Haven't put my rifle back together yet.
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Posted: 5/5/2016 11:33:59 AM EDT
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Have you contacted Ratworx yet?
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Posted: 5/5/2016 11:58:24 AM EDT
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Have you contacted Ratworx yet? Yes, but not with an update as to what i found last night. Really need to put her back together first. |
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Posted: 5/5/2016 6:44:10 PM EDT
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Took my bolt to a gunsmith and he found this when he took my bolt apart. http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo157/Furyataurus/IMG_1332_zpssmqv2pz3.jpg Is that my firing pin??? Haven't put my rifle back together yet. Need ruler for scale but is that part of a roll pin or solid? Kind of looks like the extractor pin broke. |
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Posted: 5/5/2016 6:50:06 PM EDT
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It could be the bolt control pin.
No way to tell though from that picture - pretty sure Furyataurus will figure it out quick once he goes to put it all back together. |
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Posted: 5/10/2016 11:51:01 PM EDT
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Extractor pin, as in what holds the extractor in place? That gets my vote since it looks like it's missing from the pics above.
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Posted: 5/14/2016 7:24:22 PM EDT
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It's the extractor pin. I have a USR with all spec parts and I split my extractor into three pieces!!! It's something that can happen when running XM193 as that ammo is HOT and puts a tremendous amount of force on the extractor. Honestly, just replace the pin and you should be good to go. BTW OP, I was at similar round count when mine went.
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