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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:00:01 PM EDT
Overall, the conversion was simple. Since I have several 5.56's, I doubt I'll switch back anytime soon. This will likely be the perfect house gun. I found out that the ASC mags are the exact mags that are supplied in the conversion kitS so instead of paying $29.99 each for extras through IWI, I ordered five through J&G Sales for $12.95 each!
Here's how it turned out... 
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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:03:24 PM EDT
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Sweet
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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:12:44 PM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!!
I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:30:38 PM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. I love my 9mm conversion with my Osprey suppressor. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:42:30 PM EDT
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Looking for suggestions for a muzzle device. I am not digging the A2 squirrel cage. Perhaps I'll go with a Vortex as they seem to be effective at eliminating flash. What do you guys think? I'll try to chronograph a few tomorrow if I remember but these are Rainier 115 Grain reloads that we don't have loaded especially hot. I hope they run. If not, I'll load up some sub gun stuff and retry it next week.
Here's a link to the mags I bought. If any of you are thinking about the conversion, get some while they are on sale. $12.95 is a GREAT DEAL... Linky |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:10:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:11:32 PM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:54:13 PM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. I love my 9mm conversion with my Osprey suppressor. Osprey 9 or 45? |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:58:31 PM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. I love my 9mm conversion with my Osprey suppressor. Osprey 9 or 45? 45 |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 11:01:57 PM EDT
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...nice pics
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:02:24 AM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:41:01 PM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html Thank you . In looking at the numbers, it appears that the velocity gain starts to gradually diminish with added barrel length. Definitely no need to go beyond the 13" barrel length of the X95 (9mm) |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:01:13 AM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. I love my 9mm conversion with my Osprey suppressor. Osprey 9 or 45? 45 Cool, I have one. Now I need to find a 9mm kit. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 10:31:06 AM EDT
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That would be so sweet with a suppressor on it...!!! I'm dying to know the ballistics of a 9mm with a 16.5" barrel. I love my 9mm conversion with my Osprey suppressor. Osprey 9 or 45? 45 Cool, I have one. Now I need to find a 9mm kit. Cheaper than the price you had been looking at in the other thread, even.
http://www.preppergunshop.com/index.php/iwi-tavor-sar-9mm-conversion-kit-1-32rd-mag.html |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 11:11:36 AM EDT
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World's heaviest 9mm?
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Posted: 8/23/2014 11:29:57 AM EDT
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World's heaviest 9mm? Weighs in the same ballpark as a 9mm AUG, or most 9mm AR's. I have no words for people that think an 8 pound gun is heavy. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:58:30 PM EDT
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Thanks ShadowAngel. Now I'm complete and completely broke!
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:10:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOsprey suppressor + ARClight XTL, very nice sir! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:48:08 PM EDT
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Osprey suppressor + ARClight XTL, very nice sir! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thank you. I'm very happy with it!
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:48:46 PM EDT
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Thanks ShadowAngel. Now I'm complete and completely broke! This site has cost me so much money. I know how you feel. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:48:57 PM EDT
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One kit left now.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:08:50 AM EDT
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What thread size does the barrel have under the FH.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:54:51 AM EDT
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1/2x36
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:58:47 PM EDT
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Just a quick report back. While the 9mm conversion kit was fun, I was mildly hacked that my $352 Timney trigger would NOT function using the 9mm. Anyone care to speculate why it will not? Fortunately, I had the stock trigger pack in my range bag and it functioned just fine...
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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:37:50 PM EDT
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Just a quick report back. While the 9mm conversion kit was fun, I was mildly hacked that my $352 Timney trigger would NOT function using the 9mm. Anyone care to speculate why it will not? Fortunately, I had the stock trigger pack in my range bag and it functioned just fine... That's been reported as an issue with the Timney. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:09:25 PM EDT
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You know, I called them last week and asked specifically if their trigger pack presented any problems with the conversion and their tech said that he had not heard of one not working... I'm calling them back tomorrow and asking for a refund. I'd expect $350 to go bang every single time. I don't mind paying for quality but I want it to work consistently... Could this be why Geissele hasn't started selling theirs yet?
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:56:02 PM EDT
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I believe the tavor-dallas works with either. I have one on order.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 1:41:47 AM EDT
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You know, I called them last week and asked specifically if their trigger pack presented any problems with the conversion and their tech said that he had not heard of one not working... I'm calling them back tomorrow and asking for a refund. I'd expect $350 to go bang every single time. I don't mind paying for quality but I want it to work consistently... Could this be why Geissele hasn't started selling theirs yet? Yep. The TAV-D I have heard will work with the 9mm conversion, and i'm sure the Geissele will as well. Timney rushed t market and their trigger has had a lot of glitches. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 6:43:22 PM EDT
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Not sure what is the issue being mention on the Timney trigger and the 9mm.
I haven't had any issues with the Timney trigger the 9mm kit. Have about 250 rounds down range. Ordered mine for them at Shot. Varied from slow fire to rapid fire between multiple targets. No issues. And even double tap on 300 yard gong with this trigger. 9mm takes a long time to travel that far. ?? $12 is 1/2 the price I paid for my original mags. Thanks the the info. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 7:15:02 PM EDT
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Not sure what is the issue being mention on the Timney trigger and the 9mm. I haven't had any issues with the Timney trigger the 9mm kit. Have about 250 rounds down range. Ordered mine for them at Shot. Varied from slow fire to rapid fire between multiple targets. No issues. And even double tap on 300 yard gong with this trigger. 9mm takes a long time to travel that far. ?? $12 is 1/2 the price I paid for my original mags. Thanks the the info. It's not all Timney triggers that had issues. Just a lot of reports of various issues with the 9mm, just as there were a lot of reports of issues with it and the normal 5.56 configuration. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:42:25 PM EDT
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Well, I've got a call in to Timney. We will see how they resolve it. I'd like to keep the trigger pack.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 4:06:32 PM EDT
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Looking for suggestions for a muzzle device. I am not digging the A2 squirrel cage. Perhaps I'll go with a Vortex as they seem to be effective at eliminating flash. What do you guys think? I'll try to chronograph a few tomorrow if I remember but these are Rainier 115 Grain reloads that we don't have loaded especially hot. I hope they run. If not, I'll load up some sub gun stuff and retry it next week. Here's a link to the mags I bought. If any of you are thinking about the conversion, get some while they are on sale. $12.95 is a GREAT DEAL... Linky For the muzzle device, are you worried about looks or function? Even with 5.56, the A2 is pretty close in performance to the newer models costing 10-20x as much, until you get to a pretty short barrel length. With 9mm, I think it'll be a non-issue. If you want a cool looking device, buy whatever looks good to you. |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 2:00:21 PM EDT
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I went with a Smith Vortex for flash supression since I will likely be shooting this thing indoors if it ever came to that... I didn't see a need for any type of brake.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 3:19:30 PM EDT
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the A2 is pretty close in performance to the newer models costing 10-20x as much Its nice to hear somebody say this. I admit that there are a few more exotic-looking flash hiders out there that work a tad bit better (for more money) than the traditional A2 birdcage, but the A2 is a compact, very effective, and very inexpensive flash hider that works well with 5.56 rifles. Especially on a standard 16+ inch barrel. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 2:17:27 PM EDT
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and honestly the A2 would have been more than sufficent on the 9mm but I can't leave anything alone... I just have to make it mine and change a few parts.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 4:58:50 PM EDT
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With a suppressor, like this?
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Posted: 9/5/2014 12:53:45 PM EDT
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Any issues finding muzzle devices in the proper thread pitch?
Is this the same pitch as the AR15/9 ? |
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Posted: 9/5/2014 1:04:31 PM EDT
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Any issues finding muzzle devices in the proper thread pitch? Is this the same pitch as the AR15/9 ? Threads are 1/2x36. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:49:00 PM EDT
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Well, it appears that my order got cancelled because Cobra Tactical said Smith Enterprises no longer offers the Vortex in 1x36. Anyone have other suggestions for a muzzle device for the 9mm Kit?
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:57:34 AM EDT
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Looks like these people have it in stock.
http://stores.9mmar.com/9mm-smith-vortex-flash-hider-1-2x36-thread/ |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 5:50:29 PM EDT
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Well, it appears that my order got cancelled because Cobra Tactical said Smith Enterprises no longer offers the Vortex in 1x36. Anyone have other suggestions for a muzzle device for the 9mm Kit? The Manticore 9mm 1/2x36 Eclipse is in stock and ready to ship. 
http://www.manticorearms.com/Eclipse-Flash-Hider-1-2x36-tpi-for-9mm-AR-15-MA-6436.htm |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 8:17:22 PM EDT
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How far back could you cut the barrel and still use the suppressor. Will the I.D. of the tavor handguard fit the O.D. of a typical 9mm can (like an Octane)?
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Posted: 10/3/2014 12:59:00 PM EDT
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How far back could you cut the barrel and still use the suppressor. Will the I.D. of the tavor handguard fit the O.D. of a typical 9mm can (like an Octane)? Keep in mind you have to maintain a minimum overall length to avoid SBR issues. Wes |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:45:13 PM EDT
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You know, I called them last week and asked specifically if their trigger pack presented any problems with the conversion and their tech said that he had not heard of one not working... I'm calling them back tomorrow and asking for a refund. I'd expect $350 to go bang every single time. I don't mind paying for quality but I want it to work consistently... Could this be why Geissele hasn't started selling theirs yet? I did same thing as you with the 9mm kit and the 6 asg mags a few months ago. I also opted for the timney and had the same issue. They replaced mine but I have not shot it yet... Maybe tomorrow I will and give a range report. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 11:08:15 PM EDT
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My replacement Timney ran like a champ at the ARFCOM HTF shoot today! Thanks for the suggestions for sources on the muzzle device for my 9mm guys...
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