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Posted: 1/16/2016 2:06:16 AM EDT
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Yes, loading them for 9, 40, 45.
No issues so far. As accurate as my cast were with much less smoke and lead in the air. I'm a fan. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 2:17:10 AM EDT
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Blue Bullets in 9 and 45. I like them well enough and it smells like an electrical fire when you shoot them.
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Posted: 1/16/2016 2:51:51 AM EDT
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Blue Bullets in 9 and 45. I like them well enough and it smells like an electrical fire when you shoot them. <a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/user/mkern2520/media/100_0757_zpscc4f4689.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/mkern2520/100_0757_zpscc4f4689.jpg</a> I hope I like them (blue bullets) I just got 2K in 45 and 4K in 9mm. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 6:30:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope I like them (blue bullets) I just got 2K in 45 and 4K in 9mm. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Blue Bullets in 9 and 45. I like them well enough and it smells like an electrical fire when you shoot them. <a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/user/mkern2520/media/100_0757_zpscc4f4689.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/mkern2520/100_0757_zpscc4f4689.jpg</a> I hope I like them (blue bullets) I just got 2K in 45 and 4K in 9mm. I had good results with Blue Bullets. I switched over to Bayou Bullets because their coating doesn't come off on my hands. It doesn't effect the bullet, but it gets annoying to me. I prefer them over plated. And for me it's all fairly clean ammo at the lowest price. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:50:26 AM EDT
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Mine are not PC, I coat mine with HI-TEK from Bayou Bullets.
http://www.bayoubullets.net/hi-tek-heat-set-super-coat-bullet-coating-call-donnie-at-225-324-4501/ I shoot them in 380, 9mm, 45ACP, 40 and 10MM. Velocities range from 750fps to 1250fps with no leading, smoke or any other unwanted issues. I will Never go back to a Cast Lubed bullet again. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 9:13:05 AM EDT
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i have had excellent results with Bayou bullets and SNS.
Coating is becoming far more common and lots of commercial casters are getting it right. My experience has been it is easier to get a coated bullet to shoot well than a plated one. For the cost of most plated bullets, I would a pay just a little more and buy FMJ. Good loading and shooting |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 9:53:01 AM EDT
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I cast and coat my own. Hi-Tek for the win.
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:26:29 AM EDT
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Are the coated bullets compatible with glock barrels?
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:47:49 AM EDT
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Are the coated bullets compatible with glock barrels? Yes. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 11:30:12 AM EDT
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Hello, my name is Motor and I'm addicted to powder coating.
Seriously. I started to dry tumble powder coat about a year ago and am fully sold on it. I cast my own bullets so there really isn't any brand there. So far I have only used Harbor Freight red powder and at the rate its being used I'll probably be using it for a while. Estimates go into the 2 to 4 thousand range in how many bullets you could tumble coat with one pound of powder. I currently coat: 380. 9mm, 38/357, 41,44,45, 500 S&W and 50 cal muzzleloader. (I use the 50 cal ML in the 500 S&W) but don't see any reason not to use them in the front loader. Performance is great. I have also found I can use a little softer allow. So far unlike with lube where you always expect and get minor leading I am getting no lead fouling using PC (powder coating). ETA: Forgot to mention 30 and 31 caliber rifle bullets too. Motor |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 12:14:45 PM EDT
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I have shot a lot of Missouri Bullet Company, Bayou Bullets, Rocky Mountain Reloading, and Montana Gold bullets. Pretty much all I practice with is PC or plated rounds for cost. At this stage, I almost always go with RMR because their costs are barely more than PC for a fully copper plated round. They shoot more accurately than me (I'm terrible with a pistol).
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Posted: 1/16/2016 12:33:40 PM EDT
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Is there a difference between Polymer (Blue Bullet etc) and powder coating?
I have tried everything but Polymer coated. The Xtreme plated 200 gr SWC were crap for accuracy. Did see a post on another forum that indicated that not all plated are equal. This coating, low accuracy, thick coating better accuracy. The Hi-Tek coating was OK, decent accuracy. But nothing I have shot comes close to lubed lead. Currently shooting Delta Precision 185 gr SWC HP with match grade lube in 45 ACP. Here is another discussion on this very topic in 1911 Forum. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 1:00:15 PM EDT
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I run the extreme .45 230 gn ball over 6 Gns of unique for 3gun and get really great results.
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Posted: 1/16/2016 3:37:53 PM EDT
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I have shot a lot of Missouri Bullet Company, Bayou Bullets, Rocky Mountain Reloading, and Montana Gold bullets. Pretty much all I practice with is PC or plated rounds for cost. At this stage, I almost always go with RMR because their costs are barely more than PC for a fully copper plated round. They shoot more accurately than me (I'm terrible with a pistol). I was considering plated from RMR. They are supposed to be thick plated(.012"-.014") I think,which is pretty thick.But I am concerned about the softness of the plating compared to jacketed.They also have very good pricing for the plated and they also have pulled FMJ's at a good price.I am hesitant about the pulled,I like to see what I am getting before I buy. The Missouri bullets and the Bayou's were some I was considering also.Pretty good pricing but the coated are close in price to the RMR plated/ pulled bullets. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 3:40:18 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a> We call them Powder Coated, or PC for short. Good looking work Dryflash3.Where do you get your powder coating from? Is it bad to come off on your hands,dies,etc? |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 3:47:56 PM EDT
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I had good results with Blue Bullets. I switched over to Bayou Bullets because their coating doesn't come off on my hands. It doesn't effect the bullet, but it gets annoying to me. I prefer them over plated. And for me it's all fairly clean ammo at the lowest price. Same for me. Tried Blue Bullets but the coating scraped off too easilly, Much happier with Bayou's product. Will be switching over completely to their 200 g SWC for .45 and .158 SWC for .38/.357 |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 3:56:39 PM EDT
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double tap , please delete
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Posted: 1/16/2016 4:20:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good looking work Dryflash3.Where do you get your powder coating from? Is it bad to come off on your hands,dies,etc? Do you cast and coat your own? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a> We call them Powder Coated, or PC for short. Good looking work Dryflash3.Where do you get your powder coating from? Is it bad to come off on your hands,dies,etc? Do you cast and coat your own? Harbor Freight, I use the shake and bake method. Once PC is baked on, it doesn't come off. Yes. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:42:29 PM EDT
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Load coated bullets. They're great!
I use Ibeji-heads brand. Quite accurate and the price is right, plus no leading. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 9:16:15 PM EDT
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Another PC'er here. Have coated for every caliber I load including rifles. Full house 10mm with no gas check, no problem in factory glock barrels. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:03:06 PM EDT
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Are PC bullets suitable to shoot on a public indoor range?
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:08:24 PM EDT
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Are PC bullets suitable to shoot on a public indoor range? Don't know why they wouldn't be. Any indoor range should have some sort of air movement and venting anyways, but I haven't found them to be smoky like plain lead tends to be. Does the range in question have rules against shooting plain lead? |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDon't know why they wouldn't be. Any indoor range should have some sort of air movement and venting anyways, but I haven't found them to be smoky like plain lead tends to be. Does the range in question have rules against shooting plain lead? I've been asked before if my ammunition is jacketed and brass cased. They certainly don't enforce the brass rule, but I don't want to commit a party foul by smoking up the place. Thanks for the help, I'm a new hand loader and have been using Berry's so far. I'm looking to place an order for more bullets soon and am trying to decide if I should stay with plated or go to the slightly cheaper PC options. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:23:28 PM EDT
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Are PC bullets suitable to shoot on a public indoor range? I have been reading in other forums about coated bullets and other shooters mentioned that their ranges allowed them when lubed cast bullets were not allowed .Your range could be an exception,only way to know is ask the range master. |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 1:25:43 AM EDT
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Some .45 I loaded up for Mrs. Coyote3, using the "Shake-n'-Bake" method. They function and shoot great, without the usual smoke from traditional lubed bullets.
 Page 2 is mine! |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 11:47:21 AM EDT
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The indoor range I go to allows pc bullets, but does not allow lead.
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Posted: 1/17/2016 1:07:42 PM EDT
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blue bullets, bayou, precision 
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Posted: 1/17/2016 1:34:07 PM EDT
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I've been using Blue Bullets for almost two years now.
9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP, .380ACP (though they don't make the .380's anymore). Love them. |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 2:01:57 PM EDT
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Some .45 I loaded up for Mrs. Coyote3, using the "Shake-n'-Bake" method. They function and shoot great, without the usual smoke from traditional lubed bullets. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=68775&prev=1 Page 2 is mine! Nice job coyote3,now Mrs.coyote3 will be ready for the zombie apocolypse.Ohhh I guess you are supposed to use green for zombies! lol Are you using the Harbor Freight PC too! You guys almost have me convinced to PC some lead I already have,plus buy some already coated!
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Posted: 1/17/2016 2:05:15 PM EDT
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blue bullets, bayou, precision http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/40180_zps6hf7hjf7.jpg Hey Derek45,what color shoots the best? How are the Bayou and the Precision bullets? |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 2:16:10 PM EDT
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Harbor Freight, I use the shake and bake method. Once PC is baked on, it doesn't come off. Yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a> We call them Powder Coated, or PC for short. Good looking work Dryflash3.Where do you get your powder coating from? Is it bad to come off on your hands,dies,etc? Do you cast and coat your own? Harbor Freight, I use the shake and bake method. Once PC is baked on, it doesn't come off. Yes. Is this just the powder coat paint offered on Harbor's website or is it something else? What section do you find this in? |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 2:55:09 PM EDT
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Hey Derek45,what color shoots the best? How are the Bayou and the Precision bullets? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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blue bullets, bayou, precision http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/derek45/40180_zps6hf7hjf7.jpg Hey Derek45,what color shoots the best? How are the Bayou and the Precision bullets? I've been shooting the Precision for a long time, in my IPSC STI 40 gun. I like them alot The bayou and Blue shoot about as well. 
I tried them in my old Gen-2 Glock23, and they leaded up the stock barrel The Bayou and Blue don't lead up the glock but it doesn't matter anymore, because I installed a storm lake barrel in the G23 
so, to answer you question, now I buy what every is in stock, at the lowest price shipped. 
They are all good.
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Posted: 1/17/2016 5:50:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this just the powder coat paint offered on Harbor's website or is it something else? What section do you find this in? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a> We call them Powder Coated, or PC for short. Good looking work Dryflash3.Where do you get your powder coating from? Is it bad to come off on your hands,dies,etc? Do you cast and coat your own? Harbor Freight, I use the shake and bake method. Once PC is baked on, it doesn't come off. Yes. I bought mine at the local store.  I doubt they have several "kinds" as they only offer 3 colors. For the shake and bake method, only red works. Yellow and white do not stick with this method. |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 10:31:04 PM EDT
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I bought mine at the local store. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010910_zpsbkdyxwtn.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010910_zpsbkdyxwtn.jpg</a> I doubt they have several "kinds" as they only offer 3 colors. For the shake and bake method, only red works. Yellow and white do not stick with this method. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010905_zpsr3uylezi.jpg</a> We call them Powder Coated, or PC for short. Good looking work Dryflash3.Where do you get your powder coating from? Is it bad to come off on your hands,dies,etc? Do you cast and coat your own? Harbor Freight, I use the shake and bake method. Once PC is baked on, it doesn't come off. Yes. I bought mine at the local store. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010910_zpsbkdyxwtn.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010910_zpsbkdyxwtn.jpg</a> I doubt they have several "kinds" as they only offer 3 colors. For the shake and bake method, only red works. Yellow and white do not stick with this method. Thank you for sharing with me.I might have been pulling my hair out trying to figure this out! lol |
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Posted: 1/17/2016 11:47:04 PM EDT
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This where I learned how to PC bullets, http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?184-Coatings-and-Alternatives
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:01:55 AM EDT
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What is the benefit of PC bullets? I had a friend load me up about 200 .45s (dark blue and reddish colors)...
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:40:01 AM EDT
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What is the benefit of PC bullets? I had a friend load me up about 200 .45s (dark blue and reddish colors)... Less smoke than conventional lubed lead. No leading unless you shave the coating while seating the bullet. Cost slightly lower than plated and most will agree that they also are more accurate than plated. Generally speaking they are overall superior to plated while being only barely more expensive than normal lead. It's also a very simple process to do at home in your garage if you cast. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 1:13:09 AM EDT
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I just recently started PCing my 9mm cast bullets. I'm liking it.
Only drawback is I have to be more secure in my masculinity. My new cartridges look like little lipsticks. 
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Posted: 1/18/2016 2:02:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice job coyote3,now Mrs.coyote3 will be ready for the zombie apocalypse. Ohhh I guess you are supposed to use green for zombies! lol Are you using the Harbor Freight PC too! You guys almost have me convinced to PC some lead I already have,plus buy some already coated! |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 2:21:02 PM EDT
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I bought that particular powder from ebay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice job coyote3,now Mrs.coyote3 will be ready for the zombie apocalypse. Ohhh I guess you are supposed to use green for zombies! lol Are you using the Harbor Freight PC too! You guys almost have me convinced to PC some lead I already have,plus buy some already coated! You just answered my next question.Thank you. Do you get leading from the bullets you powder coat? |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 2:25:44 PM EDT
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So what do you all think? Is the powder coat a suitable replacement for the lube on reg cast lead bullets or would the Hi-Tek or similar coating be better?
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Posted: 1/18/2016 5:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what do you all think? Is the powder coat a suitable replacement for the lube on reg cast lead bullets or would the Hi-Tek or similar coating be better? Yes |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 6:16:55 PM EDT
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So what do you all think? Is the powder coat a suitable replacement for the lube on reg cast lead bullets or would the Hi-Tek or similar coating be better? PC is easier to apply and tougher imo. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 11:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what do you all think? Is the powder coat a suitable replacement for the lube on reg cast lead bullets or would the Hi-Tek or similar coating be better? |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 11:34:22 PM EDT
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Ok so tell me.After you get through putting the powder coat on,I assume that you resize the bullets,right? Since you are adding a coating,plus heating the bullet I would think this is a necessity.Is it possible to heat treat the bullets at the same time as curing the powder coat?
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Posted: 1/18/2016 11:40:58 PM EDT
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Resizing after coating and baking depends on a lot of factors.
Am I installing a gas check? On some molds the gas check will only stay on after coating, because shank was too small to start with. As PC may add .001 to .002 to the diameter. Other times it depends on the bullet diameter and your desired diameter. So you need to get out your caliper, measure you bullets, then decide what to do. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:45:05 AM EDT
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Is rule of thumb still .001 to .002 above barrel diameter on PC bullets (like cast) or does that go out the window with PC?
I am coating my first batch of 44cal bullets now for 44-40. My Rossi barrel slugs bigger than I was hoping (using 44mag/special barrels!!!). Mold is at .427 I use for SAA. They run a little bigger due to temp, alloy, etc. But the Rossi slugs at .4285ish. Out of the oven, the coated bullets are over .430. Thinking I will size them down to .429 or maybe try them as coated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Resizing after coating and baking depends on a lot of factors. Am I installing a gas check? On some molds the gas check will only stay on after coating, because shank was too small to start with. As PC may add .001 to .002 to the diameter. Other times it depends on the bullet diameter and your desired diameter. So you need to get out your caliper, measure you bullets, then decide what to do. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 1:21:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is rule of thumb still .001 to .002 above barrel diameter on PC bullets (like cast) or does that go out the window with PC? I am coating my first batch of 44cal bullets now for 44-40. My Rossi barrel slugs bigger than I was hoping (using 44mag/special barrels!!!). Mold is at .427 I use for SAA. They run a little bigger due to temp, alloy, etc. But the Rossi slugs at .4285ish. Out of the oven, the coated bullets are over .430. Thinking I will size them down to .429 or maybe try them as coated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Is rule of thumb still .001 to .002 above barrel diameter on PC bullets (like cast) or does that go out the window with PC? I am coating my first batch of 44cal bullets now for 44-40. My Rossi barrel slugs bigger than I was hoping (using 44mag/special barrels!!!). Mold is at .427 I use for SAA. They run a little bigger due to temp, alloy, etc. But the Rossi slugs at .4285ish. Out of the oven, the coated bullets are over .430. Thinking I will size them down to .429 or maybe try them as coated. Quoted: Resizing after coating and baking depends on a lot of factors. Am I installing a gas check? On some molds the gas check will only stay on after coating, because shank was too small to start with. As PC may add .001 to .002 to the diameter. Other times it depends on the bullet diameter and your desired diameter. So you need to get out your caliper, measure you bullets, then decide what to do. With those numbers, I wouldn't size them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:53:13 AM EDT
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I just recently started PCing my 9mm cast bullets. I'm liking it. Only drawback is I have to be more secure in my masculinity. My new cartridges look like little lipsticks. Nothing wrong with that 
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