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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:31:29 AM EDT
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700x ?
You could check volume metric density in cc,s of 700 X against the weight in grains of that powder. With the Lee auto disk. Or lee measuring teaspoons. Just guessing might get you in trouble. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:38:55 AM EDT
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.13430 Is the vmd of 700x.
Charg in grains x vmd = volume in cc,s. 10 gr. x .13430 = 1.340 cc then check wait in grains of 1.340 cc Check the volume of cc against the weight in grains of 700 X. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 3:41:29 AM EDT
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Call Eric Lutfy at Thunderbird and ask him what it is. I think he could taste powder and tell you what it is.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:50:38 AM EDT
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Just think of it as paying $30. for an 8Lb bottle of 4895 ( a steal) and the other was thrown in for good luck, use it as fertilizer.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:02:38 AM EDT
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Just think of it as paying $30. for an 8Lb bottle of 4895 ( a steal) and the other was thrown in for good luck, use it as fertilizer. Believe me I'm not complaining. I just wanted to think of it as $15 for 8 lbs of 4895 and $15 for 8 lbs of some pistol powder. I wonder if it would be stupid to load up like 3 grains of it in a 9mm and fire it in a vise? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:03:12 AM EDT
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.13430 Is the vmd of 700x. Charg in grains x vmd = volume in cc,s. 10 gr. x .13430 = 1.340 cc then check wait in grains of 1.340 cc Check the volume of cc against the weight in grains of 700 X. Thanks! I will try that. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:05:39 AM EDT
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To me, the powder looks like flattened ball powder. I was hoping that would be able to narrow it down some. But i can't really figure out what IMR powders are made like this. I tried to Google search but I can't find anything definitive.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:05:37 AM EDT
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Call Eric Lutfy at Thunderbird and ask him what it is. I think he could taste powder and tell you what it is. sounds like the best bet to me |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:14:34 AM EDT
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Believe me I'm not complaining. I just wanted to think of it as $15 for 8 lbs of 4895 and $15 for 8 lbs of some pistol powder. I wonder if it would be stupid to load up like 3 grains of it in a 9mm and fire it in a vise? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just think of it as paying $30. for an 8Lb bottle of 4895 ( a steal) and the other was thrown in for good luck, use it as fertilizer. Believe me I'm not complaining. I just wanted to think of it as $15 for 8 lbs of 4895 and $15 for 8 lbs of some pistol powder. I wonder if it would be stupid to load up like 3 grains of it in a 9mm and fire it in a vise? IMO Yes. So the 3gr works, in the vise. Will 3.5 work safely, is it temp or position sensitive etc? How much more you willing to risk before your gun gets damaged ? Unknown powder looks so much better on the lawn, than the stitches in your hand & head. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:50:49 AM EDT
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That almost looks like more than one kind of powder.
in the last picture, its almost all flake, but one or two look like they could be ball. Maybe im just seeing things |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:53:39 AM EDT
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700x ? You could check volume metric density in cc,s of 700 X against the weight in grains of that powder. With the Lee auto disk. Or lee measuring teaspoons. Just guessing might get you in trouble. I think 700x usually has random yellow colored flakes in it as an identifier. ETA.. yes. my jug of 700x does, as does an image search on the Googles... http://s246.photobucket.com/user/g_lauinger/media/IMG_1432.jpg.html |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 12:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That almost looks like more than one kind of powder. in the last picture, its almost all flake, but one or two look like they could be ball. Maybe im just seeing things I agree, looks like a flattened ball powder mixed with flake powder. For me it would be fertilizer. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:04:20 PM EDT
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That almost looks like more than one kind of powder. in the last picture, its almost all flake, but one or two look like they could be ball. Maybe im just seeing things smp844/wc844 has 2 different styles of grains , not suggesting that what it is |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 2:32:19 PM EDT
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Do you have a chronograph? If you suspect its a pistol powder, I wouldn't be afraid to work up target loads. Start low and figure out how much it takes to get it to burn clean while watching the velocities.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 5:32:21 PM EDT
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I think 700x usually has random yellow colored flakes in it as an identifier. ETA.. yes. my jug of 700x does, as does an image search on the Googles... http://s246.photobucket.com/user/g_lauinger/media/IMG_1432.jpg.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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700x ? You could check volume metric density in cc,s of 700 X against the weight in grains of that powder. With the Lee auto disk. Or lee measuring teaspoons. Just guessing might get you in trouble. I think 700x usually has random yellow colored flakes in it as an identifier. ETA.. yes. my jug of 700x does, as does an image search on the Googles... http://s246.photobucket.com/user/g_lauinger/media/IMG_1432.jpg.html this is correct, I use 700x in my .45acp loads and there are random yellow flakes |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 6:30:05 PM EDT
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For $15 spread that shit around the garden and be done with it.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 7:46:21 PM EDT
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That is not IMR 4895 as 4895 is a extruded long grain powder
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:59:36 PM EDT
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IMR sr 7625 ?
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:55:26 PM EDT
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Toss it. No sense in Turing you face and gun FUBAR.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:12:47 PM EDT
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There are several lab tests that can find out exactly what powder it is, however most are more costly than the powder would cost new.
Personally I mix unknown/contaminated/mixed powder into wax fire starters for camping as well as using it for simple pyrotechnics and in KNO3 model rocket engines. If you have poor soil it will benefit your garden plants, otherwise you won't see much difference. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:38:18 PM EDT
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I'm no reloaded, but it kept nada looks like shotgun powder? I've had flakes on my arms after shooting sporting clays, which I do a lot. Just my guess, but as others have noted, guessing will get you into trouble.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:38:45 PM EDT
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There are several lab tests that can find out exactly what powder it is, however most are more costly than the powder would cost new. Personally I mix unknown/contaminated/mixed powder into wax fire starters for camping as well as using it for simple pyrotechnics and in KNO3 model rocket engines. If you have poor soil it will benefit your garden plants, otherwise you won't see much difference. I have no use for fertilizer. I live in West Texas. 
If I can't use it I will find a way to burn it or something. I like fire 
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Posted: 3/31/2015 12:44:00 AM EDT
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I have no use for fertilizer. I live in West Texas.
If I can't use it I will find a way to burn it or something. I like fire [img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif[/img] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are several lab tests that can find out exactly what powder it is, however most are more costly than the powder would cost new. Personally I mix unknown/contaminated/mixed powder into wax fire starters for camping as well as using it for simple pyrotechnics and in KNO3 model rocket engines. If you have poor soil it will benefit your garden plants, otherwise you won't see much difference. I have no use for fertilizer. I live in West Texas.
If I can't use it I will find a way to burn it or something. I like fire [img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif[/img] |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 2:43:41 AM EDT
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You could try this site: http://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sample_detail.php?powder_id=247 It does look like Hodgdon-Trap 100..
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:21:24 AM EDT
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.11710 is VMD of Hodgdon trap 100.
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Posted: 3/31/2015 5:20:39 PM EDT
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The powder database is very cool. Based on a quick search using that site I'm going to guess TiteGroup.
TiteGroup Having never seen TiteGroup though and not having much to go on, this is just a WAG on my part. Brian |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 4:39:02 PM EDT
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The powder database is very cool. Based on a quick search using that site I'm going to guess TiteGroup. TiteGroup Having never seen TiteGroup though and not having much to go on, this is just a WAG on my part. Brian This website is pretty awesome. I doubt that I will try to use the powder. I wish I could've though. Maybe save it for a rainy day or make a cool fire. We will see. |
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