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Posted: 6/30/2013 8:52:21 AM EDT
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I've been scouring the net for the same info the past few days, most of the loads I've found are for lead.
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Posted: 6/30/2013 10:17:20 AM EDT
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Where are you finding 158 gr jacketed projo's?
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Posted: 6/30/2013 11:06:00 AM EDT
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Where are you finding 158 gr jacketed projo's? Sized down .357. |
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Posted: 6/30/2013 12:26:26 PM EDT
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Tag....heavy jacketed 9mm is always in demand here.
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Posted: 7/1/2013 2:13:52 PM EDT
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So nobody has any clue. huh?
I guess I will be the pioneer..... Stay tuned........ |
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Posted: 7/1/2013 3:38:52 PM EDT
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I loaded some Berrys plated 158s using 3.0, 3.2, and 3.4 gr of Win 231. OAL was 1.150".
3.4 gave an average of 912 fps through a 10.2" Uzi barrel with no pressure signs. Probably a little slower through a pistol barrel. As always, YMMV, use at your own risk, etc. |
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Posted: 7/1/2013 8:57:07 PM EDT
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I've found these online use at your own risk.
9mm 158g RN lead loads 3.4 grains of W231: Ave. 838 fps, 13.81 SD 4.2 grains of HS-6: Ave. 801 fps, 17.36 SD 4.5 grains of HS-6: Ave. 875 fps, 15.87 SD 3.0 grains for bullseye with a max of 3.5 869 to 961 FPS 3.0 grains Red Dot with a max of 3.6 858 to 963 fps 3.5 grains unique with a max of 4.5 883 to 1039 fps 3.6 grains Herco with a max of 4.6 840 to 1010 fps load 1.160" |
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Posted: 7/2/2013 9:11:01 AM EDT
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I did 158's in subsonic 9mm years ago.
I have no idea what the powder weight was, but I am sure I was using AA#2. I wanted a light, functional load for some matches, but I was not using a suppressor. It's not magic, but it can be tricky. Be safe! John |
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Posted: 7/2/2013 10:03:01 AM EDT
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Here ya go Todd.
From Accurate Powders manual #4 9mm sub sonic projectile: IMI 158 FMJBT Primer: WW Case: WW powder: Accurate #2 Start Charge: 4.0 grains Velocity: 875 fps Max Charge: 4.4 grains Velocity: 950 fps or Accurate #5 Start Charge: 5.0 grains Velocity: 875 fps Max Charge: 5.6 grains Velocity: 950 fps |
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Posted: 7/3/2013 8:14:45 AM EDT
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I loaded some Berrys plated 158s using 3.0, 3.2, and 3.4 gr of Win 231. OAL was 1.150". 3.4 gave an average of 912 fps through a 10.2" Uzi barrel with no pressure signs. Probably a little slower through a pistol barrel. As always, YMMV, use at your own risk, etc. Did you size down the 357" to .356"? Or did you use the 38 super bullets? I was using 150gr 38 super bullets with success but Berry's, extreme, and the rest have all stopped production of them I assume to fill other orders. |
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Posted: 7/3/2013 8:14:57 AM EDT
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Here ya go Todd.
From Accurate Powders manual #4 9mm sub sonic projectile: IMI 158 FMJBT Primer: WW Case: WW powder: Accurate #2 Start Charge: 4.0 grains Velocity: 875 fps Max Charge: 4.4 grains Velocity: 950 fps or Accurate #5 Start Charge: 5.0 grains Velocity: 875 fps Max Charge: 5.6 grains Velocity: 950 fps Thanks you sir. |
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Posted: 7/3/2013 8:29:19 AM EDT
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This sounds like a good USPSA load...
I was looking at 38 Super cast lead bullets yesterday, bought 125g 9mm instead since I already have a load worked up for them...
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Posted: 7/3/2013 10:15:07 AM EDT
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I loaded some Berry's 158gr plated flat points in 9mm. I don't remember my OAL.
I started with 2.5 grains of TiteGroup. It cycled most of the time and chronographed about 690 fps. I bumped it up to 2.8 grains which seems to cycle reliably and it chronographs in at 720 fps. Gun was a CZ-75B. With such a low volume of gas they should suppress very well but I've never done it. (However they're so close to the edge of cycling they may not run reliably) |
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Posted: 7/4/2013 11:16:25 AM EDT
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my go to subsonic load is a 158gr lead rn at 1.15" 3.2gr w231. never chrono'd it though
as always use at your own risk. best advice is run the longest OAL that will feed/chamber |
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Posted: 7/4/2013 4:02:54 PM EDT
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my go to subsonic load is a 158gr lead rn at 1.15" 3.2gr w231. never chrono'd it though as always use at your own risk. best advice is run the longest OAL that will feed/chamber Gemtech says no lead in their suppressors, so I am trying to stay away from them. |
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Posted: 7/4/2013 6:30:18 PM EDT
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my go to subsonic load is a 158gr lead rn at 1.15" 3.2gr w231. never chrono'd it though as always use at your own risk. best advice is run the longest OAL that will feed/chamber Gemtech says no lead in their suppressors, so I am trying to stay away from them. Same plan I have. Especially for something that can't be disassembled. |
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Posted: 7/4/2013 7:37:10 PM EDT
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my go to subsonic load is a 158gr lead rn at 1.15" 3.2gr w231. never chrono'd it though as always use at your own risk. best advice is run the longest OAL that will feed/chamber Gemtech says no lead in their suppressors, so I am trying to stay away from them. Same plan I have. Especially for something that can't be disassembled. I am working on using lead bullets powder coated. I loaded a bunch of 38 special and 357 mag rounds powder coated. I plan on recovering the round to see if the back of the bullets stay coated. If they do then i will try 9mm and work my way to 9mm/can. If that works then it will be 300 blackout coated. |
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Posted: 7/8/2013 3:19:57 PM EDT
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Search the Brian Enos forum reloading pages. Lots of folks there loading heavy 9mm.
I use a lee 158 gr RN TL cast bullet sized .356 with 3.0 grs of WST. |
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Posted: 7/8/2013 3:27:31 PM EDT
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my go to subsonic load is a 158gr lead rn at 1.15" 3.2gr w231. never chrono'd it though as always use at your own risk. best advice is run the longest OAL that will feed/chamber Gemtech says no lead in their suppressors, so I am trying to stay away from them. Same plan I have. Especially for something that can't be disassembled. So is there a 9mm can that will work for lead IE can be disassembled? I just bought a 140gn HP mold I plan to use in a suppressed AR one of these days. |
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Posted: 7/8/2013 3:45:55 PM EDT
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So is there a 9mm can that will work for lead IE can be disassembled? I just bought a 140gn HP mold I plan to use in a suppressed AR one of these days. FRom the factory? I not many, if any. But many can be "jailbroken"...I.e. made disassemble-able. http://www.stalkingrhino.com/ |
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Posted: 7/9/2013 10:17:48 AM EDT
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So is there a 9mm can that will work for lead IE can be disassembled? I just bought a 140gn HP mold I plan to use in a suppressed AR one of these days. Tirant 9 SWR Octane 9 HD |
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Posted: 7/9/2013 11:19:09 AM EDT
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I've had good results with .357 125 and 158gr bullets loaded in 9mm. My recipe for Montana Gold 158 JHP in a Glock 17 is 3.6gr WSF and Win SPP at 1.12OAL.
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