Scar 17s precision enough?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Scar 17s precision enough?

Posted: 4/28/2017 5:59:13 PM EDT

I have an opportunity to sell my Remington 700p in a McMillan stock to my brother and with a little extra money pick up a 17s. Is the 17s precision enough to replace my 308 bolt action? I also have a custom 300wm so would not be without a long range gun. Just curious if the 17s is precision enough to replace my bolt 308 out to 800 yards and under.

Thanks for the help in deciding this.

Posted: 4/28/2017 7:59:35 PM EDT

[#1]

I would say yes it could replace it but it depends on what level of accuracy you're expecting.

You will be able to engage man sizes targets out to 800 but we're taking about Combat type accuracy here. I wouldn't expect 100% hits but if that fits into what you're expecting then go for it!

What glass do you plan on putting on it?

When I had the TA11 ACOG on mine I could land relatively consistent hits at 750 with m80 ball but there were times it would dance around the target regardless.

Posted: 4/28/2017 8:06:48 PM EDT

[#2]

Yeah from what I'm reading you can expect anywhere from 1 to 2.5 moa with good ammo and vary close to 1 moa with handloads.

Ill probably be putting a vortex razor or something similar to what I would put on another 308 bolt if I built another one. If I end up building a 6.5creedmore bolt I think the scar could fit the bill perfect with the creedmore being the inbetween of the scar and 300wm.

I see myself shooting the scar more than a bolt and would mostly be around my land suppressed. I suppose the 6.5 could satisfy my precison shooting around here so I don't feel like I'm wasting 300wm shorter than 500 yards.

Posted: 4/28/2017 8:50:42 PM EDT

[#3]

I managed to shoot this last weekend at 100yds with handloaded Nosler 155s and 8208 on a load workup. Probably a fluke. Loaded up some more to test further.

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Posted: 4/28/2017 10:25:26 PM EDT

[#4]

i own a scar 16 and 17...i cant say its enough bit i can say its satisfying.

Posted: 4/28/2017 11:02:28 PM EDT

[#5]

Yeah I'm starting to think it's enough. Dmr style shooting with it will be plenty. It's an excuse to get a 6.5cm and to get a scar which has been on my list for a long time.

Posted: 4/29/2017 12:54:17 AM EDT

[#6]

Yes I'm able to shoot sub moa off a bench with mine.

Posted: 4/29/2017 12:42:37 PM EDT

[#7]

There are better options if accuracy is what you're after but if it's what you want then I think it's good enough to be justifiable.

Posted: 4/29/2017 2:10:58 PM EDT

[#8]

Only if better options are around $2000 or have blue label.

Posted: 4/29/2017 5:10:41 PM EDT

[#9]

Mine seems to wander vertically quite a bit when the barrel heats up, I have a recent post about it. I haven't had time to get back to the range and try it again.

I was running a can which probably doesn't help that issue.

Posted: 4/29/2017 8:47:28 PM EDT

[#10]

Hmm that could be a concern since it will be run suppressed almost 100% of the time.

Have to do a little thinking on this.

Scar 17s has always been a gun I have been interested in and handling one it is really light and balanced which I find to be a good thing for female shooter. Just not sure it could 100% take the place of my 308 bolt, a 6.5cm would be a while off to build so I would be stuck with no inbetween the scar and my 300wm for a good while.

Thanks so much for all the replies so far!

Posted: 4/30/2017 1:12:16 AM EDT

[#11]

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Hmm that could be a concern since it will be run suppressed almost 100% of the time.

Have to do a little thinking on this.

Scar 17s has always been a gun I have been interested in and handling one it is really light and balanced which I find to be a good thing for female shooter. Just not sure it could 100% take the place of my 308 bolt, a 6.5cm would be a while off to build so I would be stuck with no inbetween the scar and my 300wm for a good while.

Thanks so much for all the replies so far!

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With the 16" barrel they're good out to 800 but beyond that the bullets are going to start going transsonic so accuracy will drop off. Running them suppressed is fine but the SCARs biggest issue there is the VERY small shoulder so look at the KBB shoulder ring for the SCAR, they work well just be careful when installing whatever mount you use with it. Also look at Parker Mountain Machine for really good gas screws to tune your gun for your ammo and suppressor use. Precision shooting requires a good trigger, a Shooting Sight resides in one of mine. Lastly, get top end scope mounts and good glass. The recoil is different on the SCAR and it requires very good rings, I went with Seekins myself.

Mine have both been great rifles. With some of my old handloads I was getting well under MOA groups at 100. Took a nice mule deer a couple years ago at just under 200.

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:14:46 PM EDT

[#12]

I want to thank everyone for all the replies! I think I've decided to build another 308 bolt gun on a custom action and most likely build an ar10 with heavy barrel maybe before that. With the prices on building my own ar308 gun, ease of heavy barrels, and other accessories it just makes more sense.

I still want into the scar someday but going to keep waiting. It would be no contest if I was able to get ahold of a mk20.

Posted: 5/8/2017 1:20:00 AM EDT

[#13]

Barrel length isn't the only issue. The 1:12 twist barrel sucks, and they don't sell a 1:10 option.

Posted: 5/8/2017 10:07:52 AM EDT

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Barrel length isn't the only issue. The 1:12 twist barrel sucks, and they don't sell a 1:10 option.

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While the twist rate isn't ideal, it far from "sucks". I'd rather have a 1:10 too but the SCAR stabilizes everything up to 175-180 grains fine. All the people clamoring about the 1:12 need to remember this was a purpose designed rifle for the service using some variant of the M80 ball round which are 145-150 grains so it uses a normal lighter weight bullet, not the 180+ that most target shooters are going for.

If you REALLY want a 1:10 for your SCAR for extended range precision target shooting there is an aftermarket company that is making those, they'll even do a barrel swap with you keeping the cost of the new barrel down quite a bit from buying an FNH OEM barrel.

Posted: 5/10/2017 10:29:59 AM EDT

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Barrel length isn't the only issue. The 1:12 twist barrel sucks, and they don't sell a 1:10 option.

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While I do not get the best groups from 175gr FGMM I get excellent groups shooting 168gr FGMM in my 17. The 175 I am still shooting 1.25-1.5MOA vs the 168 which is consistently 1MOA. I could probably do better if I bench shot with a sled but this is all prone shooting.

Posted: 6/22/2017 8:26:24 AM EDT

[#16]

Could a 17 perform the same on plates 1/2moa - 6moa (to scale) at 300,500,600,750,&1000y in a similar capacity to say a proven RPR in 6.5?

Posted: 6/27/2017 11:46:32 AM EDT

[#17]

I get 2 MOA easy with Federal M80

Posted: 6/27/2017 3:26:56 PM EDT

[#18]

You lose lots of energy with the 16" barrel. The SCAR will reach 800yds but the energy isn't there for game takedown. Stay with a 20" barrel if you can.

Everything else has been said. It's a platform that's good at everything but not great at one thing.

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