Why doesnt FN sell pistol versions of the SCAR?

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Posted: 4/15/2016 11:31:47 PM EDT

Is there a reason? Would love to buy a 10.5" scar16 and add a stock after the stamp shows up.

Posted: 4/15/2016 11:38:48 PM EDT

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My guess is military contracts are #1 goal and they seem to be selling every Scar they make on the civilian side.

Posted: 4/17/2016 2:51:05 AM EDT

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Cause FN is a shitty company that makes good products.

Posted: 4/17/2016 5:01:42 AM EDT

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Ya, know, you're right!

Posted: 4/17/2016 10:55:34 AM EDT

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Prolly something to do with importation laws and the way the scars are imported in rifle format

Posted: 4/17/2016 7:58:29 PM EDT

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Its easier to get a pistol in than a rifle... MKE is bringing in all kinds of 'rifles' as pistols, as is CZ with the Bren and Scorpion.

Posted: 4/18/2016 8:44:37 PM EDT

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FN already has the logistics in place to import sporterized SCARs, then de-sporterize them and add the US parts. Be very glad they do the leg work to import an un-neutered military pattern rifle. A 10" factory barrel is $900. The 16" barrel can be sold for $600-$700. Or have Marvin Pitts chop your barrel. If you had a pistol and SBRd it, you would need a stock and 922(r) parts, all of which would make it more costly to SBR a pistol than to SBR the rifle.

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:21:25 PM EDT

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FN already has the logistics in place to import sporterized SCARs, then de-sporterize them and add the US parts. Be very glad they do the leg work to import an un-neutered military pattern rifle. A 10" factory barrel is $900. The 16" barrel can be sold for $600-$700. Or have Marvin Pitts chop your barrel. If you had a pistol and SBRd it, you would need a stock and 922(r) parts, all of which would make it more costly to SBR a pistol than to SBR the rifle.

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FN already has the logistics in place to import pistol SCARs, too, with quite a bit less work. The only reason the short barrels cost more is the limited aftermarket demand. They probably cost the same to make as the full sized barrels.

Everybody is plenty happy to buy what they're offering, but they are missing out by not offering a pistol option.

Posted: 4/20/2016 5:51:26 PM EDT

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This exactly. Once a rifle, never a pistol.

Posted: 4/21/2016 5:26:57 PM EDT

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All they have to do make pistols is not put stocks on them, and put shorter barrels on them. Pretty sure they can handle that...without making a single new part.

Posted: 4/22/2016 6:00:46 PM EDT

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All they have to do make pistols is not put stocks on them, and put shorter barrels on them. Pretty sure they can handle that...without making a single new part.

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That's just it - under current regs the SCAR has to be imported as a rifle. To make the necessary changes takes alot more than you might think...

Posted: 4/22/2016 6:25:08 PM EDT

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That's just it - under current regs the SCAR has to be imported as a rifle. To make the necessary changes takes alot more than you might think...

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All they have to do make pistols is not put stocks on them, and put shorter barrels on them. Pretty sure they can handle that...without making a single new part.

That's just it - under current regs the SCAR has to be imported as a rifle. To make the necessary changes takes alot more than you might think...

It does not "have" to be imported as a rifle, that's a ridiculous statement. Pistol configurations are easier to import.

Posted: 4/22/2016 6:50:10 PM EDT

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It does not "have" to be imported as a rifle, that's a ridiculous statement. Pistol configurations are easier to import.

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All they have to do make pistols is not put stocks on them, and put shorter barrels on them. Pretty sure they can handle that...without making a single new part.

That's just it - under current regs the SCAR has to be imported as a rifle. To make the necessary changes takes alot more than you might think...

It does not "have" to be imported as a rifle, that's a ridiculous statement. Pistol configurations are easier to import.

This was my understanding as well because they wouldn't have to follow 922r. But then if they didn't add the compliance parts the buyer would, which could make it more difficult and expensive in the end for the buyer.

Posted: 4/24/2016 7:03:05 AM EDT

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As an adoring 16 and 17 owner, I was really hoping that FN would release one as well. My interest has faded significantly, if not completely, after adding the 805 Bren pistol (threaded in 1/2x28). The quality (of the lower, the trigger and the action) is top notch - perhaps exceeding that of my beloved Scars. If you like your 16, try to get your hands on the 805.

Posted: 4/24/2016 8:44:26 AM EDT

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They already make the SCAR PDW. They would just need to take the stock off and boom! A 7" SCAR pistol.

Posted: 4/25/2016 12:34:48 AM EDT

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Import of pistols would require FN to get ATF approval of SCAR pistols for importation. Would have to have sufficient points for import. They already have rifles approved for import. I would prefer they simply offer factory SBRs.

Posted: 4/27/2016 2:49:32 PM EDT

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As an adoring 16 and 17 owner, I was really hoping that FN would release one as well. My interest has faded significantly, if not completely, after adding the 805 Bren pistol (threaded in 1/2x28). The quality (of the lower, the trigger and the action) is top notch - perhaps exceeding that of my beloved Scars. If you like your 16, try to get your hands on the 805.

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Don't like how the end user is not able to disassemble the 805 BCG.

Posted: 4/28/2016 8:46:00 AM EDT

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Don't like how the end user is not able to disassemble the 805 BCG.

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As an adoring 16 and 17 owner, I was really hoping that FN would release one as well. My interest has faded significantly, if not completely, after adding the 805 Bren pistol (threaded in 1/2x28). The quality (of the lower, the trigger and the action) is top notch - perhaps exceeding that of my beloved Scars. If you like your 16, try to get your hands on the 805.

Don't like how the end user is not able to disassemble the 805 BCG.

The bolt is user-serviceable and it's very simple to do. I had mine apart last night.

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:17:59 AM EDT

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That's just it - under current regs the SCAR has to be imported as a rifle. To make the necessary changes takes alot more than you might think...

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All they have to do make pistols is not put stocks on them, and put shorter barrels on them. Pretty sure they can handle that...without making a single new part.

That's just it - under current regs the SCAR has to be imported as a rifle. To make the necessary changes takes alot more than you might think...

oh? Like what.

Don't just say "it's a lot more than you think." Tell us what more is involved.

How is it more complicated for FN, then it is for the MKE guns?

Posted: 4/28/2016 10:05:53 AM EDT

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I'd rather they offer factory SBR rifles.

Posted: 4/28/2016 10:14:33 AM EDT

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SBRs are also within their capability, and would be cool, but all a pistol would require is ATF approval... like everyone else is getting right now (MKE, CZ, etc). And some folks like pistols since you don't have to wait for tax stamps to take delivery and go shooting.