Ruger AC556F: Thinking about trading it but need input on SMG choices

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Ruger AC556F: Thinking about trading it but need input on SMG choices

Posted: 11/29/2014 10:31:09 AM EDT

I bought my Ruger AC556F from David Spiwak around 10 years ago and have less than 20 mags through it, I've never installed the Ciener .22lr conversion either, as I tend to just grab the SMG's instead. I'm an 03 FFL/SOT, if I do want to shoot something other than 9mm I have others I could choose from, but have the urge to trade the Ruger for/towards something I'll actually take out and enjoy. To help you with my choices I have chosen (feel free to add your own) here is what I have already:

TRANSFERABLE:
Ruger AC556F
NIB Vector UZI
Mac-11A1

POST-86:
Browning 1919a4
Swedish K
Walther MPK
Colt R0639

TRADE CHOICES:
Sterling...I have two parts kits w/original barrels, 83 Sterling and 59 Sten mags
Swedish K/Port Said...I have the Post-86 K, parts kit w/original barrel, 12 Swedish K mags, 85 Suomi stick mags, 4 coffin mags and 43 drums
BRP STG76W/34K...I have 17 Suomi parts kits, same mags as the Swedish K above
Beretta 38a...I have 3 parts kits w/original barrels and 35 Beretta mags

If you have any experience or advice on any of the choices I'm thinking about trading for/towards I'd appreciate hearing about it...also if you think there are other choices I haven't thought about feel free to mention them. Thanks!

Posted: 11/30/2014 5:17:32 AM EDT

[#1]

I don't think I'd trade it for any of those. I'd probably just sell it outright and then buy something like a pre-sample FAL since you're an SOT. Or add money to it and get an M16.

Posted: 11/30/2014 10:49:13 AM EDT

[#2]

I think the most important consideration is to buy the item you really want most. If one of those is on your list, go for it. If you are a big fan of the Swedish K, a transferable would make a lot of sense given that you have parts and mags, plus you can make the post sample Swede K into a parts kit if/when you give up your SOT. The Sterling is a sweet shooter and would also make sense given that you already own parts and mags.

You don't appear to have a 5.56mm MG other than the AC. Have you considered a transferable M16 or HK sear? This would cost you some extra money over your AC, but the M16 and HK sear are the most versatile transferables around. They also seem to appreciate at a faster rate than other items.

Posted: 11/30/2014 6:14:12 PM EDT

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You don't appear to have a 5.56mm MG other than the AC. Have you considered a transferable M16 or HK sear? This would cost you some extra money over your AC, but the M16 and HK sear are the most versatile transferables around. They also seem to appreciate at a faster rate than other items.

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I agree here

Posted: 11/30/2014 7:57:57 PM EDT

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I think the most important consideration is to buy the item you really want most. If one of those is on your list, go for it. If you are a big fan of the Swedish K, a transferable would make a lot of sense given that you have parts and mags, plus you can make the post sample Swede K into a parts kit if/when you give up your SOT. The Sterling is a sweet shooter and would also make sense given that you already own parts and mags.

You don't appear to have a 5.56mm MG other than the AC. Have you considered a transferable M16 or HK sear? This would cost you some extra money over your AC, but the M16 and HK sear are the most versatile transferables around. They also seem to appreciate at a faster rate than other items.

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Yeah the m16/hk route allows you to have multiple MGs in multiple caliber for the price of one transferable.

Posted: 11/30/2014 11:24:26 PM EDT

[#5]

Thanks for your input guys I appreciate it!

I "personally" don't have a 5.56 MG but our 03 FFL/SOT has many M-16's and MP5's (as well as others) that I have access to and can shoot at any time. With that in mind I don't want to tie up that much money in a Transferable M-16, MP5 or sears. I could sell the AC556 but I'd much rather trade as it's a lot less of a tax hassle than selling and then buying something else...IRS audit is no fun even when you prevail.

As far as a Pre-86 that isn't an option as our FFL is not a sole proprietor so even if I lived in a state that allows citizens to privately own NFA (Iowa does not) I couldn't keep them if we were to give up the SOT. We do have a Post-86 FAL and it is a lot of fun to shoot.

I'm more of a 9mm SMG guy and that is why I concentrated on the 4 choices I mentioned before as they're similar in value to the AC556 and I've been getting spare parts and mags for those choices for awhile. Other than the Swedish K I've never shot my other 3 choices and wondered what you guys thought of them that had shot or owned them?

Sure I wish I had bought a M-16 when they were much cheaper, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over not owning one as I don't go shooting that often anyway to justify spending that much money right now. Other than private property there's nowhere to really shoot them in this state as all public ranges are DNR and forbid machineguns.

Although I'm not looking for an M-16/sear or MP-5/sear I appreciate your input and comments and live vicariously through the posts that you guys make who do own and shoot them.

Posted: 12/5/2014 12:42:24 AM EDT

[#6]

While an HK sear would be a lot more money, there is so much more than shooting a MP5. I have one or more clones of MP5K, MP5K PDW, MP5K built with a full size receiver, MP5 SD, MP5K-40 PDW, MP5-40, MP5-40 SD, MP5K-10 PDW, MP5K-45X built with a full size receiver, full size MP5-45, the list goes on... There is also for 5.56X45 the 53K AR with a 5.1" barrel, that uses AR mags. Plus 53 AR, 33K AR, and 33, just for fun. I have far more in hosts than current market value for a sear. Why, because one HK conversion device can do all that and more.

If you like the AR but not in rifle caliber, my DIAS with a custom modified MGI magwell that uses modified Thompson mags (think converted Uzi mags) with a Ron Williams .45 direct impingement shoots as smooth as a 9mm roller locked gun with the knock down of .45 ACP. On the other end of the spectrum is my 20" water cooled upper with KNS spade grip lower with a Valkyrie Armaments belt feed conversion. Check YouTube under "500 rd burst". My wife uses the water cooled set up to burn 500 rds in about a minute. 200 rd SAW boxes and this set up on a MG42 tripod is light and easy to set up for a water cooled belt fed and you can stand or sit.

Other than that, I'd see about trading the AC556 for a M11/9 and a M10. There are big things brewing for the MAC family of RRs. The S.A.B.R.E. 5.56 upper fell on its face. It was way too heavy and AA/MAG Tactical couldn't bother to answer the phone. Mark my words, within the next five years, the M10 and/or M11/9 will be doing rifle calibers conversions and jump in value. YMMV.

Scott

Posted: 12/5/2014 3:59:32 PM EDT

[#7]

Why don't you just get a lage upper for the m11?

Posted: 12/6/2014 12:54:21 AM EDT

[#8]

I have a Lage Max-11a1/9 and a Max-31a upper for the Mac.

While the HK sear is a great option if you bought it and all the hosts back when they were much cheaper...unfortunately I didn't. If I get the urge I can always shoot one of our MP5 variants that we have but I don't shoot them very often...my Walther MPK on the other hand is a lot of fun to shoot and some even prefer it to the MP5.

Posted: 1/4/2015 12:12:36 PM EDT

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