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Posted: 6/16/2014 2:58:25 AM EDT
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You could go either way with that. It's not an SBS until you add a buttstock directly to this firearm, the host rifle's buttstock does not qualify.
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Posted: 6/16/2014 4:34:15 AM EDT
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Make it fire .410 and you wouldn't need anything
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Posted: 6/16/2014 4:37:43 AM EDT
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Make it fire .410 and you wouldn't need anything how so? |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 7:21:44 AM EDT
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Make it fire .410 and you wouldn't need anything how so? Straight rifling and make it fire 45 colt or .410 and you are gtg. Then it's just another handgun. Smooth bore pistols are AOW, unless I'm mistaken. Much like the Taurus judge or the bond derringers. |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 12:07:51 PM EDT
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How I understand it
is while .410 does come in shot shell form its not a shot gun thats how the judge and others exist... basically you would have a 2 barrel pistol. ... this interests me |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 2:45:36 PM EDT
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How I understand it is while .410 does come in shot shell form its not a shot gun thats how the judge and others exist... basically you would have a 2 barrel pistol. ... this interests me The .410 is considered a "shotshell". Any smooth-bore long gun that loads and chambers this load exclusively is considered a "shotgun". The Judge and other similar pistols avoid the NFA by having a rifled bore. It's basically a .45 Long Colt pistol that just happens to also chamber a .410 shotshell. |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 4:07:41 PM EDT
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Been done befo'
Lemat 42cal and 16ga. 
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Posted: 6/18/2014 2:14:01 AM EDT
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i was thinking 12 or 20 gauge
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Posted: 6/18/2014 4:14:48 AM EDT
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You're looking for the Hera HASTA
And it would be an AOW. Unless you attach a stock, then it would be an SBS. As stated above, the host weapons stock doesn't count. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 4:46:12 AM EDT
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You could go either way with that. It's not an SBS until you add a buttstock directly to this firearm, the host rifle's buttstock does not qualify. So if I attach my Remington 870 AOW to my SBR that's legal? |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 4:52:37 AM EDT
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So if I attach my Remington 870 AOW to my SBR that's legal? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could go either way with that. It's not an SBS until you add a buttstock directly to this firearm, the host rifle's buttstock does not qualify. So if I attach my Remington 870 AOW to my SBR that's legal? Yes. There's an ATF letter floating around somewhere, I'd try to find it but it's about time for shift change. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 8:05:41 AM EDT
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You're looking for the Hera HASTA 
. The Crye Six-12 is interesting, just large. Lots of polymer, so maybe it doesn't weight a ton. 
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Posted: 6/18/2014 8:21:24 AM EDT
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The Crye Six-12 is interesting, just large. Lots of polymer, so maybe it doesn't weight a ton. I'm more interested in it as a standalone. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 10:15:45 AM EDT
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I'm more interested in it as a standalone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Crye Six-12 is interesting, just large. Lots of polymer, so maybe it doesn't weight a ton. http://cdn.gunsamerica.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Crye-Precision002.jpg I'm more interested in it as a standalone. 
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Posted: 6/18/2014 2:40:54 PM EDT
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You're looking for the Hera HASTA http://www.guns-aws.com/media/wysiwyg/hasta3.jpg And it would be an AOW. Unless you attach a stock, then it would be an SBS. As stated above, the host weapons stock doesn't count. um, i dont think that will mount on a pistol rail? |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 3:07:41 PM EDT
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um, i dont think that will mount on a pistol rail? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're looking for the Hera HASTA http://www.guns-aws.com/media/wysiwyg/hasta3.jpg And it would be an AOW. Unless you attach a stock, then it would be an SBS. As stated above, the host weapons stock doesn't count. um, i dont think that will mount on a pistol rail? Well anything that WILL fit on a pistol rail to fire a shotgun shell will: A. Have very low velocity. B. It will probably rip your dust cover off in short order. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 3:20:00 PM EDT
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Yes. There's an ATF letter floating around somewhere, I'd try to find it but it's about time for shift change. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could go either way with that. It's not an SBS until you add a buttstock directly to this firearm, the host rifle's buttstock does not qualify. So if I attach my Remington 870 AOW to my SBR that's legal? Yes. There's an ATF letter floating around somewhere, I'd try to find it but it's about time for shift change. Unless you personally have the letter from Tech, attaching an AOW to a rifle, SBR or otherwise, constitutes attaching a stock to an AOW making it a SBS. If you think the risk is worth up to 10 years and/or $250,000.00, don't worry about submitting a letter to Tech. |
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Posted: 6/18/2014 4:26:30 PM EDT
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Well anything that WILL fit on a pistol rail to fire a shotgun shell will: A. Have very low velocity. B. It will probably rip your dust cover off in short order. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're looking for the Hera HASTA http://www.guns-aws.com/media/wysiwyg/hasta3.jpg And it would be an AOW. Unless you attach a stock, then it would be an SBS. As stated above, the host weapons stock doesn't count. um, i dont think that will mount on a pistol rail? Well anything that WILL fit on a pistol rail to fire a shotgun shell will: A. Have very low velocity. B. It will probably rip your dust cover off in short order. where in my post did i ask if it was a good idea? |
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Posted: 6/20/2014 1:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could go either way with that. It's not an SBS until you add a buttstock directly to this firearm, the host rifle's buttstock does not qualify. If this is true, how is the MasterKey an SBS? |
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Posted: 6/20/2014 1:46:31 PM EDT
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where in my post did i ask if it was a good idea? 
Anything but an Aguila mini-shell is going to be longer than most any handgun rail, ignoring the need for a barrel and firing mechanism.... Sure, I could build you a bloop tube to clamp on your Glock. It will go boom at least once. |
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Posted: 6/20/2014 5:18:39 PM EDT
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If this is true, how is the MasterKey an SBS? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could go either way with that. It's not an SBS until you add a buttstock directly to this firearm, the host rifle's buttstock does not qualify. If this is true, how is the MasterKey an SBS? There are both AOW and SBS-registered KAC Masterkeys. KAC registers most of them as SBS for logistical and practical reasons. They make a standalone adapter for it, so as an SBS there is no legal ssue using it with their standalone kit. It also alleviates a supply problem in getting bare receivers from Remington. But they do make it in AOW as well. Neither classification affects the intended use of attaching to a rifle. |
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Posted: 6/20/2014 7:37:14 PM EDT
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AOW or SBS, your probably better off with SBS. It's still going to be 200 on a form one since your going to make it, might as well cover all the bases while your at it.
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Posted: 6/23/2014 10:44:57 AM EDT
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AOW or SBS, your probably better off with SBS. It's still going to be 200 on a form one since your going to make it, might as well cover all the bases while your at it. Uhh, isn't AOW only $5? |
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Posted: 6/23/2014 10:56:58 AM EDT
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Uhh, isn't AOW only $5? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AOW or SBS, your probably better off with SBS. It's still going to be 200 on a form one since your going to make it, might as well cover all the bases while your at it. Uhh, isn't AOW only $5? AOW is $5 to transfer, all Form 1s are $200. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 7:49:41 PM EDT
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The only reason to go AOW is to avoid a 5320.20
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Posted: 6/29/2014 5:13:26 AM EDT
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There's also this thing!
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