WW2 Russian mortar, does it need to be deactivated?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - WW2 Russian mortar, does it need to be deactivated?

Posted: 9/13/2014 2:46:38 PM EDT

Let's say hypothetically...

Person bought a WW2 Russian 50mm mortar from SARCO in the 960s. The mortar has the firing pin still in cup, no hole cut in the tube, and no cross bars welded inside the tube. Apparently this was legal to sell in the 1960s, is it still legal to own or sell under today's laws/regulations?

Posted: 9/13/2014 3:34:15 PM EDT

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Let's say hypothetically...

Person bought a WW2 Russian 50mm mortar from SARCO in the 960s. The mortar has the firing pin still in cup, no hole cut in the tube, and no cross bars welded inside the tube. Apparently this was legal to sell in the 1960s, is it still legal to own or sell under today's laws/regulations?

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Hypothetically, a person who maintains OPSEC could file a form1 and have a legal mortar after they "reactivated" it.
Going to jail sucks so if you find yourself with an unregistered DD the thing to do is call ATF and turn it in. They will be glad to destroy it for you. Or maybe add it to their collection.

Posted: 9/13/2014 4:12:01 PM EDT

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Let's say hypothetically...

Person bought a WW2 Russian 50mm mortar from SARCO in the 960s. The mortar has the firing pin still in cup, no hole cut in the tube, and no cross bars welded inside the tube. Apparently this was legal to sell in the 1960s, is it still legal to own or sell under today's laws/regulations?

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Hypothetically...well...fuck hypotheticals.

A mortar cup without a tube is a title 1 firearm, just like any rifle or pistol. So IF one had a cup that was not attached to a tube, they could register it as a DD on a Form 1 and then acquire a tube for it.

Posted: 9/13/2014 4:16:36 PM EDT

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So it was legal to own in the 1960s when SARCO was selling them, but now it is illegal unless demilled.

I had a person ask about it at the store. She inherited the mortar from a deceased relative. I advised her that I thought it was a DD, but I wanted to make certain.

Posted: 9/13/2014 4:36:57 PM EDT

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So it was legal to own in the 1960s when SARCO was selling them, but now it is illegal unless demilled.

I had a person ask about it at the store. She inherited the mortar from a deceased relative. I advised her that I thought it was a DD, but I wanted to make certain.

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Thank congress and the GCA1968

Posted: 9/13/2014 4:50:50 PM EDT

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So it was legal to own in the 1960s when SARCO was selling them, but now it is illegal unless demilled.

I had a person ask about it at the store. She inherited the mortar from a deceased relative. I advised her that I thought it was a DD, but I wanted to make certain.

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You need a stamp if you have the live cup and live barrel. Live cups possessed without a barrel are title 1 firearms, just like M203 receivers from LMT that are live and complete, but transfer as a title 1 firearm if you buy it without the barrel. Once you possess both you are in trouble without a stamp.

Posted: 10/3/2014 8:18:17 PM EDT

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Should in theory buy it from her then..... Well, ya know.

Posted: 10/11/2014 2:40:24 PM EDT

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So it was legal to own in the 1960s when SARCO was selling them, but now it is illegal unless demilled.

I had a person ask about it at the store. She inherited the mortar from a deceased relative. I advised her that I thought it was a DD, but I wanted to make certain.

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the tube and cup need to be physically separates.....as in different locations NOT under the control of the same person. the Cup can be registered via form 1, engraved, and then the tube and cup can be mated. TOGETHER they are a DD. Apart they are a title 1 firearm, and a piece of Pipe.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - WW2 Russian mortar, does it need to be deactivated?

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