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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:58:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: Are y’all saying it takes CA 3+ weeks to ship the can, after it’s been approved? They notify the CLEO and there is a waiting period after notification. They explain it pretty well. It adds time but the convenience of this is worth it to me due to my work schedule. My late December submission was approved on 02/14 and my cans are supposed to ship by 02/29. So far, I'm loving this whole deal. I love that I no longer have to drag my ass down town to get fingerprints and meet the Sheriff (long time ago) and now with this I don't even have to go pick them up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 11:46:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: Are y’all saying it takes CA 3+ weeks to ship the can, after it’s been approved? It's pretty variable depending on CLEO notifications, holidays, weekends, etc. I can see how the convenience is great for folks who are far from their dealer, work odd shifts, busy with work, etc. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 11:53:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: alpha0815]
[#3]
Im only a month in from submission on my first CA can and I completely get how it’s more convenient for some folks but I have a great SOT / SilencerShop dealer nearby.
They certify the day they receive the can from SS (1 week) and I get to pick it up the day the approval hits my inbox. I’ll have to read up on the CLEO thing. Not sure why SS is able to handle it prior to receiving stamp. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 7:52:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quintin: ATF emailed me an approved F4 today, 2/13. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quintin: Originally Posted By Quintin: Alright, I'm officially in the game. Purchased 10/19 Docusign 11/3 (had to send fingerprint cards, tried to get them electronically scanned locally, it was a mess, 0/10 do not recommend, just mail in OG fingerprint cards, it's easier) F4 certified and submitted 11/7 Sent to CLEO 2/20 |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 12:26:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: Are y’all saying it takes CA 3+ weeks to ship the can, after it’s been approved? Mine usually takes a week and a half to ship. I have a CLEO that always accepts the certified mail quickly. I had an issue initially having the 4473 sent to my local CLEO and it took 2 - 3 weeks for the certified mail receipt to be available. Since using my state CLEO, it has went much smoother. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2024 1:18:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: I'll have to read up on the CLEO thing. Not sure why SS is able to handle it prior to receiving stamp. Once the can is in the dealer's hands, SS is out of the picture (other than populating the F4 for the dealer). It's between you and your local dealer after that. CA provides the service of both the sale and the transfer. Since they do it via online docs and shipping the can to you, the FATF requires extra hoops to jump through. Extra security theater apparently makes the ATF feel better. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 3:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: SS is not shipping to your door. They sell you the can, F3 it to your local dealer and the dealer does the transfer to you over the counter. Once the can is in the dealer's hands, SS is out of the picture (other than populating the F4 for the dealer). It's between you and your local dealer after that. CA provides the service of both the sale and the transfer. Since they do it via online docs and shipping the can to you, the FATF requires extra hoops to jump through. Extra security theater apparently makes the ATF feel better. yes, this. still, imo, using CA was easier than SS, but you do you. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 4:17:53 PM EDT
[#8]
I don't really have any complaints, I just think I'll only use them if they have something in stock that SS doesn't have at the time (Like this RC2).
The "Ship to your home" is convenient if you don't have an FFL that deals with NFA transfers nearby. My OCL Polonium from SS was approved 4 days after my RC2 from CA, by the time I get the RC2 I'll have had the Polo in my possession for 3+ weeks. I fully understand why, so I'm not knocking them because of that. 
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Posted: 2/28/2024 8:15:59 PM EDT
[#9]
My first box of cans arrived today from Griffin Armament direct sales via Capitol Armory. The whole thing was smooth and convenient. I foresee using Capitol Armory future purchases. Silencer Shop purchases always went smoothly as well, but getting the items shipped right to my house adds another level of convenience.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2024 8:46:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: I don't really have any complaints, I just think I'll only use them if they have something in stock that SS doesn't have at the time (Like this RC2). The "Ship to your home" is convenient if you don't have an FFL that deals with NFA transfers nearby. My OCL Polonium from SS was approved 4 days after my RC2 from CA, by the time I get the RC2 I'll have had the Polo in my possession for 3+ weeks. I fully understand why, so I'm not knocking them because of that. https://i.imgur.com/IYOquOH.jpg Were they both submitted at the same time? |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 9:36:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: I don't really have any complaints, I just think I'll only use them if they have something in stock that SS doesn't have at the time (Like this RC2). The "Ship to your home" is convenient if you don't have an FFL that deals with NFA transfers nearby. My OCL Polonium from SS was approved 4 days after my RC2 from CA, by the time I get the RC2 I'll have had the Polo in my possession for 3+ weeks. I fully understand why, so I'm not knocking them because of that. https://i.imgur.com/IYOquOH.jpg I started using SS because I could buy a can no matter where I was on the planet. I bought 5 or 6 cans while I was in South Korea, Doha and Dubai. I stopped using SS because of their need to certify in person. I have more than a few SS dealers at home, but I’m still not home for a good portion of the year. CA let’s me buy no matter where I’m at and that alone makes it worth the 2 extra weeks it takes me to get my cans after the stamp comes back. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 8:43:53 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: I started using SS because I could buy a can no matter where I was on the planet. I bought 5 or 6 cans while I was in South Korea, Doha and Dubai. I stopped using SS because of their need to certify in person. I have more than a few SS dealers at home, but I’m still not home for a good portion of the year. CA let’s me buy no matter where I’m at and that alone makes it worth the 2 extra weeks it takes me to get my cans after the stamp comes back. You had to Certify in person with SS??? Dang Everything was identical for me besides having .eft fingerprint cards made so I could do that digitally for CA instead of mailing in physical FD-258s. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 8:47:00 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By koz4guns: Were they both submitted at the same time? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By koz4guns: Originally Posted By slowkota1: I don't really have any complaints, I just think I'll only use them if they have something in stock that SS doesn't have at the time (Like this RC2). The "Ship to your home" is convenient if you don't have an FFL that deals with NFA transfers nearby. My OCL Polonium from SS was approved 4 days after my RC2 from CA, by the time I get the RC2 I'll have had the Polo in my possession for 3+ weeks. I fully understand why, so I'm not knocking them because of that. https://i.imgur.com/IYOquOH.jpg Were they both submitted at the same time? Certified 4 days apart. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 9:29:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: You had to Certify in person with SS??? Dang Everything was identical for me besides having .eft fingerprint cards made so I could do that digitally for CA instead of mailing in physical FD-258s. I haven’t done anything with SS since the certification nonsense came into play. For half of the year or better I can’t go to an SS dealer to certify. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 9:54:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BullpupFan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: I haven’t done anything with SS since the certification nonsense came into play. For half of the year or better I can’t go to an SS dealer to certify. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: Originally Posted By slowkota1: You had to Certify in person with SS??? Dang Everything was identical for me besides having .eft fingerprint cards made so I could do that digitally for CA instead of mailing in physical FD-258s. I haven’t done anything with SS since the certification nonsense came into play. For half of the year or better I can’t go to an SS dealer to certify. Yeah, thread’s getting off topic but FWIW I certified via online session with my local SS dealer on 12-11-2023 so the in-person “requirement” is news to me. I wonder if less tech savvy SS dealers are the issue? Ironically I certified in person with CA on a business trip and that was clearly NOT the typical/desired way to do it but they were happy to accommodate me. I appreciate SS blazing the trail they did and there are advantages to both systems so I’m a satisfied customer of both. Back to discussing experiences with CA! |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 10:22:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BullpupFan: Yeah, thread's getting off topic but FWIW I certified via online session with my local SS dealer on 12-11-2023 so the in-person "requirement" is news to me. I wonder if less tech savvy SS dealers are the issue? Ironically I certified in person with CA on a business trip and that was clearly NOT the typical/desired way to do it but they were happy to accommodate me. I appreciate SS blazing the trail they did and there are advantages to both systems so I'm a satisfied customer of both. Back to discussing experiences with CA! |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 11:12:24 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Certified 4 days apart. But most people like me had to wait 2 weeks on the front end of the SS process for them to ship the suppressor to the local dealer. So usually you have a wait on the front end before you certify or a wait on the back end after the approval, most people forget about the wait on the front. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:18:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cardboardkiller]
[#18]
OCL Titanium:
Individual EFT prints Bought: 2-10-2024 Signed: 2-11-2024 Certified: 2-12-2024 Submitted: 2-12-2024 Approved: 2-29-2024 Examiner: Emmanuel Andino  I’m out of town for work, so it’ll be about 3 weeks before I fill out the 4473. Last time it was about 2 weeks from 4473 to my door. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:42:08 PM EDT
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Got my 338ultra SR approved two days ago. Submitted Jan 15. Filled out my 4473 and Cleo online that night. CA sent me an email saying it would be 14 business days (aka 3 weeks) for waiting on Cleo to acknowledge receipt then the 7 day waiting period. Then x more days of shipping
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:44:11 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: OCL Titanium: Individual EFT prints Bought: 2-10-2024 Signed: 2-11-2024 Certified: 2-12-2024 Submitted: 2-12-2024 Approved: 2-29-2024 Examiner: Emmanuel Andino https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31823/IMG_8516-3144965.jpg I’m out of town for work, so it’ll be about 3 weeks before I fill out the 4473. Last time it was about 2 weeks from 4473 to my door. I just got my Lithium a few weeks ago. Paired with a YHM Tri Lug and it is awesome on my SP5K-PDW. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 3:57:12 PM EDT
[#21]
Just got the eForm notification of approval. 1 month and 5 days.
Will CA send out an email on the 4473 request? If so, how long does it usually take for them to make that happen now that it's "approved". |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:03:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FAL]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: Just got the eForm notification of approval. 1 month and 5 days. Will CA send out an email on the 4473 request? If so, how long does it usually take for them to make that happen now that it's "approved". |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:13:44 PM EDT
[#23]
I’m tempted to buy one as an individual vs trust just to see what happens. Seems like all these quickies are individual Have 2 from 12/2/23 still waiting for on a trust.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:33:17 PM EDT
[#24]
With E-forms down it made me sad. I had 2 more cans in my cart. so I guess the question is if they keep eff forms down do we go to paper? how does that work?
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Posted: 2/29/2024 5:08:16 PM EDT
[#25]
I was just sitting here wondering the same thing. I’ve got five more cans that are paid for but haven’t transferred to my local dealer yet.
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Posted: 3/7/2024 12:19:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bad2006z71]
[#26]
Thinking about my 1st Capitol armory purchase.
Is the NFAReview/BATFE Form 4 transfer fee the $200 tax stamp or is this an additional fee CA charges and I still pay the $200 tax stamp? Edit: Read the FAQ section and looks like that was for the tax stamp. Placed my 1st order. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 12:51:38 PM EDT
[#27]
This wait today, seems longer than waiting for approval.
 Gimme gimme! 
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Posted: 3/7/2024 12:55:13 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: Thinking about my 1st Capitol armory purchase. Is the NFAReview/BATFE Form 4 transfer fee the $200 tax stamp or is this an additional fee CA charges and I still pay the $200 tax stamp? Thats your stamp. 👍 |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 12:58:55 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Thats your stamp. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Thinking about my 1st Capitol armory purchase. Is the NFAReview/BATFE Form 4 transfer fee the $200 tax stamp or is this an additional fee CA charges and I still pay the $200 tax stamp? Thats your stamp. Yea it was throwing me off as it was $184, found out it auto applied a discount code on the stamp. Still will be a couple of bucks higher than my local dealer due to shipping, but the local guy doesn't have one right now. It's my suppressor and I want it now.
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Posted: 3/10/2024 6:18:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quintin: 4473 was completed on 2/15 Sent to CLEO 2/20 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quintin: Originally Posted By Quintin: Originally Posted By Quintin: Alright, I'm officially in the game. Purchased 10/19 Docusign 11/3 (had to send fingerprint cards, tried to get them electronically scanned locally, it was a mess, 0/10 do not recommend, just mail in OG fingerprint cards, it's easier) F4 certified and submitted 11/7 Sent to CLEO 2/20 So far this whole process couldn't be easier. Looking forward to buying my next can from Capitol. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 10:28:48 AM EDT
[#31]
Just called to certify. Process so far has been easy and fairly quick. Here's hoping for a 2day approval like my Mustang earlier this month
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Posted: 3/11/2024 1:20:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Got her on the 7th
 New can, who dis? |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2024 9:17:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Glocked]
[#33]
3 more approvals from Capitol last week. 1st was a single approval, 2nd & 3rd were batch approved after contacting an examiner.
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Posted: 3/11/2024 9:55:02 PM EDT
[#34]
Trying my hand at the direct from Griffin via Capitol Armory deal. Their military discount is just too good not take advantage of. Got a Resistance 9 pending and really contemplating an Explorr. So far the process has been simple.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 6:34:03 AM EDT
[#35]
Giving Capital Armory a try. They had just relieved the Nomad L in stock and apparently it was the last/only one.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 10:15:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
[#36]
Got my first approval via CA today. In hand by EOW?
Also ordered a Rugged Mustang 22 this morning. Approvals this quick are going to be expensive.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 11:55:27 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Approvals this quick are going to be expensive.  I guess that's par for the course in an election year. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 1:57:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: slowkota1]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Got my first approval via CA today. In hand by EOW? Also ordered a Rugged Mustang 22 this morning. Approvals this quick are going to be expensive. Lol... No. You have to wait until they have you sign the 4473, and fill out your CLEO info. They then mail that out. Once recieved you'll be notified of the 7 day waiting period before they ship it. You're looking at ~3-4 weeks *Edit, I see you're in TX... So it'll probably be a lot quicker than us out of staters. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:40:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Lol... No. You have to wait until they have you sign the 4473, and fill out your CLEO info. They then mail that out. Once recieved you'll be notified of the 7 day waiting period before they ship it. You're looking at ~3-4 weeks *Edit, I see you're in TX... So it'll probably be a lot quicker than us out of staters.  Hmm. Guess I'll keep my local LGS busy then. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:55:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Got my first approval via CA today. In hand by EOW? Also ordered a Rugged Mustang 22 this morning. Approvals this quick are going to be expensive. Definitely not. I’m JUST getting mine today that was approved 3 weeks ago. There’s still a ways to go in the process. Not complaining. Capital makes it easy AF every step of the way. But the one advantage to a local dealer is you can go get it same or next day after approval. Not the case ordering through CA. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:01:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TactiCoolBro: Definitely not. I’m JUST getting mine today that was approved 3 weeks ago. There’s still a ways to go in the process. Not complaining. Capital makes it easy AF every step of the way. But the one advantage to a local dealer is you can go get it same or next day after approval. Not the case ordering through CA. On the other hand, if you're sufficiently motivated, Austin is just a day trip away from pretty much any corner of Texas. 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2024 2:09:37 PM EDT
[#42]
I just submitted my eform 4 with CA a few minutes ago. Reviewing the form I noticed a space was left out on my middle name. My middle name is just 2 letters with a space between them but on the form, the space is left out. This wouldn't be grounds for disapproval right?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 7:15:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeffhsu95: I just submitted my eform 4 with CA a few minutes ago. Reviewing the form I noticed a space was left out on my middle name. My middle name is just 2 letters with a space between them but on the form, the space is left out. This wouldn't be grounds for disapproval right? But on the other hand, it wouldn't hurt to contact Capitol and see what they say. You're only one day in, so they could cancel it and resubmit. It would suck to wait six months and get denied over something as simple as that. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:34:09 PM EDT
[#44]
I just bought a Dual-lok 7 from Griffin. They do "to your door" via Capitol, so my first go around with this. If it works ok, I'll probably go this route again. Every dealer in a reasonable driving distance to me is "powered by Silencer Shop" I'll be fine if I never deal with that BS again.
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Posted: 3/15/2024 4:17:48 PM EDT
[#45]
I bought a Resilient Jolene today. First through Capitol.... going to try to get in on this fast individual approval train.
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Posted: 3/15/2024 4:42:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By monkeypunch: I bought a Resilient Jolene today. First through Capitol.... going to try to get in on this fast individual approval train. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:12:47 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: This is happening across the board. I've had the same experience with an LGS and with my local FFL using SS. I was trying to get a OCL Hydrogen L to hop on, but no one has them. May end up being a blessing. The Jolene is lighter and performed very close to the Hydrogen in Pew tests and the Silencer Summitt. This will live on a precision hunting gun, and the Nomad L hanging off the end now is just a bit heavy. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:23:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Got a promotion so just ordered Recce 5 from griffin. Fingers crossed I hit the approval lottery. Been wanting a lighter 556 can since my only other rifle can is a 762 Specwar
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:38:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: I just bought a Dual-lok 7 from Griffin. They do "to your door" via Capitol, so my first go around with this. If it works ok, I'll probably go this route again. Every dealer in a reasonable driving distance to me is "powered by Silencer Shop" I'll be fine if I never deal with that BS again. I got my HRT 556 from Griffin through this service. It was a very smooth process and almost identical to the process when purchasing directly through CA with the only difference being where you purchase the can. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 10:58:00 PM EDT
[#50]
I bought my explorer 300 2 days ago, I got the email to do the finger print ( I have an ETF ) and setup up my profile yesterday morning, now silence ( not a pun ). Waiting to to the form 4 stuff, please CA don't forget about me.
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