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Posted: 2/19/2017 10:02:43 PM EDT
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I think its the Delta P Brevis II Ultra.
Someone correct me if I am wrong. SAS Eadrom almost as light but two inches longer |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 10:04:23 PM EDT
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Delta p design Brevis II ultra
Direct thread 3.7" and 6.5oz, it's 3D printed titanium. It's technically not rated for full auto but I do Mag dumps with mine all the time. It's not the quietest suppressor on the market but Def comparable to a full sized suppressor. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 6:29:21 PM EDT
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I've always enjoyed my AAC Mini556.
Not the lightest or shortest but recesses over mount and only adds a little over 2", is light enough, more robust than titanium, and still has the benefit of quick detachment. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 6:59:04 PM EDT
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I like the mini4 I'm still waiting on mine. But it's a good price for a compact 5.56 can
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:53:52 PM EDT
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The Brevis is definitely the shortest, but also probably the fattest and runs somewhere near $1500. As someone else mentioned the SAS Eadrom is 5.5" long (adds only 4') and weighs 9 oz (goes for just under $1k). There's also the Innovative Arms Grunt Mini which is only 5" long, but is direct thread and weighs 13 oz ($500-$600 range).
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:14:59 PM EDT
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direct thread omega with a flat end cap is 6". not sure about the weight
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Posted: 2/20/2017 9:14:17 PM EDT
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The Brevis is definitely the shortest, but also probably the fattest and runs somewhere near $1500. As someone else mentioned the SAS Eadrom is 5.5" long (adds only 4') and weighs 9 oz (goes for just under $1k). There's also the Innovative Arms Grunt Mini which is only 5" long, but is direct thread and weighs 13 oz ($500-$600 range). Last I checked Mile High in Colorado had the older Eadrom on closeout at or below $500. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:05:56 PM EDT
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Last I checked Mile High in Colorado had the older Eadrom on closeout at or below $500. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:16:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryScrew that heavy thing, just go with a bare muzzle. 0 oz, 0", $0. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:37:46 PM EDT
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direct thread omega with a flat end cap is 6". not sure about the weight Mine is 11.5oz with the Ti ends. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 11:10:10 PM EDT
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Trek T is a decent option at 5.7 inches and 10 oz.
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Posted: 2/21/2017 1:30:53 AM EDT
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Trek T is a decent option at 5.7 inches and 10 oz. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 3:19:35 AM EDT
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Nobody going to say Surefire Mini? Definitely takes the edge off, but its better on my 16" barreled Aug than anything shorter.
Trek T is probably the shortest and lightest that is hearing safe on anything short. I like the Surefire, but I pretty much run it on 16" barreled bullpups or my SBR'd PS90. If it was my one and only 5.56 can I would probably be disappointed. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 6:04:54 AM EDT
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direct thread omega with a flat end cap is 6". not sure about the weight Iirc, with Ti DT module and endcap weight is 11.1oz and 13.3oz with OEM DT and flat endcap. These weights were posted in the Omega Modularity thread. JPK |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 1:50:35 PM EDT
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honorable mention goes to the gemtech trek-T, weighing in at 10.7 ounces and 5.7"
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Posted: 2/21/2017 1:59:13 PM EDT
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Tag cause I want something for Run & Gun on my 12" 5.56.
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Posted: 2/21/2017 2:55:43 PM EDT
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Tag cause I want something for Run & Gun on my 12" 5.56. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 4:41:17 PM EDT
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I run a SAS Eadrom on my LWRC 8.5 PSD crazy light, and sounds great. No ear pro needed. Meters around the 138 mark.
Eadrom MX Dt 9ozs, 5.5 " Plus you going go get 60-70% less blow back in your face. The MX baffles are great. Thanks Steve RLTW 816-718-9489 |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 2:20:09 PM EDT
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I'm happy with my SOCOM mini, doesn't do as much as my SOCOM-RC, but.. duh.
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Posted: 2/22/2017 2:20:28 PM EDT
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honorable mention goes to the gemtech trek-T, weighing in at 10.7 ounces and 5.7" after looking at all of them I got the trek-for the features its the best IMO. weight/sound/quality all what I wanted-price didn't matter |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 2:31:28 PM EDT
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If the Brevis is too expensive, the Amtac CQB also only adds 3.7" to the end of the barrel for about half the price. It is 20 oz but I don't know how that compares from the shooter's perspective as most of the weight is behind the muzzle. The user reports I've seen indicate it doesn't produce a noticeable increase in backpressure.
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Posted: 2/22/2017 4:14:21 PM EDT
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20z is heavy no matter where you hang it. Given their volume I dont doubt those have much less of an effect on backpressure than the shorter stuff being discussed here. Their baffle design is certainly interesting considering the types being used in most if not all other established brands.
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Posted: 2/22/2017 4:19:04 PM EDT
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Tag cause I want something for Run & Gun on my 12" 5.56. I'm pretty sure we've both run the same events. Just an observation, doing those run n guns with cans is a pain in the ass when the can is hot and you have to sling the rifle for an obstacle or pistol stage. I don't take mine to those events anymore. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 5:35:40 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure we've both run the same events. Just an observation, doing those run n guns with cans is a pain in the ass when the can is hot and you have to sling the rifle for an obstacle or pistol stage. I don't take mine to those events anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tag cause I want something for Run & Gun on my 12" 5.56. I'm pretty sure we've both run the same events. Just an observation, doing those run n guns with cans is a pain in the ass when the can is hot and you have to sling the rifle for an obstacle or pistol stage. I don't take mine to those events anymore. You just hush..... 
#Minicanjustification. 
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Posted: 2/22/2017 9:54:17 PM EDT
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Trek T is a decent option at 5.7 inches and 10 oz. Sucks they don't make them anymore. I have one. Its sweet on my LW 20". |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 11:03:59 PM EDT
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Any thoughts on the aem2 (or m4s)?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:01:38 AM EDT
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I have a Delta P Design Brevis II Ultra on order to use with my 12.5" Mid. Talking to the owner Byron, I shouldn't be able to tell a difference between a full size 556 can and the Brevis II Ultra on the 12.5" barrel. While it will be noticeably louder with barrels shorter than 12" so I'm hoping that it works out that way. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 12:57:12 PM EDT
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I've compared mine side by side with a Trek-T and a YHM Phantom and didn't notice much difference. It has a slightly different ton/pitch but every suppressor is a little different. While the can is very short its width gives it a large internal volume. It handles and feels like a "Mini" suppressor but performs like a full sized suppressor. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:03:42 PM EDT
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after looking at all of them I got the trek-for the features its the best IMO. weight/sound/quality all what I wanted-price didn't matter Quote HistoryQuoted:
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honorable mention goes to the gemtech trek-T, weighing in at 10.7 ounces and 5.7" after looking at all of them I got the trek-for the features its the best IMO. weight/sound/quality all what I wanted-price didn't matter |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 3:55:10 PM EDT
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Do you think there is enough difference in weight and length between the Brevis and Trek to justify the price difference? I think the Trek-T is $700 and the Brevis is $1400 Would you pay $700 to have your firearm be 2" shorter and 3.8oz lighter? The weight and length is noticeably different compared to the Trek-T but my rifle only weighs 7 lbs with a loaded mag so a few extra oz at the end of a pencil barrel is noticeable. Doubt you would notice the difference on a 8-12 lb rifle with a heavy barrel. The trek-t is a great suppressor and is what I started with, you wouldn't be disappointed with it. I decided to upgrade when I replaced my SBR lower with a transferable M16 lower. I didnt care what the price, it was all part of building my dream gun and have the best accessories possible. Personally I would never spend that much on a plinking/fun gun. I use my Trek-T and Harvester 30 on my other rifles as price is more of a driving factor than weight and length. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 4:03:20 PM EDT
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I have a Griffin Spartan 3 on my 12" 5.56. Really decent can for the money. I believe it is around 6" and 12.5oz.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:54:29 PM EDT
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I think the Trek-T is $700 and the Brevis is $1400 Would you pay $700 to have your firearm be 2" shorter and 3.8oz lighter? The weight and length is noticeably different compared to the Trek-T but my rifle only weighs 7 lbs with a loaded mag so a few extra oz at the end of a pencil barrel is noticeable. Doubt you would notice the difference on a 8-12 lb rifle with a heavy barrel. The trek-t is a great suppressor and is what I started with, you wouldn't be disappointed with it. I decided to upgrade when I replaced my SBR lower with a transferable M16 lower. I didnt care what the price, it was all part of building my dream gun and have the best accessories possible. Personally I would never spend that much on a plinking/fun gun. I use my Trek-T and Harvester 30 on my other rifles as price is more of a driving factor than weight and length. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you think there is enough difference in weight and length between the Brevis and Trek to justify the price difference? I think the Trek-T is $700 and the Brevis is $1400 Would you pay $700 to have your firearm be 2" shorter and 3.8oz lighter? The weight and length is noticeably different compared to the Trek-T but my rifle only weighs 7 lbs with a loaded mag so a few extra oz at the end of a pencil barrel is noticeable. Doubt you would notice the difference on a 8-12 lb rifle with a heavy barrel. The trek-t is a great suppressor and is what I started with, you wouldn't be disappointed with it. I decided to upgrade when I replaced my SBR lower with a transferable M16 lower. I didnt care what the price, it was all part of building my dream gun and have the best accessories possible. Personally I would never spend that much on a plinking/fun gun. I use my Trek-T and Harvester 30 on my other rifles as price is more of a driving factor than weight and length. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 3:06:03 AM EDT
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I have a Griffin Spartan 3 on my 12" 5.56. Really decent can for the money. I believe it is around 6" and 12.5oz. I'm considering a Spartan 3 for my boy's AR, so I'm curious what you mean by "really decent can for the money". I spent double the money for an Omega that I only plan to use as a direct thread. Other than more modularity, what am I giving up compared to an Omega? Edit: I bought the Omega (and the Ti flat cap and DT adapter) for basically the same purpose as the OP. I wanted the shortest lightest silencer I could get, but I still I wanted future flexibility for the first can. I'd consider buying a 2nd Omega but my SOT a mile away has Spartan 3's in stock for $450, which is about as much as I want hanging off the end of a 9 yr olds AR.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 11:25:30 AM EDT
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Surefire Mini is pretty short QD can. The Saker K with a direct thread mount is close in length to the SF Mini and is rated down to 7" barrels. Both are a bit on the heavy side..but they are short.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:18:52 PM EDT
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have one in jail. how much do you take it off/clean? uh never I never clean rifle cans except 22lr http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/318730_Want-to-see-a-HALO-thats-been-on-a-10-M16-for-5-years-.html |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:25:31 PM EDT
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uh never I never clean rifle cans except 22lr http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/318730_Want-to-see-a-HALO-thats-been-on-a-10-M16-for-5-years-.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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have one in jail. how much do you take it off/clean? uh never I never clean rifle cans except 22lr http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/318730_Want-to-see-a-HALO-thats-been-on-a-10-M16-for-5-years-.html This. I haven't found a good way to clean my Surefire SOCOMs, and I don't stress about it at all. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:26:27 PM EDT
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I stumbled upon a new one (to me) today: Ballista Suppressor from Riverman Gunworks
Don't know anything more than what they show on their web site, but it looks interesting... sounds like they are using a design from a New Zealand manufacturer (Hardy Rifle Engineering). 5" beyond the barrel, 3" over the barrel, 13.6 oz, 29 db suppression, $1,095. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 12:39:03 PM EDT
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How about a Thunder Beast 6.5 Ultra 5? Only 5" and 7.6 ounces.
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Posted: 2/27/2017 10:06:39 PM EDT
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How about a Thunder Beast 6.5 Ultra 5? Only 5" and 7.6 ounces. A little surprised they only warranty .223 down to 11.5" barrels regardless of model. |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 5:42:29 PM EDT
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I'm considering a Spartan 3 for my boy's AR, so I'm curious what you mean by "really decent can for the money". I spent double the money for an Omega that I only plan to use as a direct thread. Other than more modularity, what am I giving up compared to an Omega? Edit: I bought the Omega (and the Ti flat cap and DT adapter) for basically the same purpose as the OP. I wanted the shortest lightest silencer I could get, but I still I wanted future flexibility for the first can. I'd consider buying a 2nd Omega but my SOT a mile away has Spartan 3's in stock for $450, which is about as much as I want hanging off the end of a 9 yr olds AR. I have both a Spartan 3 and an Omega. IMO the Spartan 3 is a hell of a can if you plan to dedicate it to one 5.56 rifle. It's not everything that the Omega is though because it gives you a ton more versatility since it is 30 cal and has all the mounting options. They both sound great and I am very happy with both. I have the Spartan 3 on a dedicated 12" 5.56 and it sounds awesome. I use the Omega on pretty much everything else including 5.56, 300 blackout, 308 and soon to be 6.5 Grendel. The Omega was the first can I ever bought and IMO it can't be beat for everything it does at it's size and weight. |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 7:40:27 PM EDT
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Surefire Micro for the win.
4 inch long. With a swallow distance of 1.5 inches for the muzzel device, it only adds 2.5 inches to the length of the gun. The Micro was part of their older line, and isn't currently made. I belive not many made it to the civilian market - most were made for LE use as a moderator for close encounters. I have one, and like it. It's super short, and takes the blast down, and a lot of the noise. Not down to .22 LR sound levels like a much bigger can - more like the difference between an unsupressed 10.5 inch bbl AR and a 16 inch one. |
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Posted: 3/6/2017 11:43:38 PM EDT
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I have both a Spartan 3 and an Omega. IMO the Spartan 3 is a hell of a can if you plan to dedicate it to one 5.56 rifle. It's not everything that the Omega is though because it gives you a ton more versatility since it is 30 cal and has all the mounting options. They both sound great and I am very happy with both. I have the Spartan 3 on a dedicated 12" 5.56 and it sounds awesome. I use the Omega on pretty much everything else including 5.56, 300 blackout, 308 and soon to be 6.5 Grendel. The Omega was the first can I ever bought and IMO it can't be beat for everything it does at it's size and weight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm considering a Spartan 3 for my boy's AR, so I'm curious what you mean by "really decent can for the money". I spent double the money for an Omega that I only plan to use as a direct thread. Other than more modularity, what am I giving up compared to an Omega? Edit: I bought the Omega (and the Ti flat cap and DT adapter) for basically the same purpose as the OP. I wanted the shortest lightest silencer I could get, but I still I wanted future flexibility for the first can. I'd consider buying a 2nd Omega but my SOT a mile away has Spartan 3's in stock for $450, which is about as much as I want hanging off the end of a 9 yr olds AR. I have both a Spartan 3 and an Omega. IMO the Spartan 3 is a hell of a can if you plan to dedicate it to one 5.56 rifle. It's not everything that the Omega is though because it gives you a ton more versatility since it is 30 cal and has all the mounting options. They both sound great and I am very happy with both. I have the Spartan 3 on a dedicated 12" 5.56 and it sounds awesome. I use the Omega on pretty much everything else including 5.56, 300 blackout, 308 and soon to be 6.5 Grendel. The Omega was the first can I ever bought and IMO it can't be beat for everything it does at it's size and weight. Thank you for that, that is the kind of first hand experience I've been wanting. I jumped on the $400 Hybrid deal, but if that falls apart I'll probably still grab a Spartan. Apologies for the hijack, OP. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:52:02 AM EDT
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Incredible, the SAS Eadrom was already mentioned twice in this thread and people just gloss right over it.
Truth is, it's the industry leader in this category, nothing else, yep nothing, can match it's combination of size, weight and sound reduction. And I havent even mentioned it makes less backpressure than anything else out there. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:16:51 AM EDT
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Incredible, the SAS Eadrom was already mentioned twice in this thread and people just gloss right over it. Truth is, it's the industry leader in this category, nothing else, yep nothing, can match it's combination of size, weight and sound reduction. And I havent even mentioned it makes less backpressure than anything else out there. I checked some of the online dealers and their website doesn't list dealers. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 1:03:55 PM EDT
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Mile High Shooting Accessories in Colorado likely still had a few of the older model (non MX).
Their price was incredibly low when I bought mine last year and it may have dropped even more. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 1:29:25 PM EDT
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How low is low? Their non-MX is $490 right now.
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Posted: 4/3/2017 2:58:05 PM EDT
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Wait for the MX.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 7:42:25 AM EDT
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What does the MX version provide over the non-MX?
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:34:41 AM EDT
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Incredible, the SAS Eadrom was already mentioned twice in this thread and people just gloss right over it. Truth is, it's the industry leader in this category, nothing else, yep nothing, can match it's combination of size, weight and sound reduction. And I havent even mentioned it makes less backpressure than anything else out there. Everything is a trade off between price, weight, length and suppression, but I don't think it's appropriate to call the Eadrom the "definitive market leader". |
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