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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:50:39 AM EDT
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how will CLEO be notified? will it be in any form that could be kept in a record? Yes CLEO will be notified but it won't be your local CLEO. It will be one person in each state that can accept the notification and it will be a hard copy. We don't plan on making it easy for them 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 1:32:37 PM EDT
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Yes CLEO will be notified but it won't be your local CLEO. It will be one person in each state that can accept the notification and it will be a hard copy. We don't plan on making it easy for them Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how will CLEO be notified? will it be in any form that could be kept in a record? Yes CLEO will be notified but it won't be your local CLEO. It will be one person in each state that can accept the notification and it will be a hard copy. We don't plan on making it easy for them 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:28:07 PM EDT
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how will CLEO be notified? will it be in any form that could be kept in a record? Yes CLEO will be notified but it won't be your local CLEO. It will be one person in each state that can accept the notification and it will be a hard copy. We don't plan on making it easy for them
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Posted: 6/21/2016 3:42:46 PM EDT
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Man that is sweet. Setting the kiosks up to do Form 1s for a $5-10 fee would be awesome. My understanding is the dealer pays $25 for SS to process a Form 4. I am not sure if this will work for Form 1, though. |
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Posted: 6/21/2016 8:05:57 PM EDT
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Yes CLEO will be notified but it won't be your local CLEO. It will be one person in each state that can accept the notification and it will be a hard copy. We don't plan on making it easy for them Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how will CLEO be notified? will it be in any form that could be kept in a record? Yes CLEO will be notified but it won't be your local CLEO. It will be one person in each state that can accept the notification and it will be a hard copy. We don't plan on making it easy for them Class act 
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Posted: 6/21/2016 10:20:12 PM EDT
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Glad I stumbled upon this thread this evening. Spent the day going to a few different local stores to find most of them out of stock on everything. I am planning on making my first silencer purchase and since I am going the individual route since it is so close to July 13th I figured spend the day seeing what was available locally. Pretty much nothing in a 30 cal can and very very little in 5.56.
I think I am going to just save my funds and make the purchase through Silencer Shop here in a few weeks. Two quick questions, is there an official list of where the kiosks will be located yet (I am in Cincinnati, OH and I hope there is one within 60 or so miles of me for ease of doing this the first time) and the 2nd question is does Silencer Shop hold the can until the Form 4 is approved or do they do the Form 3 and ship to your local FFL before your stamp is approved? Damn I am actually pretty stoked about something firearm related, been a little while.
I may need to sell off some more stuff around the house and just raise the funds to do a 2nd silencer right away also. |
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Posted: 6/21/2016 10:43:03 PM EDT
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Glad I stumbled upon this thread this evening. Spent the day going to a few different local stores to find most of them out of stock on everything. I am planning on making my first silencer purchase and since I am going the individual route since it is so close to July 13th I figured spend the day seeing what was available locally. Pretty much nothing in a 30 cal can and very very little in 5.56. I think I am going to just save my funds and make the purchase through Silencer Shop here in a few weeks. Two quick questions, is there an official list of where the kiosks will be located yet (I am in Cincinnati, OH and I hope there is one within 60 or so miles of me for ease of doing this the first time) and the 2nd question is does Silencer Shop hold the can until the Form 4 is approved or do they do the Form 3 and ship to your local FFL before your stamp is approved? Damn I am actually pretty stoked about something firearm related, been a little while.
I may need to sell off some more stuff around the house and just raise the funds to do a 2nd silencer right away also. SS ships the can to your local dealer when the form 3 is approved. The local dealer holds the can until the form 4 is approved. |
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Posted: 6/21/2016 10:46:04 PM EDT
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They'll ship it once the F3 is approved.
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Posted: 6/21/2016 11:08:06 PM EDT
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Thank you for the quick response guys.
I avoided this part of ARF for 6 years like the plague since I knew once I popped this cherry it was going to be game over on any sort of control with the purchasing of NFA items. Looks like I need to start the process on a couple SBRs also, might as well do everything during the same month. I will say I am highly jealous of some of the stamp collections you guys have going on. |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 10:19:42 AM EDT
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Thank you for the quick response guys. I avoided this part of ARF for 6 years like the plague since I knew once I popped this cherry it was going to be game over on any sort of control with the purchasing of NFA items. Looks like I need to start the process on a couple SBRs also, might as well do everything during the same month. I will say I am highly jealous of some of the stamp collections you guys have going on. Yea NFAIDS is really bad. 4 SBRs and 6 cans in the past couple months for me. Now I am thinking of doing a couple form 1 cans, SBS and 2 more SBRs......This needs to stop 
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Posted: 6/22/2016 2:37:31 PM EDT
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Any idea when the list will be available of the 300 stores getting the kiosks?
EDIT: Found out one of my local FFLs is going to be a Kiosk location. Talked with the owner for a while today who is a really nice guy (hard to come by these days with most store owners throughout Cincinnati) and he told me he is one of the biggest Powered by Silencer Shop dealers in the country. Sadly SS doesn't have the Griffin Optimus in stock so my first silencer will be coming in from another website since I am impatient and don't want to add another couple extra months to an already long wait time. 
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Posted: 6/22/2016 10:12:24 PM EDT
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My trust has trustees in several states. Is there a way to get them to add their info to the trust account so they all can be submitted or do all photos and prints need to be done at once at the same location?
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Posted: 6/23/2016 3:41:09 PM EDT
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My trust has trustees in several states. Is there a way to get them to add their info to the trust account so they all can be submitted or do all photos and prints need to be done at once at the same location? MAHA This is the whole point of the kiosk system. NO, they do not all have to be in the same location at the same time. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 3:54:04 PM EDT
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Now SS just needs to become a SilencerCo and Dead Air dealer again
Because this seems awesome, but those are the only 2 companies I'm interested in. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 4:10:06 PM EDT
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Now SS just needs to become a SilencerCo and Dead Air dealer again
Because this seems awesome, but those are the only 2 companies I'm interested in. Not going to happen unfortunately. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 4:23:10 PM EDT
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Now SS just needs to become a SilencerCo and Dead Air dealer again
Because this seems awesome, but those are the only 2 companies I'm interested in. Not going to happen unfortunately. Dang, looks like I won't get to enjoy their service. But I do applaud them for going above and beyond anyone else for their customers. SS is good folks. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 4:24:07 PM EDT
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Not going to happen unfortunately. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now SS just needs to become a SilencerCo and Dead Air dealer again
Because this seems awesome, but those are the only 2 companies I'm interested in. Not going to happen unfortunately. I could see DA at some point in the future. I'll preface that with I know absolutely nothing about the status of any sort of negotiations between the two at this time. However, there is a lot of mutual respect between folks at DA and SS. Everything I have heard is that the disagreement was a pricing one. If they ever work that out, I expect we will see DA back on board. SilencerCo on the other hand... |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 4:55:29 PM EDT
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I talked about it with Mike and Gary. You're right, lots of mutual respect on both ends. But business is business...
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I could see DA at some point in the future. I'll preface that with I know absolutely nothing about the status of any sort of negotiations between the two at this time. However, there is a lot of mutual respect between folks at DA and SS. Everything I have heard is that the disagreement was a pricing one. If they ever work that out, I expect we will see DA back on board. SilencerCo on the other hand... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now SS just needs to become a SilencerCo and Dead Air dealer again
Because this seems awesome, but those are the only 2 companies I'm interested in. Not going to happen unfortunately. I could see DA at some point in the future. I'll preface that with I know absolutely nothing about the status of any sort of negotiations between the two at this time. However, there is a lot of mutual respect between folks at DA and SS. Everything I have heard is that the disagreement was a pricing one. If they ever work that out, I expect we will see DA back on board. SilencerCo on the other hand... |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 1:34:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Not going to happen unfortunately.
Nothing is precluding either party from changing their minds. I may be an eternal optimist, but I think it's more likely to happen than not. Only time will tell. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 2:15:56 PM EDT
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Nothing is precluding either party from changing their minds. I may be an eternal optimist, but I think it's more likely to happen than not. Only time will tell. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing is precluding either party from changing their minds. I may be an eternal optimist, but I think it's more likely to happen than not. Only time will tell. Except ego and money |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 2:32:03 PM EDT
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Nothing is precluding either party from changing their minds. I may be an eternal optimist, but I think it's more likely to happen than not. Only time will tell. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing is precluding either party from changing their minds. I may be an eternal optimist, but I think it's more likely to happen than not. Only time will tell. Agreed. But having talked to both sides, it doesn't look good in the short term. (Disclaimer: I'm not in the industry) |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:53:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:30:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryFor those whom still have money for suppressors on July 14th. Im tapped and set for a while |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:17:39 AM EDT
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Agreed. Theyd better have rock bottom prices or some kind of whisper-quiet tech that I just cant pass up...
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Posted: 6/30/2016 8:55:53 AM EDT
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For those whom still have money for suppressors on July 14th. Im tapped and set for a while Quote HistoryQuoted:
For those whom still have money for suppressors on July 14th. Im tapped and set for a while I'll have to mail 2-3 stamps after the deadline. Interested in beta testing these 
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Posted: 7/10/2016 10:05:50 PM EDT
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Has SS released the locations for the kiosk's yet? I'm curious if there is going to be one near me.
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Posted: 7/10/2016 10:11:42 PM EDT
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Email just went out today saying to keep checking the powered by list on their site over the next few weeks.
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Posted: 7/10/2016 10:34:43 PM EDT
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Great, thanks!
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:39:33 AM EDT
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We will have a list of the FFL's as they come online. Stay tuned.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 11:02:46 AM EDT
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We will have a list of the FFL's as they come online. Stay tuned. I excite. Thank you. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 11:52:47 AM EDT
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Our kiosk arrived Friday.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 1:41:21 PM EDT
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We will have a list of the FFL's as they come online. Stay tuned.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 2:15:05 PM EDT
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I've got the list of cities up. As Silencer Shop has mentioned, the individual dealers will be listed as they get the kiosks, so please don't hound them about it quite yet. That info is coming.
http://modernrifleman.net/2016/07/11/silencer-shop-announces-kiosk-cities-dealers-to-come/ |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 5:23:21 PM EDT
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I've got the list of cities up. As Silencer Shop has mentioned, the individual dealers will be listed as they get the kiosks, so please don't hound them about it quite yet. That info is coming. http://modernrifleman.net/2016/07/11/silencer-shop-announces-kiosk-cities-dealers-to-come/ Thanks for the list, looks like my home town is getting one. Not having to take a 45 minute each-way trip with the MRS will make me much more likely to buy from SS in coming months. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 5:35:39 PM EDT
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I'm interested in utilizing for F1s
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Posted: 7/11/2016 5:37:52 PM EDT
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There are sure allot of Texas locations on that list.
Paging DogtownTom, is the Plano location you? |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 6:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are sure allot of Texas locations on that list. Paging DogtownTom, is the Plano location you? |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 6:38:27 PM EDT
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Hey, Culpeper, VA is getting one!
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Posted: 7/11/2016 6:46:09 PM EDT
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I've got the list of cities up. As Silencer Shop has mentioned, the individual dealers will be listed as they get the kiosks, so please don't hound them about it quite yet. That info is coming. http://modernrifleman.net/2016/07/11/silencer-shop-announces-kiosk-cities-dealers-to-come/ Awesome! According to this not only is my hometown dealer getting one the town up the street is getting one as well! |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 6:46:58 PM EDT
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No city close to me...even though we have a SS dealer...
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Posted: 7/11/2016 7:09:41 PM EDT
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No city close to me...even though we have a SS dealer... Call them bitches up |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 7:48:52 PM EDT
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I'm interested in utilizing for F1s This |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like they may be still doing a brisk online business but from my experience the local SS store is a ghost-town now. It used to always be filled with people checking out different models and buying silencers. Now when I go in I am the only one in the place. Seems like Capitol Armory has basically consumed all of their local business. The folks running the store don't seem to be as knowledgeable as they used to be either. The last item I transferred through them they screwed up the F4 paperwork so I had to go back the next day and get new F4 printouts and then when I picked it up they insisted on running a NICS check for an NFA individual transfer until I gave them my CHL to bypass it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Man, silencer shop is already a big dealer. Looks like after the implementation of 41F they will become a juggernaut. They've come a long way since they first opened their doors... I was wondering if they were going to go the way of major malfunctions Sounds like they may be still doing a brisk online business but from my experience the local SS store is a ghost-town now. It used to always be filled with people checking out different models and buying silencers. Now when I go in I am the only one in the place. Seems like Capitol Armory has basically consumed all of their local business. The folks running the store don't seem to be as knowledgeable as they used to be either. The last item I transferred through them they screwed up the F4 paperwork so I had to go back the next day and get new F4 printouts and then when I picked it up they insisted on running a NICS check for an NFA individual transfer until I gave them my CHL to bypass it. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:29:56 PM EDT
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There are sure allot of Texas locations on that list. Paging DogtownTom, is the Plano location you? Yes, but I'm sure there will be others getting a kiosk as well. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:39:30 PM EDT
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This is great now, but will be UUUUUUGEE when the phase II opens it up to any NFA purchase from the affiliated dealers.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 11:45:59 PM EDT
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My local dealer is getting one - Hooray!
 But if what CA posted about the ATF being backlogged with 200K forms, it could be a LONG time before we see any kiosk purchases.  |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 11:57:07 PM EDT
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Yes, but I'm sure there will be others getting a kiosk as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are sure allot of Texas locations on that list. Paging DogtownTom, is the Plano location you? Yes, but I'm sure there will be others getting a kiosk as well. Yep. I believe Plano has 2 dealers that will be getting kiosks. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 12:10:55 AM EDT
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I guess I don't get the whole Kiosk program... according to the ATF anyone with the proper equipment (Fingerprint cards and Ink pad) can collect prints.
why doesn't silencer shop just send a some ink pads to every dealer? (FBI print cards are FREE)... just saved them millions
"Fingerprints may be taken by anyone who is properly equipped to take them (see instructions on ATF Form 1, Form 4, Form 5, and Form 5320.23). Therefore, applicants may utilize the service of any business or government agency that is properly equipped to take fingerprints. Depending on where the fingerprints are taken, the service may require an appointment, and appointment availability may be limited. Some businesses provide evening and weekend appointments and a number of private companies provide mobile fingerprinting services at a location chosen by the customer to be fingerprinted. Additionally, some mobile fingerprinting services offer special pricing to groups of individuals who need to be fingerprinted." |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 12:22:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I don't get the whole Kiosk program... according to the ATF anyone with the proper equipment (Fingerprint cards and Ink pad) can collect prints. why doesn't silencer shop just send a some ink pads to every dealer? (FBI print cards are FREE)... just saved them millions Because it's about the long game. You get your prints (and I think photo) taken once at the kiosk. Now Silencer Shop has them on file. The next time you want a silencer from Silencer Shop, you point - click - and buy and Silencer Shop already has everything on file. No more having to go get another set of prints taken. The whole Powered By process keeps on rolling and 41F's inconvenience becomes less so. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 12:25:27 AM EDT
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I guess I don't get the whole Kiosk program... according to the ATF anyone with the proper equipment (Fingerprint cards and Ink pad) can collect prints. why doesn't silencer shop just send a some ink pads to every dealer? (FBI print cards are FREE)... just saved them millions
"Fingerprints may be taken by anyone who is properly equipped to take them (see instructions on ATF Form 1, Form 4, Form 5, and Form 5320.23). Therefore, applicants may utilize the service of any business or government agency that is properly equipped to take fingerprints. Depending on where the fingerprints are taken, the service may require an appointment, and appointment availability may be limited. Some businesses provide evening and weekend appointments and a number of private companies provide mobile fingerprinting services at a location chosen by the customer to be fingerprinted. Additionally, some mobile fingerprinting services offer special pricing to groups of individuals who need to be fingerprinted." The main advantages are: 1. They're electronic so less mess, more reliable prints, and less training required for dealers 2. Since they are electronic, they get uploaded to Silencer Shop's database automatically and are saved for future purchases. You don't need to do them again. There may be cheaper ways, but this keeps it easy for both dealer and buyer. That's Silencer Shop's goal here. |
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