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Posted: 7/22/2016 12:10:08 PM EDT
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So, if my dealer is a SSD, but doesnt have a kiosk, I could mail SilencerShop a 2x2 photo, and 1 set of my finger prints (to go along with my trust that they already have) and SS will put me in their system? Then, when I want to use my dealer for SSD purchase, it works just like the old system?
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Posted: 7/22/2016 12:26:48 PM EDT
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Correct, you could also go to a kiosk location but still pick up at the other location. Also you can register in the kiosk at anytime, you don't have to have an active order.
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Posted: 7/22/2016 12:48:02 PM EDT
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Also you can register in the kiosk at anytime, you don't have to have an active order. I was unclear on this, good info |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:17:15 PM EDT
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And you could also use the yet-to-be-released app to handle the photo instead of mailing them one.
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your fingerprints don't change so they don't have to be updated. The photo has to be updated each year. In-defiantly Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At what interval are customers going to have to be reprinted? The FBI will not accept the same set of prints forever? Your fingerprints don't change so they don't have to be updated. The photo has to be updated each year. Quoted: On that note- how long will customer data be retained, after a period of no purchases/transfers? In-defiantly |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:45:53 PM EDT
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You think the FBI will accept 2-3 year old prints? I don't. However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:46:53 PM EDT
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You think the FBI will accept 2-3 year old prints? I don't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At what interval are customers going to have to be reprinted? The FBI will not accept the same set of prints forever? Your fingerprints don't change so they don't have to be updated. The photo has to be updated each year. Quoted:
On that note- how long will customer data be retained, after a period of no purchases/transfers? In-defiantly How will the FBI know how old the prints are? I'm a teacher and was fingerprinted in 2004. My school district has run a check on me every year with the same set of prints. Same with my Texas License to Carry permit. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How will the FBI know how old the prints are? I'm a teacher and was fingerprinted in 2004. My school district has run a check on me every year with the same set of prints. Same with my Texas License to Carry permit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: At what interval are customers going to have to be reprinted? The FBI will not accept the same set of prints forever? Your fingerprints don't change so they don't have to be updated. The photo has to be updated each year. Quoted: On that note- how long will customer data be retained, after a period of no purchases/transfers? In-defiantly How will the FBI know how old the prints are? I'm a teacher and was fingerprinted in 2004. My school district has run a check on me every year with the same set of prints. Same with my Texas License to Carry permit. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:43:44 PM EDT
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However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You think the FBI will accept 2-3 year old prints? I don't. However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. Correct. Although, I've heard reports of older ones being kicked back. However, in this case, is SS not going to simply print off new ones each time, and sign & date them? They won't appear to be old prints. Same could be said for the photo, but the forms do specifically say within the last year, so it's the honor system. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:44:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You think the FBI will accept 2-3 year old prints? I don't. However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:44:50 PM EDT
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Every time when they print out the digitized prints, the person signing the card is certifying the date printed. Date printed = the day they print out the prints. Works for me. 
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:46:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Date printed = the day they print out the prints. Works for me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every time when they print out the digitized prints, the person signing the card is certifying the date printed. Date printed = the day they print out the prints. Works for me.  |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:47:02 PM EDT
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Date printed = the day they print out the prints. Works for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Every time when they print out the digitized prints, the person signing the card is certifying the date printed. Date printed = the day they print out the prints. Works for me. Lol, I would interpret the same way. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:52:09 PM EDT
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However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You think the FBI will accept 2-3 year old prints? I don't. However, there is nothing in the law regarding age of prints. Bingo! Plus we checked with the FBI/ATF. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 7:08:46 PM EDT
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The kiosk sounds great and I understand the business sense of moving to the distributorship model, but it would go a lonnnnng way with us local folks if y'all would do something nice for those of us who are close enough to stop by the storefront. Even a token gesture would be great.
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Posted: 7/22/2016 8:30:11 PM EDT
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The kiosk sounds great and I understand the business sense of moving to the distributorship model, but it would go a lonnnnng way with us local folks if y'all would do something nice for those of us who are close enough to stop by the storefront. Even a token gesture would be great. Are five kiosks within 17 miles of the Silencer Shop store not enough? 
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Posted: 7/22/2016 9:55:00 PM EDT
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The kiosk sounds great and I understand the business sense of moving to the distributorship model, but it would go a lonnnnng way with us local folks if y'all would do something nice for those of us who are close enough to stop by the storefront. Even a token gesture would be great. They're a distributor now, so is it really considered a storefront at this point? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:17:19 AM EDT
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The kiosk sounds great and I understand the business sense of moving to the distributorship model, but it would go a lonnnnng way with us local folks if y'all would do something nice for those of us who are close enough to stop by the storefront. Even a token gesture would be great. Do something nice for those close enough to stop by the storefront 
We will have a kiosk here of course. You can purchase, view the silencers and pick up accessories at the store front. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:07:17 PM EDT
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Are five kiosks within 17 miles of the Silencer Shop store not enough? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The kiosk sounds great and I understand the business sense of moving to the distributorship model, but it would go a lonnnnng way with us local folks if y'all would do something nice for those of us who are close enough to stop by the storefront. Even a token gesture would be great. Are five kiosks within 17 miles of the Silencer Shop store not enough? Apparently not. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:44:13 PM EDT
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Do something nice for those close enough to stop by the storefront
We will have a kiosk here of course. You can purchase, view the silencers and pick up accessories at the store front. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The kiosk sounds great and I understand the business sense of moving to the distributorship model, but it would go a lonnnnng way with us local folks if y'all would do something nice for those of us who are close enough to stop by the storefront. Even a token gesture would be great. Do something nice for those close enough to stop by the storefront
We will have a kiosk here of course. You can purchase, view the silencers and pick up accessories at the store front. Why not just corner the market and open up Silencer Shops all throughout the US? Cincinnati, OH can be your next location.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 2:52:21 PM EDT
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What's the word on the photo app release date?
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:00:29 PM EDT
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I'm being told by the end of the week.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:14:23 PM EDT
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I'm being told by the end of the week. Maybe I'll go get a haircut 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:44:06 PM EDT
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I noticed several shops now have a fingerprint image "coming soon" so I assuming that's a good indicator who the Kiosk locations are going to be.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:12:36 PM EDT
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I'm being told by the end of the week. I hope so
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:59:36 PM EDT
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Yep you got it. The icon turns on when they are close to being up and running.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 9:52:50 PM EDT
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I'm being told by the end of the week. It's the end of the week
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Posted: 8/3/2016 8:01:30 PM EDT
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Saw my first Kiosk yesterday. It wasn't up and running, but it's definitely not vapor ware either.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 8:19:40 PM EDT
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I just hope they have everything up and running by the time my form 4 is due to be made up.... kiosk dont really matter sent a print card in to be scanned. Photo app mainly.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 8:28:08 PM EDT
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I just hope they have everything up and running by the time my form 4 is due to be made up.... kiosk dont really matter sent a print card in to be scanned. Photo app mainly. There are multiple free passport photo apps that you could use instead. You can also mail them a photo. Just saying their app not working shouldn't cause any delay. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 10:47:25 PM EDT
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There are multiple free passport photo apps that you could use instead. You can also mail them a photo. Just saying their app not working shouldn't cause any delay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just hope they have everything up and running by the time my form 4 is due to be made up.... kiosk dont really matter sent a print card in to be scanned. Photo app mainly. There are multiple free passport photo apps that you could use instead. You can also mail them a photo. Just saying their app not working shouldn't cause any delay. True. I got a few weeks before they hound me for that stuff anyways, I'm on week 2 of my form 3 now. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 10:52:30 PM EDT
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How do we know which specific gun shops/dealers received a kiosk?
I see there is one in my area, but I have no clue which store has it... |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 10:53:59 PM EDT
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Saw the kiosk yesterday at the LGS just waiting on the Geek Squad.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 11:00:38 PM EDT
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How do we know which specific gun shops/dealers received a kiosk? I see there is one in my area, but I have no clue which store has it... Go here:http://www.silencershop.com/dealer/locator/search/ then type in your zip code. Powered By dealers with a kiosk will have a blue thumbprint with "soon" next to their listing. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 10:06:21 AM EDT
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Wow,
we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 10:34:22 AM EDT
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Wow, we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. List of cities There are 18 in FL. Which I believe is only second to TX. According to the last report from ATF Florida was #3 in silencer ownership behind GA. GA is only getting 9. Same as OH, which is #4 or #5. I would say that Florida is one of the best taken care of states with the limited resources available. Some states are only getting 1 or 2. They only had 300 kiosks to cover 43 states. I would say a 30-45 minute drive for a one time service visit is more than reasonable. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 10:36:23 AM EDT
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Wow, we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. You think thats bad WV has 2 for the whole state, 59mi to the closest, and that guy i dont really care for. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 11:08:03 AM EDT
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You think thats bad WV has 2 for the whole state, 59mi to the closest, and that guy i dont really care for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. You think thats bad WV has 2 for the whole state, 59mi to the closest, and that guy i dont really care for. Time to petition your local dealer Or just go there and get prints and photos and then use your local dealer |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 11:43:35 AM EDT
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Time to petition your local dealer Or just go there and get prints and photos and then use your local dealer Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. You think thats bad WV has 2 for the whole state, 59mi to the closest, and that guy i dont really care for. Time to petition your local dealer Or just go there and get prints and photos and then use your local dealer Or get prints an photos and send them to us to store. Essentially the same thing as the kiosk. Do it once and you don't have to do it again. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 1:48:07 PM EDT
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Or get prints an photos and send them to us to store. Essentially the same thing as the kiosk. Do it once and you don't have to do it again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. You think thats bad WV has 2 for the whole state, 59mi to the closest, and that guy i dont really care for. Time to petition your local dealer Or just go there and get prints and photos and then use your local dealer Or get prints an photos and send them to us to store. Essentially the same thing as the kiosk. Do it once and you don't have to do it again. Nice!! |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:42:37 PM EDT
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Or get prints an photos and send them to us to store. Essentially the same thing as the kiosk. Do it once and you don't have to do it again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, we need more kiosks in my area. Closest one is over 30 miles away from me. You think thats bad WV has 2 for the whole state, 59mi to the closest, and that guy i dont really care for. Time to petition your local dealer Or just go there and get prints and photos and then use your local dealer Or get prints an photos and send them to us to store. Essentially the same thing as the kiosk. Do it once and you don't have to do it again. So correct me if I am wrong. If I wanted to do it the paper method. (I have a trust.) I could have SS send me the new paper work with attached pre filled out finger print cards. Then I the buyer could take the finger print card to my local Sheriffs office and have them preform the finger print card and sign off on it? Then mail it back to SS with the completed new form and finger print card. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 2:39:17 PM EDT
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So correct me if I am wrong. If I wanted to do it the paper method. (I have a trust.) I could have SS send me the new paper work with attached pre filled out finger print cards. Then I the buyer could take the finger print card to my local Sheriffs office and have them preform the finger print card and sign off on it? Then mail it back to SS with the completed new form and finger print card. I'd say the better process is for you simply to go get fingerprinted and then send the cards to SS. You don't need SS to send you any paperwork ahead of time. ATF will send you blank FD-258LE cards at no charge if you need them. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 3:03:15 PM EDT
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So are dealers dragging their feet?
Springs Armory estimated another month before things are up and running? Are any kiosks functional at this point? |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 4:26:57 PM EDT
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So are dealers dragging their feet? Springs Armory estimated another month before things are up and running? Are any kiosks functional at this point? That's better than my local dealer, yesterday they told me it would be about 10 months before theirs was up and running. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 4:40:19 PM EDT
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That's better than my local dealer, yesterday they told me it would be about 10 months before theirs was up and running. Is it due to a SilencerShop issue? Or your dealer is having an issue? |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 4:56:18 PM EDT
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Is it due to a SilencerShop issue? Or your dealer is having an issue? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's better than my local dealer, yesterday they told me it would be about 10 months before theirs was up and running. Is it due to a SilencerShop issue? Or your dealer is having an issue? Not sure, they are a newer powered by dealer, but on SS website is says soon next to their name. Luckily there are 2 other dealers getting kiosks that are about a 45 minute drive from me. Hopefully one of them gets it a lot sooner. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 5:04:29 PM EDT
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I guess a better way to get at what I was wanting to know would be: Does your dealer have a kiosk in their store now, and it is not working? Or will they GET a kiosk, in about 10 months?
I know SS has said they plan to have more made and installed across the country, so I didnt know if the first wave of kiosks were having issues being setup or not. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 5:48:38 PM EDT
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I guess a better way to get at what I was wanting to know would be: Does your dealer have a kiosk in their store now, and it is not working? Or will they GET a kiosk, in about 10 months? I know SS has said they plan to have more made and installed across the country, so I didnt know if the first wave of kiosks were having issues being setup or not. Oh, I'm not sure if they had one in store or not. I doubt they did since they are new powered by dealer. Once they told me 10 months I knew I would be using a kiosk at a different dealer and didn't ask any more questions. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 8:36:16 PM EDT
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The dealer I visited today had a kiosk set up but no screen, etc.
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Posted: 8/18/2016 9:58:53 PM EDT
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I was at Capitol Armory few weeks ago, tried out their finger print scanner to have them on file. It is time consuming trying to get an acceptable print on those things.
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