ETA:  SiCo is making it right and I couldn't be happier with their amazing customer service.

For the second time, my Saker 762 has locked onto a Trifecta brake.  I am all done with this nonsense.  SiCo was awesome with my first issue with this and sent me a new MAAD mount and Trifecta brake.  That lock happened with less than 500 rounds fired on my Noveske Recce.  This time it happened after 120 rounds on the same rifle.  I was much more careful this time to make sure the brake was clean and lightly lubed and the damn thing still got stuck.  It ruined (not really, but I was disappointed) a large group shoot I organized, in that I had planned on demoing the Saker on 4 rifles for guys that came from 10 different states to shoot this event.  Many of them wanted to do some side by side comparisons with other cans on other rifles and needless to say, that didn't happen.  I'm not real concerned about that, but it did suck to only be able to shoot one of my rifles suppressed for that event.

I've emailed SiCo again and expressed my frustration and desire for some help.  My hope is to simply wash my hands of the Trifecta crap once and for all and switch to ASR on everything.  In hindsight, I wish I done more homework when I ordered my Saker 762.  I ordered it right at the time that the Omega was introduced and had the opportunity to change my order but didn't.  I should've relied on SiCo's excellent reputation and changed the order and none of this would likely have happened.  Oh well.  I just hope that I can put this all behind me and enjoy my only suppressor for years to come.  The Saker 762's performance has been stellar for me, from noise levels to absolute POI repeatability.  The Trifecta mounting system has been nothing but a thorn in my side.

Well at least the can won't come loose

My saker only got "stuck" once and it was partially my fault because I let it cool down before trying to remove it. Sometimes it takes a lot of force to break it loose .... Enough that I have to grip it with two hands and have someone hold the rifle

Man, that sucks!  I must have ordered mine about the same time as I was about two weeks in on my form 3 when the Omega hit the shelves.  I ordered an Omega as well and Torrey at Capitol was nice enough to swap mounts for me on my Saker to the ASR so they would match.  As time goes on boy am I glad I did that!

Your experience mirrors my own. I spoke to SiCo Customer Service and they're gonna swap my Trifecta to the ASR stuff.

i guess ive "lucked out" cause i havent had any issues with mine. Took them off when they were hot and cold, breaks dry and wet.  couple 100 rounds through each before swapping.

I'm very hopeful this is their solution for me too.  The only part that sucks is one of my 1/2x28 brakes is pinned and welded, which cost me $50.  My guy charges $60 to remove it and redo another one.  I guess if it only costs me that to finally be trouble-free, so be it.

Did you eventually get it off or are you sending it back with the muzzle brake still inside it?  Also, you said you made sure to lube the muzzle brake but do you oil/lube the inside of the trifecta mount? I found that putting CLP inside the mount where the locking petals are helps to keep them from getting seized up. I use Aeroshell 33MS on the muzzle devices and it seems to work well.

I have an Omega in jail so I'll be in the ASR camp as well. There have been some reports of the Omega mount getting stuck when moving between different hosts (hot can, cold gun).

Use LOK-Cease.

My ASR'd Specwar has come loose a couple times, and I watched one go sailing downrange and hit the 25 yard line berm a few months ago.

So..... they seem to have their own problems.

My Saker got stuck once. I needed a few good taps with a rubber mallet and off she came. I blame myself to ratcheting it on way too tight.

This.
And oil the tabs.

Smacking my Saker762 on the truck bed works everytime. This past weekend I put over 500rounds down the pipe and always loosened it before it cooled and added a little bit of anti seize before shooting helpped too. Make sure you applybit to the taper mount and not the locking rings.

I stopped attaching it so tightly to brake and haven't had an issues since.

Well, SiCo has once again confirmed that choosing them for my first and likely only suppressor was the right decision.  What an awesome company!

Good to hear. A couple things that may be helpful.



To avoid all that get yourself some LOK-Cease. I have yet to have a stuck can since using it.

Where can you buy Lok Cease from?

Did they end up offering to swap it out for an ASR?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/460290_Lock_Cease_20_20___Logix_Thread_Smart_Mcmaster_carr_part_nu

This is the first time I've heard of the ASR coming loose. It threads on than uses a locking ring to lock it in place, how did this happen to you?

I have none yet but I firmly believe I will be a SiCo customer based on reviews here.

I had the exact same issue. I was while it was still I'm jail and I was on a conjugal.  Anyways, I shot it and waned it up and it came right off.

I've had the same problems with mine. In fact the MAAD mount broke my first outing and they replaced it. I'd say 70% of my range trips I have issues with it, even if I try to remove it when hot. I clean the threads inside with q-tips, keep it lubed, lube the muzzle devices, same crap so often.

If I didn't have so many muzzle devices to worry about I'd probably change it too. I love my Specwar K and Spectre II, but the Saker has really been a pain in the ass in comparison to the other cans.

What lube are you using on the mount?

 

I guess I've been lucky, I've got 2-3k rounds through mine on two rifles and haven't had any issues getting it off like you guess are saying. I put frog lune on my mount every now and then and it comes off like butter.

I'll out out a light coat of oil on the brake b4 I shoot it and i oil the "teeth" part b4 I shoot for the day

I've tried a bunch of stuff from gun lubes to different types of greases and anti seize.

I've not had any luck getting it off while hot, but every time I let it cool a bit it comes off perfectly fine.

It's always been the case- when the brakes were brand new, and now after being used consecutively without cleaning or lubing them or the maad mount.

SiCo was the best long term decision I've ever made. So I made it again, and in jail she waits. Just hopefully not for more than 6 mo :) Worth it however long.

I have had my 762 Specwar lock up twice on my trifecta brake. It is a bitch to get off. Both times the brake was clean, threads lubed and only a few rounds through the can.

The SpecWar doesn't use a trifecta mount. It uses the ASR. Completely different locking mechanisms.

I have had my SW lock up though. Look just in front of the threads - at the taper. As the mount heats up, it expands and the taper is what makes them get "stuck". Put some high temp grease on the taper and never move a hot suppressor to a cold mount.

ASR



Trifecta

Well I would give LOK-Cease a try. I have not had a stuck suppressor since I started using it. That is with both a Saker 5.56 and 7.62.

 

 
So what was their resolution?

They offered to swap out my MAAD mount from Trifecta to ASR.  They also offered to send me 4 ASR brakes to replace my Trifecta brakes.

You can't ask for better service than that.  In my opinion, SiCo is most concerned with the user's experience first, small loss of revenue last.  My future suppressor purchases will absolutely be SiCo.....they've earned my loyal business.

Wow - I wasn't surprised by the MAAD mount swap, but I'm impressed they offered to swap all your muzzle devices too.  Go Silencerco!

-bob

I was surprised too.  It definitely helps soften the blow of a failed mounting system and the cost associated with all of the brakes I purchased.  The only cost to me will be having my 'smith remove and re-pin one of them on my 14.5", and that's an easy pill to swallow with customer service like I've received.  I'm a SiCo fan for life at this point.

At what point did those of you with problems start having them?

I picked up my Saker 7.62 a couple weeks ago. I've only taken it on a couple of range trips and probably only shot about 200-300 rounds of 300 blackout (supers and subs)  through it.
Before my first shots, I put a light layer of Lok-Cease on the flash hider. Then I mounted and unmounted the can a couple times to work it in. I waited a couple minutes after shooting and removed the can while it was still warm.  

I didn't apply anymore prior to my next range trip and it went on and came off as it should.  

I've had my saker lock up twice, both times were on a 10.5 AR, after shooting it and letting it cool on the gun. Other than that there haven't been any issues. My range buddy has his specwar 7.62 get stuck almost every trip, on both a 10.5 SBR and a savage hog hunter 7.62, both with a muzzle brake. We always have to hit his several times with a piece of wood.

I just installed my first trifecta FH on an AR10, so here's to hoping.

My 556 got stuck once on my 10.5". I just left it till the next range trip. A few round thru it and it came right off. I picked up some of the Logix Thread smart to try out since it was recommended. Other than the one time I have had no probs with my trifecta mounts on my two AR's. I have a 762 in jail now.