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Link Posted: 2/26/2017 5:48:50 PM EDT
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dupe
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god that is so awesome
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ditto
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I have more money invested in MP5 mags than some of these guys have in their MP5SDs
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I own exactly one magazine.
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 6:55:46 PM EDT
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Awesome! That was just like my wedding night. Lots of money, a years worth of waiting, lots of hoopla and over in 5 seconds. 
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 6:59:35 PM EDT
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That is gold!
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 7:06:36 PM EDT
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I built this because at the time it was more cost effective than building an MP5SD... with magazines and such, $2200 dollars later (not counting the suppressor) I still want an MP5SD....

still cool though and very quiet... will remove if ya'll want as it isn't exactly HK... but I feel like its the younger cousin of the MP5SD...

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and an MP5 just so there is some HK in the post

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Link Posted: 2/26/2017 7:07:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/26/2017 7:22:48 PM EDT
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Lulz
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 7:27:39 PM EDT
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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?





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You spelled "Hillary-supporting step-brother" wrong
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 9:10:36 PM EDT
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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_142256_zpsawkdaapl.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_171546_zps3wkomgl8.jpg

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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_142256_zpsawkdaapl.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_171546_zps3wkomgl8.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_145337_zpsuijuq2zt.jpg

That's about the same as mine looked after 300 rounds. Still waiting on my spanner to arrive to open up the can.

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Shoot 124 or 147 through it and get back to us about sound. Not really
apples-to-apples comparing your muzzle-can with subs, to an SD with
115s.

Yeah I'll try it with other ammo for sure. I know it was designed for NATO spec 124 grain so I'll get some of that and I already have a ton of 147 grain so I'll try that, too. I want to get this mag problem sorted out first. I did notice that when it malfunctioned it was a lot louder, I guess due to the bolt not closing. That makes sound comparisons annoying when you never know when the gun will stop working.
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 9:39:54 PM EDT
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So...has anyone taken apart a TPM silencer now that the take-down holes are in the rear cap instead of the front cap? Either they use threadlocker, or I need to wrench this thing off using ALL the force I'm able to apply to it. I'm assuming I need to rotate the cap counter-clockwise?

ETA: So I put the spanner wrench against the floor and put my knee down on the wrench to keep it in place, then used both hands on the silencer and was *just* able to get it to unscrew. I'm going to put white lithium grease on the threads and maybe not tighten it down onto the gun quite so much.
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 10:48:53 PM EDT
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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_142256_zpsawkdaapl.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_171546_zps3wkomgl8.jpg

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How long have I been in this thread telling you not to worry about how dirty it would be and how over exaggerated it is...
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 10:51:35 PM EDT
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Ken told me that they do not use any thread locker but some people do to keep it from unscrewing while shooting. He said to use anti-seize on the muzzle barrel threads and to wipe some around the muzzle, too, but I don't think he mentioned anything about using any on the base cap threads, but I use it on a lot of my other take-apart cans so it shouldn't hurt anything. It's always a balancing act keeping it tight enough so it won't come apart while shooting or when you unscrew the body to remove the can, but not too tight that you can't get it apart for cleaning
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 10:57:09 PM EDT
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How long have I been in this thread telling you not to worry about how dirty it would be and how over exaggerated it is...
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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_142256_zpsawkdaapl.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_171546_zps3wkomgl8.jpg

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How long have I been in this thread telling you not to worry about how dirty it would be and how over exaggerated it is...


Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now how do I get the baffles out? Expansion chamber slid right out. Baffles seem stuck pretty good. Is there a good way to push or pull the "barrel nut" (seen here) out? I gave it a tug with the spanner wrench since that was long enough, and it didn't move. Pretty sure the wrench is steel and the barrel nut is aluminum, so I don't want to screw it up.

TPM SD MP5SD suppressor breakdown
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 11:02:57 PM EDT
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now how do I get the baffles out? Expansion chamber slid right out. Baffles seem stuck pretty good. Is there a good way to push or pull the "barrel nut" (seen here) out? I gave it a tug with the spanner wrench since that was long enough, and it didn't move. Pretty sure the wrench is steel and the barrel nut is aluminum, so I don't want to screw it up.

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Can you get the front endcap off and use a pusher of some kind (smaller diameter PVC pipe) to get the stack and barrel nut out?
Link Posted: 2/26/2017 11:15:49 PM EDT
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Can you get the front endcap off and use a pusher of some kind (smaller diameter PVC pipe) to get the stack and barrel nut out?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now how do I get the baffles out? Expansion chamber slid right out. Baffles seem stuck pretty good. Is there a good way to push or pull the "barrel nut" (seen here) out? I gave it a tug with the spanner wrench since that was long enough, and it didn't move. Pretty sure the wrench is steel and the barrel nut is aluminum, so I don't want to screw it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYQ4z1GCfU

Can you get the front endcap off and use a pusher of some kind (smaller diameter PVC pipe) to get the stack and barrel nut out?


The front endcap won't budge. Even with gloves. I think I'm going to have to pour a little Kroil into the silencer and let it do its thing. That barrel nut is completely carbon welded in place.
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 10:32:31 AM EDT
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Might have to use a heat gun to try and get it to loosen up. If you torque it down on the barrel, then shoot it, and tighten it more, when it cools everything will be tight as hell!
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 10:36:23 AM EDT
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The new end caps were turned taking the anodizing thickness into consideration so hopefully they won't be as hard to get off after they have been shot and carbonized!
Link Posted: 3/11/2017 11:16:19 PM EDT
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put 500 rounds through the mp5k suppressed today. Had 1 malfunction. Halfway through... cleared it and kept rolling. I love this gun. So much fun!
Link Posted: 3/18/2017 6:27:57 PM EDT
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Success!

I went back to TPM on Monday and Ken removed a little bit of material from the receiver below the magazine catch, this let the mag catch sit a little lower and relieved the pressure from the magazines on the bolt. I shot a couple hundred rounds today through 5 or 6 different mags with zero malfunctions. The end cap stayed tight on the can, the threads are pretty rough but I put on some anti-seize and that added a little resistance. It was still easy to remove after getting home from the range. A few days ago I tried to remove the suppressor and the tube unscrewed from the base cap, it was stuck on the receiver threads. I put some loctite on it and the next day I was able to remove the whole thing. Today the tube came unscrewed a little at the range despite the Loctite and when I got home it the tube still just came off the base cap. I cleaned the internals and put loctite on the tube again so hopefully I will be able to remove the base cap from the gun tomorrow. I might try Rockset next time to stand the heat better.

Today I mostly shot Stand 1 Armory 147 grain ammo and it was fantastically quiet, much quieter than any of the 115 grain rounds I tried previously. In my MKE MP5s I use the Stand 1 147 grain "chubbies" reduced power loads almost exclusively. The chubbies are slightly quieter than the normal 147 grain loads and have less blowback and might be a little cleaner. Today I only brought the regular full power 147 grain ammo that I normally use in my suppressed handguns, I might try chubbies in the SD another time.

I also tried out my Ghost with 3-lug mount I just got on my full size MKE, it sounded great in both long and short configurations so I think I'll dedicate it to that MP5 in short configuration. It's way too loud on 45 pistols.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Omega 9K came home today. This thing is badass, you can't even see it when you have the gun shouldered.

Paperwork sent 6/10/16, approved 3/12/17, form received 3/20/17.

Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:59:13 PM EDT
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Congrats.

I still have nothing.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 10:34:51 PM EDT
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my Mp5K with the trigger pack is appraching 1500 rounds!
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 6:12:49 PM EDT
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You're not alone brother.

Arizona Magazine (hoarders) Anonymous (MA) chapter president checking in for today's session:

"Hello my name is Mr.Maim and I am an HK magazine hoarder. It's been one week since I bought my last HK magazine." 
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 10:17:29 PM EDT
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Thats just the start ...
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 12:18:46 PM EDT
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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_142256_zpsawkdaapl.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_171546_zps3wkomgl8.jpg

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Can i get a parts list of this stuff so i can make one also?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 1:37:44 PM EDT
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$18 an a little bit of time later, I have a two-foot-long double-ended barrel port brush. I'll cut this baby in half and get two cleaning tools out of it for only $3 more than building one of them. I'll have to wait until the cement cures to use it, but it's really not that dirty for all the doom and gloom I've read about. Maybe I'm just used to suppressed rifles?

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_142256_zpsawkdaapl.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_171546_zps3wkomgl8.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd519/generalpurpose87/20170226_145337_zpsuijuq2zt.jpg
Can i get a parts list of this stuff so i can make one also?
Sure, it's just what you see in the photo there. Two pipe brushes (1/2" diameter hole) and a 2' length of 1" PVC, plus some rubber cement to hold it together and a dremel to open up the ends of the pipe cleaners.

There's a build thread (not from me) on HKPro - You should be able to find out if you search Google. I'm on my phone and can't find my bookmark for it at the moment. Let me know if you're unable to find it and I'll dig for it.

ETA: Found it.

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-reference-library/257233-mp5sd-barrel-port-brush-tool-build.html#/topics/257233?page=1
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 2:13:15 PM EDT
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Sure, it's just what you see in the photo there. Two pipe brushes (1/2" diameter hole) and a 2' length of 1" PVC, plus some rubber cement to hold it together and a dremel to open up the ends of the pipe cleaners.

There's a build thread (not from me) on HKPro - You should be able to find out if you search Google. I'm on my phone and can't find my bookmark for it at the moment. Let me know if you're unable to find it and I'll dig for it.

ETA: Found it.

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-reference-library/257233-mp5sd-barrel-port-brush-tool-build.html#/topics/257233?page=1
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GP Thank you so much!!!!
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:55:53 PM EDT
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Look what showed up today for a customer:

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Awesome!

I picked up a box of American Eagle 124 grain, I'm going to the range today and I'll compare it to the Stand 1 Armory 147 grain. The Winchester 124 grain that TPM recommends seems to be hard to find locally but I'll keep looking. I just want one box to see how it compares, once I found what the quietest ammo is I'll stock up.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 6:20:23 PM EDT
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Tested the Omega 9K next to the Octane .45 today on the K-PDW. From the shooter's perspective, they're indistinguishable. Bystanders said the Omega 9K is just slightly louder.

I'm really surprised, I didn't expect the Omega 9K to sound so good at its size. Awesome can.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 6:58:32 PM EDT
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Tested the Omega 9K next to the Octane .45 today on the K-PDW. From the shooter's perspective, they're indistinguishable. Bystanders said the Omega 9K is just slightly louder.

I'm really surprised, I didn't expect the Omega 9K to sound so good at its size. Awesome can.
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I'm not doing the math. What's the volume of each?
Care to plug them and fill with whiskey? I mean water
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 8:33:58 PM EDT
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I'm not doing the math. What's the volume of each?
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Omega 9K is 8.09"
Octane 45 is 12.53"
Link Posted: 3/27/2017 11:54:02 PM EDT
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Success!

I went back to TPM on Monday and Ken removed a little bit of material from the receiver below the magazine catch, this let the mag catch sit a little lower and relieved the pressure from the magazines on the bolt. I shot a couple hundred rounds today through 5 or 6 different mags with zero malfunctions. The end cap stayed tight on the can, the threads are pretty rough but I put on some anti-seize and that added a little resistance. It was still easy to remove after getting home from the range. A few days ago I tried to remove the suppressor and the tube unscrewed from the base cap, it was stuck on the receiver threads. I put some loctite on it and the next day I was able to remove the whole thing. Today the tube came unscrewed a little at the range despite the Loctite and when I got home it the tube still just came off the base cap. I cleaned the internals and put loctite on the tube again so hopefully I will be able to remove the base cap from the gun tomorrow. I might try Rockset next time to stand the heat better.

Today I mostly shot Stand 1 Armory 147 grain ammo and it was fantastically quiet, much quieter than any of the 115 grain rounds I tried previously. In my MKE MP5s I use the Stand 1 147 grain "chubbies" reduced power loads almost exclusively. The chubbies are slightly quieter than the normal 147 grain loads and have less blowback and might be a little cleaner. Today I only brought the regular full power 147 grain ammo that I normally use in my suppressed handguns, I might try chubbies in the SD another time.

I also tried out my Ghost with 3-lug mount I just got on my full size MKE, it sounded great in both long and short configurations so I think I'll dedicate it to that MP5 in short configuration. It's way too loud on 45 pistols.
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The 124 grain AE was a little bit louder than 147 grain and somewhat gassier. Recoil seemed about the same. I'll try other ammo as I find it but for now I'm totally happy with the 147 grain ammo.

Here it is with some friends:
Link Posted: 4/1/2017 1:16:08 AM EDT
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Swung by TPM at lunch and had them switch some things up with my MP5s.

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Swung by TPM at lunch and had them switch some things up with my MP5s.

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Ha!

Ok. How do they sound?
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Awesome! When did TPM hire Todd Bailey to start working on MP5s again?
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Swung by TPM at lunch and had them switch some things up with my MP5s.

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Awesome! When did TPM hire Todd Bailey to start working on MP5s again?
TPM stands for "Todd Puppet Master" - he never left, he's been in charge the whole time. Matt and Ken are just there for show so nobody knows it's actually Todd doing everything.





And because I know someone will see this post in 5 years and take that seriously - it's a joke.
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We were there around lunch yesterday. I guess you got there right after we left.
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Suddenly I feel the urge to form 1 a short MP5sd can
Link Posted: 4/1/2017 3:47:32 PM EDT
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That SD looks sweet with the Omega 9k!
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Giving TPM a call today to get one of their SD cans on the way. Decided I wanted a 2nd can for the SD.
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Giving TPM a call today to get one of their SD cans on the way. Decided I wanted a 2nd can for the SD.
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Mind asking if they will make a k-sized SD can?
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B&T has a MP5SD-C short can...
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that is easy peezy.

remove one of the baffles and rethread.
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Regular is 12", how short is 'K-size' to you?
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