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Dang. 4 month wait just to wait. Glad I stocked up on NFA last year.
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Good point. I plan to only use the Pelican for transport. Mags stay in my safe. But while we're on the topic, what do you do to prevent these mags from rusting? I have some RemOil wipes that I can wipe them down on the outside pretty easily. Do you oil the inside of the mags, too? Is that possible without potentially harming the primers? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I would not leave mp5 mags near anything foam (pelican). They rust. easily. Like a bitch. and it sucks when its 70 a pop. Good point. I plan to only use the Pelican for transport. Mags stay in my safe. But while we're on the topic, what do you do to prevent these mags from rusting? I have some RemOil wipes that I can wipe them down on the outside pretty easily. Do you oil the inside of the mags, too? Is that possible without potentially harming the primers? I'd wipe inside the mag also. Shouldn't affect the primers. |
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I just looked at the date on my Form 4 and I am only 4 months into it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My F3 for TPM SD silencer came in. Four months on a F3 - ouch. I just looked at the date on my Form 4 and I am only 4 months into it. The wait will be brutal. Couple of my cans should come in anytime now....Soon............... |
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The SD is definitely a niche gun. Let it simmer. It will come to you. View Quote It will happen... THIS thread is the one that did it for me. Once I saw the 3 of them sitting there, all pretty like... the more it grew on me. Don't fight it! Let it happen! |
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Welcome to the TPM Visitors club! It's not a big one! View Quote I finally made my second trip to TPM this morning and dropped off my HK94. I decided to go with the MP5-N conversion. We had already finished the paperwork for my rifle when I asked them what suppressor they recommended for the MP5-N. One thing led to another, and now I have two Form 4s to file. They had a Gemtech Multimount (with a 1/2 - 28 mount) in stock. Given the price and the ability to work with a single local dealer for both the SBR conversion and the suppressor, I decided to pull the trigger on the Gemtech. I can't even say the wait has begun yet, because I still need to get my fingerprints before I can submit the Form 4s. Hopefully I'll be able to bring them home before next summer. |
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It will happen... THIS thread is the one that did it for me. Once I saw the 3 of them sitting there, all pretty like... the more it grew on me. Don't fight it! Let it happen! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The SD is definitely a niche gun. Let it simmer. It will come to you. It will happen... THIS thread is the one that did it for me. Once I saw the 3 of them sitting there, all pretty like... the more it grew on me. Don't fight it! Let it happen! "How can something so wrong feel so right.. |
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[#9]
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My F3 for TPM SD silencer came in. Four months on a F3 - ouch. View Quote At least a Form 3 means you have it in hand now. Really looking forward to your impression of the TPM silencer versus your other SD silencers. I have another 4+ months yet to go. Waiting on all my other forms hasn't been a big deal, but I can't stop thinking about this one. |
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I finally made my second trip to TPM this morning and dropped off my HK94. I decided to go with the MP5-N conversion. We had already finished the paperwork for my rifle when I asked them what suppressor they recommended for the MP5-N. One thing led to another, and now I have two Form 4s to file. They had a Gemtech Multimount (with a 1/2 - 28 mount) in stock. Given the price and the ability to work with a single local dealer for both the SBR conversion and the suppressor, I decided to pull the trigger on the Gemtech. I can't even say the wait has begun yet, because I still need to get my fingerprints before I can submit the Form 4s. Hopefully I'll be able to bring them home before next summer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Welcome to the TPM Visitors club! It's not a big one! I finally made my second trip to TPM this morning and dropped off my HK94. I decided to go with the MP5-N conversion. We had already finished the paperwork for my rifle when I asked them what suppressor they recommended for the MP5-N. One thing led to another, and now I have two Form 4s to file. They had a Gemtech Multimount (with a 1/2 - 28 mount) in stock. Given the price and the ability to work with a single local dealer for both the SBR conversion and the suppressor, I decided to pull the trigger on the Gemtech. I can't even say the wait has begun yet, because I still need to get my fingerprints before I can submit the Form 4s. Hopefully I'll be able to bring them home before next summer. I'm stopping buy tomorrow so my lawyer can look at SDs! |
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At least a Form 3 means you have it in hand now. Really looking forward to your impression of the TPM silencer versus your other SD silencers. I have another 4+ months yet to go. Waiting on all my other forms hasn't been a big deal, but I can't stop thinking about this one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My F3 for TPM SD silencer came in. Four months on a F3 - ouch. At least a Form 3 means you have it in hand now. Really looking forward to your impression of the TPM silencer versus your other SD silencers. I have another 4+ months yet to go. Waiting on all my other forms hasn't been a big deal, but I can't stop thinking about this one. Heading over now. Will do a 3-way comparison later. |
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Find out if they still have any complete gun/silencers stock.
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Heading over now. Will do a 3-way comparison later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My F3 for TPM SD silencer came in. Four months on a F3 - ouch. At least a Form 3 means you have it in hand now. Really looking forward to your impression of the TPM silencer versus your other SD silencers. I have another 4+ months yet to go. Waiting on all my other forms hasn't been a big deal, but I can't stop thinking about this one. Heading over now. Will do a 3-way comparison later. Promise? |
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I wanna know if how many if any they got in stock? My secondary question is how would their can work on Atlantic Omega SD upper but Im sure thats not something they can answer.
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I wanna know if how many if any they got in stock? My secondary question is how would their can work on Atlantic Omega SD upper but Im sure thats not something they can answer. View Quote They don't have any complete MP5SD's in stock and are at about a 5 month lead time right now. They have plenty of SD can's ready for form 3 or 4's. Their can will work with the Omega upper so long as it is the regular thread pattern as a factory SD. |
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They don't have any complete MP5SD's in stock and are at about a 5 month lead time right now. They have plenty of SD can's ready for form 3 or 4's. Their can will work with the Omega upper so long as it is the regular thread pattern as a factory SD. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wanna know if how many if any they got in stock? My secondary question is how would their can work on Atlantic Omega SD upper but Im sure thats not something they can answer. They don't have any complete MP5SD's in stock and are at about a 5 month lead time right now. They have plenty of SD can's ready for form 3 or 4's. Their can will work with the Omega upper so long as it is the regular thread pattern as a factory SD. Did you see my SD? Is it ok? Why doesn't it call me? Also, why did you take your attorney? Something's afoot. |
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Did you see my SD? Is it ok? Why doesn't it call me? Also, why did you take your attorney? Something's afoot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wanna know if how many if any they got in stock? My secondary question is how would their can work on Atlantic Omega SD upper but Im sure thats not something they can answer. They don't have any complete MP5SD's in stock and are at about a 5 month lead time right now. They have plenty of SD can's ready for form 3 or 4's. Their can will work with the Omega upper so long as it is the regular thread pattern as a factory SD. Did you see my SD? Is it ok? Why doesn't it call me? Also, why did you take your attorney? Something's afoot. First thing Ken said "he's not gonna sue me is he" He was on the phone with someone when I got there who was asking about SD's and how theirs were, he told the guy to look for this thread. lol |
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Wish they'd release their Rotex cans in 5.56 & 7.62 already...
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This process is maddening. 6 months waiting so I can wait for another year? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Still waiting on the Form 3s. sorry you got F'd by the ATF. This process is maddening. 6 months waiting so I can wait for another year? did you ever talk to the ATF about it? |
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I'm letting the guys at TPM handle it. Don't want to step on any toes.
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did you ever talk to the ATF about it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Still waiting on the Form 3s. sorry you got F'd by the ATF. This process is maddening. 6 months waiting so I can wait for another year? did you ever talk to the ATF about it? |
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[#29]
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So I have accumulated 3 SD cans - TPM, KAC & B&T Here are specs: TPM - Length = 12 1/8", Diameter = 1.52", Weight = 15.46 KAC - Length = 11 7/8", Diameter = 1.38", Weight = 20.14 B&T - Length = 12", Diameter = 1.58", Weight = 17.18 As you would expect, the KAC can is built like a tank and could double as sledge hammer. The B&T is a stout can with no external welds, and the TPM can is the only one that comes apart for cleaning. The knurling on the TPM can makes it easy to spin on/off. Sound wise they are all very similar to the ear. I have not metered any of them, and would need one to differentiate as their is no obvious difference. Ammo was PMC/115 or Blaser/115. As with most HK roller lock weapon, using the correct locking piece is crucial to holding the breech closed till gases have gone out the BBL. Too early an unlock will make it very loud to the ear. Top To Bottom - B&T, TPM, KAC: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1757_zpsopm6jqnz.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1757_zpsopm6jqnz.jpg</a> Exit Caps - KAC, TPM, B&T: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1759_zpsskwwkxf2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1759_zpsskwwkxf2.jpg</a> TPM can diassembled: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1760_zpsmcmvuvhx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1760_zpsmcmvuvhx.jpg</a> TPM can on MP5SD: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/FullSizeRender_zps3cayhip1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/FullSizeRender_zps3cayhip1.jpg</a> View Quote What locking piece are you using? 100? 110? |
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Thanks for the comparison. Much appreciated.
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So I have accumulated 3 SD cans - TPM, KAC & B&T Here are specs: TPM - Length = 12 1/8", Diameter = 1.52", Weight = 15.46 KAC - Length = 11 7/8", Diameter = 1.38", Weight = 20.14 B&T - Length = 12", Diameter = 1.58", Weight = 17.18 As you would expect, the KAC can is built like a tank and could double as sledge hammer. The B&T is a stout can with no external welds, and the TPM can is the only one that comes apart for cleaning. The knurling on the TPM can makes it easy to spin on/off. Sound wise they are all very similar to the ear. I have not metered any of them, and would need one to differentiate as their is no obvious difference. Ammo was PMC/115 or Blaser/115. As with most HK roller lock weapon, using the correct locking piece is crucial to holding the breech closed till gases have gone out the BBL. Too early an unlock will make it very loud to the ear. Top To Bottom - B&T, TPM, KAC: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1757_zpsopm6jqnz.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1757_zpsopm6jqnz.jpg</a> Exit Caps - KAC, TPM, B&T: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1759_zpsskwwkxf2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1759_zpsskwwkxf2.jpg</a> TPM can diassembled: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1760_zpsmcmvuvhx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1760_zpsmcmvuvhx.jpg</a> TPM can on MP5SD: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/FullSizeRender_zps3cayhip1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/FullSizeRender_zps3cayhip1.jpg</a> View Quote |
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So I have accumulated 3 SD cans - TPM, KAC & B&T Here are specs: TPM - Length = 12 1/8", Diameter = 1.52", Weight = 15.46 KAC - Length = 11 7/8", Diameter = 1.38", Weight = 20.14 B&T - Length = 12", Diameter = 1.58", Weight = 17.18 As you would expect, the KAC can is built like a tank and could double as sledge hammer. The B&T is a stout can with no external welds, and the TPM can is the only one that comes apart for cleaning. The knurling on the TPM can makes it easy to spin on/off. Sound wise they are all very similar to the ear. I have not metered any of them, and would need one to differentiate as their is no obvious difference. Ammo was PMC/115 or Blaser/115. As with most HK roller lock weapon, using the correct locking piece is crucial to holding the breech closed till gases have gone out the BBL. Too early an unlock will make it very loud to the ear. Top To Bottom - B&T, TPM, KAC: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1757_zpsopm6jqnz.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1757_zpsopm6jqnz.jpg</a> Exit Caps - KAC, TPM, B&T: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1759_zpsskwwkxf2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1759_zpsskwwkxf2.jpg</a> TPM can diassembled: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/IMG_1760_zpsmcmvuvhx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/IMG_1760_zpsmcmvuvhx.jpg</a> TPM can on MP5SD: <a href="http://s839.photobucket.com/user/Umbrarian/media/Guns/HK/FullSizeRender_zps3cayhip1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/Umbrarian/Guns/HK/FullSizeRender_zps3cayhip1.jpg</a> View Quote Favorite? Critiques if a 4th party was to jump in and build one? Any notable changes you would make? |
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I personally would like to see price info added. Tpm is cheapest. KAC is about the 2x the cost of TPM, and B&T is about 1.5x cost of TPM.
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Favorite? Critiques if a 4th party was to jump in and build one? Any notable changes you would make? View Quote I have had the B&T can the longest, and like it the most. I will probably like the TPM can the most once I start using it. I would like to see a "K" version that is a few inches shorter. The knurling on the TPM can is a must, everyone should do that. |
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I personally would like to see price info added. Tpm is cheapest. KAC is about the 2x the cost of TPM, and B&T is about 1.5x cost of TPM. As a 4th horse for the race I would add RCMs can at $500. View Quote I think TPM is $599, the last run of the KAC cans went for $1950, not sure what B&T currently is. |
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Hence why I got one, even though I have the B&T and KAC. And it comes apart too. Seemed like an easy choice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I didn't realize TPM's can was not as expensive as I had thought. For that price, I may have to look at ordering a spare SD can. Hence why I got one, even though I have the B&T and KAC. And it comes apart too. Seemed like an easy choice. Understood. I got my RCM as it was a left-over from a group buy on Pro, for like $400. It comes apart. Suppresses great, hard to complain about any of it. Basic "freeze-plug" baffle design, but with ported barrel and internal volume, baffle design is forgiving. May look into TPM later, as post-41F funds improve. |
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Renegade, thanks for the comparison. I can't quite tell from your pictures: Does the TPM can still have the short flange that protrudes from the rear of the can where it threads onto the barrel, or does it sit flush now and engage the O-ring?
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Renegade, thanks for the comparison. I can't quite tell from your pictures: Does the TPM can still have the short flange that protrudes from the rear of the can where it threads onto the barrel, or does it sit flush now and engage the O-ring? View Quote Mine is flush which is the standard. The version you speak of is for SP89 BBLS converted to SD BBLs. As explained to me by Ken, who showed me the SP89 BBL and why they did it. |
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Mine is flush which is the standard. The version you speak of is for SP89 BBLS converted to SD BBLs. As explained to me by Ken, who showed me the SP89 BBL and why they did it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Renegade, thanks for the comparison. I can't quite tell from your pictures: Does the TPM can still have the short flange that protrudes from the rear of the can where it threads onto the barrel, or does it sit flush now and engage the O-ring? Mine is flush which is the standard. The version you speak of is for SP89 BBLS converted to SD BBLs. As explained to me by Ken, who showed me the SP89 BBL and why they did it. Good to know, thanks. When I bought mine, they told me they were making the switch to the flush endcap, but I wasn't aware of why the other version existed. |
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Just to add to the discussion. I've been talking with Joe from Curtis Tactical and he also makes an SD can. It's very similar in design to the integral MPX can that has photos floating around.
The price I was quoted was under $900 which makes it more expensive than the TPM can but it does have stainless steel baffles and a shielded design. |
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I'd like to see Griffin Armament make an SD can. I think they could strike a very good balance between durability and weight. My only concern with TPM's can is with it being aluminum, but I already know it's going to be a gun that I break down for cleaning after every trip to the range. It's by far the lightest SD can I've held, so I think it's worth it.
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Talking to Gary yesterday...
Me: "DA should make an SD Can" Gary: "Stay tuned" |
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[#47]
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I have had the B&T can the longest, and like it the most. I will probably like the TPM can the most once I start using it. I would like to see a "K" version that is a few inches shorter. The knurling on the TPM can is a must, everyone should do that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Favorite? Critiques if a 4th party was to jump in and build one? Any notable changes you would make? I have had the B&T can the longest, and like it the most. I will probably like the TPM can the most once I start using it. I would like to see a "K" version that is a few inches shorter. The knurling on the TPM can is a must, everyone should do that. I would love to have a good SD can about 4" shorter, would be badass. |
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See previous page. B&T has an SD-C can coming. About 4" shorter.
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Favorite? Critiques if a 4th party was to jump in and build one? Any notable changes you would make? I have had the B&T can the longest, and like it the most. I will probably like the TPM can the most once I start using it. I would like to see a "K" version that is a few inches shorter. The knurling on the TPM can is a must, everyone should do that. I would love to have a good SD can about 4" shorter, would be badass. |
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Form 3 cleared. My SD arrives in state tomorrow. View Quote Sucks that it took that long...but that's good news nonetheless. We need pics when you visit. Is your dealer at a place where you can shoot while you wait? I just checked and I'm 5 months in on my SD, 3.5 months on my Omega 9K, and awaiting Form 3 for my Sten. I might lose my mind soon. |
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