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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:19:34 PM EDT
After seeing the sub 2 month form 4 times I had to call and check my status since I was at the three month stage.
I called the NFA line at 304-616-4500 to check the status. This time I was put in an automated answering system. Press three for form 1 and form 4 status. All I got was a recording saying current wait times are 6 months. And if you are past that amount of time to leave a message and someone should get back in touch with you with in two business days! 
WTFO Is this new? |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:21:10 PM EDT
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I called today as well. Appears brand new
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:21:11 PM EDT
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After seeing the sub 2 month form 4 times I had to call and check my status since I was at the three month stage. I called the NFA line at 304-616-4500 to check the status. This time I was put in an automated answering system. Press three for form 1 and form 4 status. All I got was a recording saying current wait times are 6 months. And if you are past that amount of time to leave a message and someone should get back in touch with you with in two business days!
WTFO Is this new? Got tired of people calling all day every day starting a week after they submitted... |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:29:20 PM EDT
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In my defense....This is the second time I called. First was a few weeks after the check was cashed to make sure it was on the system. Only reason I called today was the current wait times being reported. I am over these months now.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:31:40 PM EDT
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:33:49 PM EDT
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It's the concept of it. We were told those weren't examiners, rather dedicated CS reps whose sole job was to take inquiries about submitted forms.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:39:40 PM EDT
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Personally, I'm sort of glad that it's out of the way... I've done a few F1s and am waiting on my first F4. I called once to get the info to post up to NFA Tracker (actually had my dealer do it) but if they can put those people towards more constructive tasks, I'm all for it... It gets there when it gets there. I understand wanting to know "when" but the whole process continues independent of whether you know or not.
That said, if they're just reassigning them to the JBT department, well, then fuck that 
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:43:17 PM EDT
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According to some posts in other threads, if you never hit a button to choose a menu option, you end up getting somebody you can ask for a status.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:51:12 PM EDT
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Maybe if it weren't for all the needy baby greedy babies writing letters about sig braces and calling for status every week and crying incessantly about lead times NFA Branch might run a little smoother.
Lead times are the lowest they've been in 4 years. Stop crying. Me personally I'd rather have the person that answers the phone rubber stamping forms instead. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 5:02:21 PM EDT
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I have three pending that hit 6 months from check cashing this weekend. While I would love to be able to get a status, I'd rather that person getting through the stacks sitting on their desk than having to answer phone calls about status. I have learned to just be patient with NFA items, and get an idea from my FFL as to the times they are seeing.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 6:05:57 PM EDT
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I have found that the best "cure" for the wait is to just go BUY ANOTHER CAN.
 If you do this often enough you start getting Forms approved and returned that you somehow FORGOT about.  Every time I feel like harassing the ATF about the "wait times" I just buy another can, or file another Form 1 to build one. Then when they come in its like a Christmas Surprise.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 6:31:14 PM EDT
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 6:42:15 PM EDT
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Kinda sucks. I just want to know if I'm pending, especially on F4 with a dealer I haven't used before. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 6:42:23 PM EDT
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Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. Agreed. The sig brace debacle all over again. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 7:28:59 PM EDT
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Its nice to call especially if you have a shady dealer. If I wasn't on top of it I bet my so called dealer wouldn't have called me.
Or if they loose your paper work (which happens). So if you never call you go on good faith. No thanks its the government. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 7:36:52 PM EDT
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All they ever told you anyway was whether it was pending or not. Maybe now they'll get more work done instead of answering the same calls all day.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 7:40:26 PM EDT
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I like to call once, a month after my check is cashed to ensure that the forms were not lost and have gone pending as they should. I have had paperwork lost in the past and I don't want to go the entire 6 months before finding out that my paperwork was never in line.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 7:53:05 PM EDT
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I like to call twice a month after my check is cashed to ensure that the forms were not lost and have gone pending as they should. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:17:35 PM EDT
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If you stay on the line after the message, it'll ring to a person.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:58:05 PM EDT
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If you stay on the line after the message, it'll ring to a person. yup, I already posted this in another post for this same subject.. stay on the line and you will be connected to a person. I called yesterday and got the same message.. stay on and you'll be connected to a person within a few seconds.. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:00:12 PM EDT
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Why they did not answer today.
http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/current-status// |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:00:16 PM EDT
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a few times I found out by calling the NFA number Before the dealer contacted me
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Nailed it. I like to think if you call they move you to the back of the stack... |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:42:57 PM EDT
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Good. I hope the people manning the phones are being used to process forms.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:44:09 PM EDT
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Nailed it. I like to think if you call they move you to the back of the stack... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Nailed it. I like to think if you call they move you to the back of the stack... I doubt they would waste their time on that. Its nice to be able to call when you don't go the trust route as it seems to take significantly more time for a individual than a trust. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:55:28 PM EDT
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Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. X2. Calling them helps nothing and only takes time. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:56:14 PM EDT
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 10:23:33 PM EDT
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You guys either got some shoddy ass dealers that don't tell you when they get paperwork from atf or you're really just anal.
6 months, deal with it. I hope they block the loop in getting to a person soon. Just to piss everyone off. No use in calling if you have a good dealer and when crazy stuff happens like lost paperwork or stamp they get around to it fast and understand. 6 months is a good bench mark. If nothing happens then call then. It'll get sorted out asap. I think they are going to go this route with that regardless of situation as long as it's hit that 6 mo th mark. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 2:24:35 AM EDT
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My understanding of the customer service reps who answer the incoming calls, is that they are not at all the same folks who work on approving the tax stamps. Am I wrong about that?
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Posted: 3/6/2015 3:05:54 AM EDT
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My understanding of the customer service reps who answer the incoming calls, is that they are not at all the same folks who work on approving the tax stamps. Am I wrong about that? I don't know either but I believe they have a higher responsibility than just answering phones. I called 2 weeks ago checking to see my pending date on a Spectre 2 and I left out the "2" in SPCT"2"-xxxx reading off my serial and the rep said. "You left out the 2 but no big deal I see it here pending date is...." "I know that specific suppressor serial as I see it at least 10 times a day from processing paperwork." Who knows I could be wrong?+ ETA: grammer |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 8:35:14 AM EDT
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 8:40:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding of the customer service reps who answer the incoming calls, is that they are not at all the same folks who work on approving the tax stamps. Am I wrong about that? That was my understanding as well which ha been mentioned by people who have years dealing with it. I don't really call, but if they aren't fielding calls I hope that translates to more efficiency in the process. It was not examiners answering the phones though that is for sure. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:34:52 AM EDT
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I don't blame them. I could imagine how often some people would call. Just let it go. Forget about it. Would you want your boss calling you all the time to make sure youre still working?
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:45:49 AM EDT
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Exactly. Calling them every few weeks isn't going to get it approved any faster. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:50:50 AM EDT
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Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. If their are errors, they send it back for corrections. Yup. Let them do their job and they will let you know when it's done. Quit bothering them. +1...I have never called. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:58:30 AM EDT
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I called once or twice on my first couple of transfers. The last 8 I have not and I doubt I will for any transfers in the future.
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:01:36 AM EDT
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It would be nice if they had a tracking system like ups/fedex
log in, see your status and maybe an estimated approval date based on some form of calculation, log out I wouldn't know how to write it, but some ppl know how to Even better, an app for ur phone Someone volunteer their programming skills and see if they will use it lol |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:08:33 AM EDT
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It would be nice if they had a tracking system like ups/fedex log in, see your status and maybe an estimated approval date based on some form of calculation, log out I wouldn't know how to write it, but some ppl know how to Even better, an app for ur phone Someone volunteer their programming skills and see if they will use it lol That's in part what the efile system they already have is. It has been down for some time for form 4s and won't open most likely until V.2 of Efile system is done. But is open for form 1s for trusts and you can log in and see when you went pending and then get an email (most of time) when approved. I can't see them doing an online tracking system for those who submit paper forms. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:10:53 AM EDT
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Its nice to call especially if you have a shady dealer. If I wasn't on top of it I bet my so called dealer wouldn't have called me. Or if they loose your paper work (which happens). So if you never call you go on good faith. No thanks its the government. He's right you know. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:10:56 AM EDT
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Did I make it in before someone claimed this was in retaliation for Nolo's lawsuits? |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:14:33 AM EDT
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Got tired of people calling all day every day starting a week after they submitted... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After seeing the sub 2 month form 4 times I had to call and check my status since I was at the three month stage. I called the NFA line at 304-616-4500 to check the status. This time I was put in an automated answering system. Press three for form 1 and form 4 status. All I got was a recording saying current wait times are 6 months. And if you are past that amount of time to leave a message and someone should get back in touch with you with in two business days!
WTFO Is this new? Got tired of people calling all day every day starting a week after they submitted... Yep. As much as I despise the ATF, I can't say I blame them on this. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:21:38 AM EDT
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I have found that the best "cure" for the wait is to just go BUY ANOTHER CAN. If you do this often enough you start getting Forms approved and returned that you somehow FORGOT about. Every time I feel like harassing the ATF about the "wait times" I just buy another can, or file another Form 1 to build one. Then when they come in its like a Christmas Surprise.It also helps to do three at a time.
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Posted: 3/6/2015 1:40:50 PM EDT
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It also helps to do three four at a time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have found that the best "cure" for the wait is to just go BUY ANOTHER CAN. If you do this often enough you start getting Forms approved and returned that you somehow FORGOT about. Every time I feel like harassing the ATF about the "wait times" I just buy another can, or file another Form 1 to build one. Then when they come in its like a Christmas Surprise.It also helps to do three four at a time. FIFY |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 3:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe if it weren't for all the needy baby greedy babies writing letters about sig braces and calling for status every week and crying incessantly about lead times NFA Branch might run a little smoother. Lead times are the lowest they've been in 4 years. Stop crying. Me personally I'd rather have the person that answers the phone rubber stamping forms instead.  |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 4:23:42 PM EDT
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I've never called, when it comes - it comes. Exactly. I am on transfer 4 and never called once. Not sure how they all got to me without the daily checkups.
EDIT: Hmm, maybe now transfer times will decrease even more due to not having to answer the phone all day long. I'd be ok with that. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 6:15:40 PM EDT
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Good. Stop tying down the ATF with these stupid, incessant phone calls.
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Posted: 3/6/2015 7:29:36 PM EDT
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I like to call. I'm glad they still answer.
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Posted: 3/6/2015 9:18:58 PM EDT
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Its nice to call especially if you have a shady dealer. If I wasn't on top of it I bet my so called dealer wouldn't have called me. Or if they loose your paper work (which happens). So if you never call you go on good faith. No thanks its the government. Who did you use? |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 9:33:37 PM EDT
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I would get some time-frame in my head based on what people were reporting at various places that it was taking, and determined that when that elapsed, I would call as often as possible to get the status of my paperwork.
These people work for us, and need to do the jobs they are paid to do. Government serves the people, not the other way around. Also, I always sent my forms registered mail, return receipt requested. I would know they got my forms and at least pulled the check off that was paperclipped to it when the check hit my bank, or when the little green postcard arrived. I would always call 30 days after check cashing to check status, and then not again for months, unless it met that imaginary time-frame mentioned above. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 9:35:08 PM EDT
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I like to double check any paperwork I send . I only call once per form, it was a nice service.
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:02:03 PM EDT
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I would get some time-frame in my head based on what people were reporting at various places that it was taking, and determined that when that elapsed, I would call as often as possible to get the status of my paperwork. These people work for us, and need to do the jobs they are paid to do. Government serves the people, not the other way around. Also, I always sent my forms registered mail, return receipt requested. I would know they got my forms and at least pulled the check off that was paperclipped to it when the check hit my bank, or when the little green postcard arrived. I would always call 30 days after check cashing to check status, and then not again for months, unless it met that imaginary time-frame mentioned above. This Again, they're not examiners |
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