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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:10:15 PM EDT
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Wonder what the minimal barrel lengths might be for this can? Cant seem to find that info The thread on TOS shares this info: Limited to 10" barrel for .223/5.56 NATO Limited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Limited to 20" barrel for magnum calibers |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:11:22 PM EDT
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The thread on TOS shares this info: Limited to 10" barrel for .223/5.56 NATO Limited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Limited to 20" barrel for magnum calibers Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wonder what the minimal barrel lengths might be for this can? Cant seem to find that info The thread on TOS shares this info: Limited to 10" barrel for .223/5.56 NATO Limited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Limited to 20" barrel for magnum calibers Thanks kindly! |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote Historylimited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Thank God there's something the Saker I have in jail can do that the Omega can't |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:20:21 PM EDT
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Thank God there's something the Saker I have in jail can do that the Omega can't Quote HistoryQuoted:
limited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Thank God there's something the Saker I have in jail can do that the Omega can't Thats funny right there! I hear ya. Almost pulled trigger on Saker a week ago. Just ordered the Omega. Thankfully, using on 20 inch 308 and a 16 and 18 556 |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:31:06 PM EDT
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8" for 300blk
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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:47:03 PM EDT
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Wonder what the minimal barrel lengths might be for this can? Cant seem to find that info Limited to 10" barrel for .223/5.56 NATO Limited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Limited to 20" barrel for magnum calibers It's been posted on this site several times. 
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Posted: 1/12/2015 6:03:30 PM EDT
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Until Silencershop comes out with their own independent video confirming the db's I will remain optimistically hesitant. Those are impressive numbers for a can that is shorter and cheaper then the Saker.
Considering I already have 2 Sakers pending, and own TBAC cans for my titanium needs, I won't be buying one unless they introduce a MAAD mount option.... I would even pay more for a MAAD mount version ($950.00) |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 6:08:13 PM EDT
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......waiting for baffle stack pics or X-ray......
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Posted: 1/12/2015 6:09:44 PM EDT
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Damn. I have an SAS Reaper at 7" and 10.5 ounces, but not full auto rated (not that I have a full auto weapon), just got it in hand a month ago. Would have definitely gone with this can had it been out.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 6:09:59 PM EDT
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......waiting for baffle stack pics or X-ray...... Ha same here. So is it fair to assume that the baffles after the blast baffle are 17-4? Or might they be Ti? |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 6:12:02 PM EDT
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Thank God there's something the Saker I have in jail can do that the Omega can't Quote HistoryQuoted:
limited to 16" barrel for .308/7.62 NATO Thank God there's something the Saker I have in jail can do that the Omega can't And one hand on and off. But that's really all. I'm a little pissed to say the least about the mounting system on the Omega.  . I'm assuming they were going with a thread on version first then they said "I bet the big bore asr mount would work". Or the other way around. I don't know?
I guess I'll have to wait till next shot show to see a better option I guess. 
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Posted: 1/12/2015 6:22:47 PM EDT
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......waiting for baffle stack pics or X-ray...... Is this line diagram on the sales sheet PDF helpful? |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 8:17:12 PM EDT
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I think I remember reading somewhere that the anchor brake is removable..
If you could take it off, you can cut about an inch off it's length. Maybe they will come out with a flush endcap? |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 8:28:15 PM EDT
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I think I remember reading somewhere that the anchor brake is removable.. If you could take it off, you can cut about an inch off it's length. Maybe they will come out with a flush endcap? I'd be shocked if the saker one didn't fit, considering the other similarities. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 8:40:45 PM EDT
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Fuck....I already have both Sakers but I just ordered a harvester a month ago for a lightweight centerfire can. Now this shit? I need to see if my nfa guy wants to buy my harvester and I'll go with this instead.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 9:05:23 PM EDT
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......waiting for baffle stack pics or X-ray...... Is this line diagram on the sales sheet PDF helpful? That's a teaser. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 9:16:55 PM EDT
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This is going to happen every year. New hotness is going to roll out just about the same time your Form 4 clears and you pick up your old hotness.
I don't see a reason for anyone to be regretting Sakers or second guessing other purchases. Fast forward 9 months and we will be doing this again. We are one the Suppressor/iPhone release schedule. Or maybe I just want one and this is my way of coping. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 9:22:28 PM EDT
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What I want to know is how the hell this thing out-suppresses the Specwar.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 9:50:49 PM EDT
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Wow, really a game changing offering. My favorite features:
- Weight - Suppression levels - Comes with 2 mounts - Brake is removable So how did they hack the suppression:weight formula? Ti baffles? I normally over research purchases like this, but I might just pull the trigger and buy one from SS tonight 
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Posted: 1/12/2015 9:54:27 PM EDT
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This is going to happen every year. New hotness is going to roll out just about the same time your Form 4 clears and you pick up your old hotness. I don't see a reason for anyone to be regretting Sakers or second guessing other purchases. Fast forward 9 months and we will be doing this again. We are one the Suppressor/iPhone release schedule. Or maybe I just want one and this is my way of coping. With the exception of surefire's first pistol can, as well as rugged and dead air debuting ETA: 41p looming on the horizon doesn't help |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:16:32 PM EDT
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Has it been established that this will or won't work with saker mounts & saker MAAD?
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:25:37 PM EDT
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I'll stick with the ULT, 1oz lighter, not much longer, easy mounting, and doesn't have the fugly looking brake. Plus I got it for $695
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll stick with the ULT, 1oz lighter, not much longer, easy mounting, and doesn't have the fugly looking brake. Plus I got it for $695 That brake actually serves a purpose....
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:39:31 PM EDT
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If I had to guess, Id say youll never see a big name Ti can that is rated for the short barrels and high pressure calibers the Saker is. I have no doubt that the Saker is far stronger than the Omega. I also have no doubt that I will never wear out an Omega. YMMV.
Also, it seems like the rear mount rig is just the ASR adapter from the Harvester Big Bore. With no notches machined into the back of the can to help torque MAAD mounts on, Im guessing that this can will never get the MAAD system. Still, its a nice can. Light, roughly the length of the Saker K, and Specwar sound levels. I want it.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:39:46 PM EDT
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Has it been established that this will or won't work with saker mounts & saker MAAD? This! I have been changing everything over to trifecta mounts preparing to get a Saker and the ASR will not work due to 10" barrel with 10" rail. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:42:55 PM EDT
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Interesting...
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:43:26 PM EDT
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This is going to happen every year. New hotness is going to roll out just about the same time your Form 4 clears and you pick up your old hotness. I don't see a reason for anyone to be regretting Sakers or second guessing other purchases. Fast forward 9 months and we will be doing this again. We are one the Suppressor/iPhone release schedule. Or maybe I just want one and this is my way of coping. I get what you're saying but the "muzzzle attachment" world is simple and so physically different than just phones/software. For 1, there's a fucking $200 government surcharge. 2, there's no secondary market, you buy, you own it for life, almost no one buys used cans and if they do the owners of said cans are getting pennies on the dollar. Hey, that's the way the cookie crumbles in NFA world. You buy what you buy. Sometimes its a bitch. I do have a bit of hypothesis on this one, SiCo is gonna get some heat from sour people that just got their Sakers and just outfitted their rifles with a ton of trifecta/brake mounts. Well, that'll be SiCo's problem to figure out. But it's plain to see. You CAN thread a tube however you want. SiCo consciously decided to thread the mount side of their brand new flagship can differently than their flagship less than a year ago. They'll get heat for that. Right or wrong,well, that's up to the buyers. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:45:17 PM EDT
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As someone who owns both Sakers, I will be highly pissed if they don't offer the option to use Trifecta mounts on the Omega. I would buy one of these right now from SilencerShop if they commit to making the Trifecta mount an option.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:53:29 PM EDT
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The end cap from the saker probably won't work because the omega diameter is 1.56 and saker is 1.50?
Love it but not the break on the end |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 11:00:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryBut it's plain to see. You CAN thread a tube however you want. SiCo consciously decided to thread the mount side of their brand new flagship can differently than their flagship less than a year ago. They'll get heat for that. Right or wrong,well, that's up to the buyers. This |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 11:17:35 PM EDT
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But it's plain to see. You CAN thread a tube however you want. SiCo consciously decided to thread the mount side of their brand new flagship can differently than their flagship less than a year ago. They'll get heat for that. Right or wrong,well, that's up to the buyers. This I'm pretty sure the trifecta mount requires more space up inside the tube than the asr mount does, the omega may just not have enough room for it behind the blast baffle |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 11:40:48 PM EDT
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Anyone have any thoughts as to what I should buy given the mount issue? My thread.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 11:47:03 PM EDT
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All true. But when you get in the game, you know that there will always be "the next best thing" out within 6-9 months.
The cost of admission is well known, $200, lifetime ownership, etc are there in plain view. The mounting choice seems to be a business decision: why make a product that directly competes with one of your other products. I personally think they would have sold more if they had used the MAAD system: you have a fresh crop of people who bought Sakers and their mounts. Those are the people who would be most inclined to buy an Omega. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I get what you're saying but the "muzzzle attachment" world is simple and so physically different than just phones/software. For 1, there's a fucking $200 government surcharge. 2, there's no secondary market, you buy, you own it for life, almost no one buys used cans and if they do the owners of said cans are getting pennies on the dollar. Hey, that's the way the cookie crumbles in NFA world. You buy what you buy. Sometimes its a bitch. I do have a bit of hypothesis on this one, SiCo is gonna get some heat from sour people that just got their Sakers and just outfitted their rifles with a ton of trifecta/brake mounts. Well, that'll be SiCo's problem to figure out. But it's plain to see. You CAN thread a tube however you want. SiCo consciously decided to thread the mount side of their brand new flagship can differently than their flagship less than a year ago. They'll get heat for that. Right or wrong,well, that's up to the buyers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is going to happen every year. New hotness is going to roll out just about the same time your Form 4 clears and you pick up your old hotness. I don't see a reason for anyone to be regretting Sakers or second guessing other purchases. Fast forward 9 months and we will be doing this again. We are one the Suppressor/iPhone release schedule. Or maybe I just want one and this is my way of coping. I get what you're saying but the "muzzzle attachment" world is simple and so physically different than just phones/software. For 1, there's a fucking $200 government surcharge. 2, there's no secondary market, you buy, you own it for life, almost no one buys used cans and if they do the owners of said cans are getting pennies on the dollar. Hey, that's the way the cookie crumbles in NFA world. You buy what you buy. Sometimes its a bitch. I do have a bit of hypothesis on this one, SiCo is gonna get some heat from sour people that just got their Sakers and just outfitted their rifles with a ton of trifecta/brake mounts. Well, that'll be SiCo's problem to figure out. But it's plain to see. You CAN thread a tube however you want. SiCo consciously decided to thread the mount side of their brand new flagship can differently than their flagship less than a year ago. They'll get heat for that. Right or wrong,well, that's up to the buyers. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 11:49:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:05:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm in a similar situation. I standardized my rifles on the AAC 51T mount and I am still satisfied. I still keep an eye on the market. The Saker is an option for me but I am not about to switch all my mounts to the specwar and not be able to mount my AAC suppressors. Seemed like the versatility of the Saker was the perfect way to poach customers. Possibly it would just have made the Omega too big and heavy to really differentiate it from the Saker. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:08:23 AM EDT
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I'm in a similar situation. I standardized my rifles on the AAC 51T mount and I am still satisfied. I still keep an eye on the market. The Saker is an option for me but I am not about to switch all my mounts to the specwar and not be able to mount my AAC suppressors. Seemed like the versatility of the Saker was the perfect way to poach customers. Possibly it would just have made the Omega too big and heavy to really differentiate it from the Saker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm in a similar situation. I standardized my rifles on the AAC 51T mount and I am still satisfied. I still keep an eye on the market. The Saker is an option for me but I am not about to switch all my mounts to the specwar and not be able to mount my AAC suppressors. Seemed like the versatility of the Saker was the perfect way to poach customers. Possibly it would just have made the Omega too big and heavy to really differentiate it from the Saker. I already have the saker, but now am at an impasse. Torn. Leaning saker 556k right now. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:11:23 AM EDT
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Straight from SICO:
Thanks for contacting us.
The Omega is rated down to 10" with the 300blk. I was hoping it was rated for 8" :/ |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:11:24 AM EDT
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I would have bought an Omega today had SiCo made a MAAD mount for it, too bad.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:13:00 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure the trifecta mount requires more space up inside the tube than the asr mount does, the omega may just not have enough room for it behind the blast baffle Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But it's plain to see. You CAN thread a tube however you want. SiCo consciously decided to thread the mount side of their brand new flagship can differently than their flagship less than a year ago. They'll get heat for that. Right or wrong,well, that's up to the buyers. This I'm pretty sure the trifecta mount requires more space up inside the tube than the asr mount does, the omega may just not have enough room for it behind the blast baffle Pffff... I've heard that BS excuse before, I always made it fit and their blast baffle was no match for me. My wife can testify to this. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:19:03 AM EDT
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Straight from SICO: I was hoping it was rated for 8" :/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
Straight from SICO: Thanks for contacting us.
The Omega is rated down to 10" with the 300blk. I was hoping it was rated for 8" :/ I bet that changes to 8" very soon, just like AAC changing the warranty on their suppressors. If it can handle 10" .223, it can handle 8" 300 BLK. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:21:07 AM EDT
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any info on 6.8spc min barrel length?
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:40:55 AM EDT
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I bet that changes to 8" very soon, just like AAC changing the warranty on their suppressors. If it can handle 10" .223, it can handle 8" 300 BLK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Straight from SICO: Thanks for contacting us.
The Omega is rated down to 10" with the 300blk. I was hoping it was rated for 8" :/ I bet that changes to 8" very soon, just like AAC changing the warranty on their suppressors. If it can handle 10" .223, it can handle 8" 300 BLK. Lets hope so... |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 12:50:08 AM EDT
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I bet that changes to 8" very soon, just like AAC changing the warranty on their suppressors. If it can handle 10" .223, it can handle 8" 300 BLK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Straight from SICO: Thanks for contacting us.
The Omega is rated down to 10" with the 300blk. I was hoping it was rated for 8" :/ I bet that changes to 8" very soon, just like AAC changing the warranty on their suppressors. If it can handle 10" .223, it can handle 8" 300 BLK. I hope so. That really hurts it if it can't handle 8" with subs at least. I'd prefer supers as well. I have standardized on 51t mounts and own the Saker556, Harvester, 762SDN6, and AAC 556-sd. I would like to use this in its thread on application with a 5.56 end cap option. It's a bit longer than a Mini-4 but only a half oz heavier. Possibly lighter altogether without the brake and set up for thread on. I like the idea of getting direct thread mounts for all of my SiCo cans. Bonus for the Omega that it comes with the direct thread and qd options, includng a muzzle device. It seems to be an extremely versatile jack of all trades can. Arguably the best in the industry in that regard. That's just my opinion, but I'm an admitted koolaid drinker. How are you guys storing all of your suppressor end caps, parts, etc? 
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:01:39 AM EDT
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I was hoping the brake could be removed. I have been considering a Specwar K as a smaller option to my Specwar762 but this will probably be the one instead.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:03:54 AM EDT
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I can see why they didn't use the MAAD mounts as they add several ounces to the overall weight of the Saker.
The Omega being 1.56" might keep it from fitting under rails so that has to be considered as well. Now I have to decide what I want to get my wife for her AR as the Saker 7.62 is a little on the heavy side. 
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:07:31 AM EDT
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As someone who owns both Sakers, I will be highly pissed if they don't offer the option to use Trifecta mounts on the Omega. I would buy one of these right now from SilencerShop if they commit to making the Trifecta mount an option. +1. I already have 4 different muzzle devices on rifles: Surefire SOCOM, SiCo MAAD, TBAC CB, and TBAC BA. I'm not looking to add any more mounts. I would love to have one of these for lightweight hunting rig, but won't be buying one unless a MAAD mount comes out so I can use my Saker mounts. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:44:36 AM EDT
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I for one am happy to see them use the ASR mounts, I think they are superior to the MAAD mounts.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 2:04:08 AM EDT
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Has it been established that this will or won't work with saker mounts & saker MAAD? Will not and as per cs there is no intention to make a maad mount |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 4:30:01 AM EDT
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+1. I already have 4 different muzzle devices on rifles: Surefire SOCOM, SiCo MAAD, TBAC CB, and TBAC BA. I'm not looking to add any more mounts. I would love to have one of these for lightweight hunting rig, but won't be buying one unless a MAAD mount comes out so I can use my Saker mounts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As someone who owns both Sakers, I will be highly pissed if they don't offer the option to use Trifecta mounts on the Omega. I would buy one of these right now from SilencerShop if they commit to making the Trifecta mount an option. +1. I already have 4 different muzzle devices on rifles: Surefire SOCOM, SiCo MAAD, TBAC CB, and TBAC BA. I'm not looking to add any more mounts. I would love to have one of these for lightweight hunting rig, but won't be buying one unless a MAAD mount comes out so I can use my Saker mounts. Call me crazy, but... 1) why would you have to add a mount to your collection of four existing types of muzzle devices? The Omega comes with a direct thread 'mount'. 2) why would you want to add the weight of a mount and the weight of the MAAD mount to a lightweight hunting rig? |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 6:46:32 AM EDT
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Call me crazy, but... 1) why would you have to add a mount to your collection of four existing types of muzzle devices? The Omega comes with a direct thread 'mount'. 2) why would you want to add the weight of a mount and the weight of the MAAD mount to a lightweight hunting rig? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As someone who owns both Sakers, I will be highly pissed if they don't offer the option to use Trifecta mounts on the Omega. I would buy one of these right now from SilencerShop if they commit to making the Trifecta mount an option. +1. I already have 4 different muzzle devices on rifles: Surefire SOCOM, SiCo MAAD, TBAC CB, and TBAC BA. I'm not looking to add any more mounts. I would love to have one of these for lightweight hunting rig, but won't be buying one unless a MAAD mount comes out so I can use my Saker mounts. Call me crazy, but... 1) why would you have to add a mount to your collection of four existing types of muzzle devices? The Omega comes with a direct thread 'mount'. 2) why would you want to add the weight of a mount and the weight of the MAAD mount to a lightweight hunting rig? I prefer to run brakes on all my hard use rifles not only for the baffle protection, but more for the added protection of the crown. |
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