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Link Posted: 8/24/2016 11:47:16 AM EDT
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Called yesterday. 2/17 still pending. She said it'll probably be a few weeks
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:34:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
FWIW, NFA tracker has some coming back from early March
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March 9 pending right here. Come on, come on!!!
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:59:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Seems form 1's are going through at a regular pace whereas form 4's are all but at a stand still for paper and a slow creep for efile. Of course mine was a mailed in f4.
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 2:50:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RCTreadaway:
Seems form 1's are going through at a regular pace whereas form 4's are all but at a stand still for paper and a slow creep for efile. Of course mine was a mailed in f4.
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They haven't accepted efiled form 4s for several years now
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 3:08:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:


They haven't accepted efiled form 4s for several years now
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Originally Posted By RCTreadaway:
Seems form 1's are going through at a regular pace whereas form 4's are all but at a stand still for paper and a slow creep for efile. Of course mine was a mailed in f4.


They haven't accepted efiled form 4s for several years now


Oh well. I'll chock that up to my lack of experience and the sheer amount of info on NFA tracker
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 10:30:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By donnieR32:


March 9 pending right here. Come on, come on!!!
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Originally Posted By donnieR32:
Originally Posted By rlltd42:
FWIW, NFA tracker has some coming back from early March


March 9 pending right here. Come on, come on!!!


Same. I'm dying to get it
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 3:00:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Called today for the first time. My F4 Osprey45 with a check cashed date of 2/4 was approved on 8/21.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 4:49:02 PM EDT
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No I'm not talking about myself....
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Originally Posted By RebarTX:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By confusiussaid:
Originally Posted By Mecha_Loopy:

I'm in a similar situation. This is the first time I've had a delay waiting for the stamp to arrive after approval.


5 month delay between check cashed and approved. Interesting. My batch of stamp checks were cashed first few days of May. That gives me a very false hope that approval will come in approximately 3 months from now

Probably 5-6 months given the increased volume between Feb and May

Edit: I should have known the delays after the fact would have gotten as nuts as they likely will be. Had this simple fact occurred to me I would have filed 2-3x as many stamps. Basically everything I could think of I may have wanted for the next couple years.


Your edit is the mindset that created this rediculous backlog.  
They were just getting caught up and then 41p was given a set date and people submitted crazy amounts of forms each.  It's so bad that people are getting form 1's back and don't even have the money to build what they got a stamp for.  So someone else that submitted one form in this mess has to wait all of these extra months
To get to enjoy theirs....




You mad you didn't plan ahead well enough?


No I'm not talking about myself....


You're mad for someone else, who didn't plan well enough?
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 6:34:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: arjohnson] [#9]
Called today to check status of my form 4 pending January 25, it's still pending
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 7:32:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rlltd42] [#10]
Looked back through my CC bill and I was charged April 14th on an individual form 4.   The wait sucks!
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 9:27:14 PM EDT
[#11]
3 SBR's (Trust e-file) submitted 3/5, Approved 8/24..... Just waiting on the cans now....
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 11:08:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Form 4 went pending 2/22, still pending as of today.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 11:02:24 AM EDT
[#13]
just called 3/8 still pending

This thing needs to get approved before I put together a 4th host
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 12:59:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CDDD:
Form 4 went pending 2/22, still pending as of today.
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Same here.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 2:46:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Form 4 pending 2/19, still pending as of today.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 3:20:06 PM EDT
[#16]
2/22 still pending as well. UGH.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 3:22:38 PM EDT
[#17]
2/17 pending
8/22 approved
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 3:24:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:


This sucks!



I mailed the Form 4 for my new Gemtech Tundra (I got a great price on it as a close out) on 2/29 and still nothing.





I mailed another Form 4 for a Surefire Ryder 22 on 4/8. I guess I'll be lucky to get that thing by Christmas.





Right now, I only have one suppressor on hand. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH!!!









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I got my Tundra on a close out too about 6 months ago, (actual purchase was almost a year ago now). I love it, you'll be really happy with it when it finally arrives. They had two, I wish I had just bought both of them

 
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 4:45:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigmoney327:


Called today for the first time. My F4 Osprey45 with a check cashed date of 2/4 was approved on 8/21.
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And I just got an email from my FFL saying the form arrived today. 210 days.



 
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 8:32:32 AM EDT
[#20]
Sandman S - Form 4 Individual

Mailed form 22MAR16
Check cashed 30MAR16
Approved 16AUG16
FFL received form 22AUG16

I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 9:04:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AMB808:
Sandman S - Form 4 Individual

Mailed form 22MAR16
Check cashed 30MAR16
Approved 16AUG16
FFL received form 22AUG16

I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.
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C'mon 31 March!! (form 4 individual)
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 12:53:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AMB808:
Sandman S - Form 4 Individual

Mailed form 22MAR16
Check cashed 30MAR16
Approved 16AUG16
FFL received form 22AUG16

I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.
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That's excellent!
This gives me hope, I'm still waiting for 3 stamps from early March.
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 1:38:12 PM EDT
[#23]
23 FEB submission for a can on a F4 Trust.

180+ days in and still nada.  Haven't called but I have no reason to think anything is amiss...  YET.  SOT's around here are receiving mid to late JAN submissions currently.

On a side note, I saw "her" yesterday while in picking up a different toy.  This lil' sweetie is going to look/work great on my 6.5 Creed...  
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 3:21:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
23 FEB submission for a can on a F4 Trust.

180+ days in and still nada.  Haven't called but I have no reason to think anything is amiss...  YET.  SOT's around here are receiving mid to late JAN submissions currently.

On a side note, I saw "her" yesterday while in picking up a different toy.  This lil' sweetie is going to look/work great on my 6.5 Creed...  
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Git back in line! I have a 2/18 submission that still hasn't gone anywhere, I don't think. Don't feel like calling and bothering them when the chances it's approved are slim.  Form 4 trust. From what I've seen on here, hopefully I'm only 2 weeks out from approval.
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 3:49:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Form 4 trust 2/23 still pending as of yesterday
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 6:06:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AMB808:
Sandman S - Form 4 Individual

Mailed form 22MAR16
Check cashed 30MAR16
Approved 16AUG16
FFL received form 22AUG16

I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.
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Gongratulations! Hopefully I will see my 15 March before end of Sept...
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 7:50:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Git back in line! I have a 2/18 submission that still hasn't gone anywhere, I don't think. Don't feel like calling and bothering them when the chances it's approved are slim.  Form 4 trust. From what I've seen on here, hopefully I'm only 2 weeks out from approval.
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:



Originally Posted By moose-hunter:

23 FEB submission for a can on a F4 Trust.



180+ days in and still nada.  Haven't called but I have no reason to think anything is amiss...  YET.  SOT's around here are receiving mid to late JAN submissions currently.



On a side note, I saw "her" yesterday while in picking up a different toy.  This lil' sweetie is going to look/work great on my 6.5 Creed...  




Git back in line! I have a 2/18 submission that still hasn't gone anywhere, I don't think. Don't feel like calling and bothering them when the chances it's approved are slim.  Form 4 trust. From what I've seen on here, hopefully I'm only 2 weeks out from approval.
Right behind me, joonya! 2/17 here.
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 7:59:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By angrysquirrel:
Gongratulations! Hopefully I will see my 15 March before end of Sept...

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Originally Posted By angrysquirrel:



Originally Posted By AMB808:

Sandman S - Form 4 Individual



Mailed form 22MAR16

Check cashed 30MAR16

Approved 16AUG16

FFL received form 22AUG16



I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.




Gongratulations! Hopefully I will see my 15 March before end of Sept...

If it was individual, maybe. Maybe. If trust, I wouldn't count on it.
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 11:05:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bushylover:
If it was individual, maybe. Maybe. If trust, I wouldn't count on it.
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Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Originally Posted By angrysquirrel:
Originally Posted By AMB808:
Sandman S - Form 4 Individual

Mailed form 22MAR16
Check cashed 30MAR16
Approved 16AUG16
FFL received form 22AUG16

I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.


Gongratulations! Hopefully I will see my 15 March before end of Sept...
If it was individual, maybe. Maybe. If trust, I wouldn't count on it.

Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 12:17:31 AM EDT
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Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?
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Originally Posted By ar15eric:



Originally Posted By Bushylover:


Originally Posted By angrysquirrel:


Originally Posted By AMB808:

Sandman S - Form 4 Individual



Mailed form 22MAR16

Check cashed 30MAR16

Approved 16AUG16

FFL received form 22AUG16



I picked it up Friday and will mount it today.   5 months isn't shabby nowadays.




Gongratulations! Hopefully I will see my 15 March before end of Sept...

If it was individual, maybe. Maybe. If trust, I wouldn't count on it.


Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?
Just seems they have been.
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 2:04:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/28/2016 7:24:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

Because nobody on their end has to go through the trust documentation.
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By ar15eric:
Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?

Because nobody on their end has to go through the trust documentation.


But a year ago and earlier individuals took much longer than trusts....
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 7:52:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:


But a year ago and earlier individuals took much longer than trusts....
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Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By ar15eric:
Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?

Because nobody on their end has to go through the trust documentation.


But a year ago and earlier individuals took much longer than trusts....


I thought they reallocated resources
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 7:59:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:


I thought they reallocated resources
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By ar15eric:
Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?

Because nobody on their end has to go through the trust documentation.


But a year ago and earlier individuals took much longer than trusts....


I thought they reallocated resources


Pure speculation here, but I suspect they are giving more scrutiny to closely examining each trust than they used to.  Makes sense as they basically declared war on trusts with 41F.
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 8:30:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:


I thought they reallocated resources
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By ar15eric:
Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?

Because nobody on their end has to go through the trust documentation.


But a year ago and earlier individuals took much longer than trusts....


I thought they reallocated resources


I talked to Terry Whittington Jr. who is a ATF examiner.  He said they get 10000 forms a day (1,3,4,5,10, etc) and there are forms stacked everywhere.  I was amazed that I was approved in 5 months and was planning on a 8-9 month wait.  I still have a YHM direct thread 5.56 in the pipeline from May 5th.  I'm betting that won't be 5 months.

Just the avalanche of forms they are getting daily makes me wonder how long it will be to get a July purchase.  I would like to get a suppressor for my Rossi 92 .357 magnum and by the time I find one, form 3 it, form 4 it, it will probably be next year X-mas.  

Carrie Fishal was my examiner.  I see on NFA Tracker some other guy from ND purchased March 8th Form 1 Trust and got approved Aug 25th.
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 8:32:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:


Pure speculation here, but I suspect they are giving more scrutiny to closely examining each trust than they used to.  Makes sense as they basically declared war on trusts with 41F.
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By ar15eric:
Why would an individual F4 come back sooner than a trust F4?

Because nobody on their end has to go through the trust documentation.


But a year ago and earlier individuals took much longer than trusts....


I thought they reallocated resources


Pure speculation here, but I suspect they are giving more scrutiny to closely examining each trust than they used to.  Makes sense as they basically declared war on trusts with 41F.

I don't think that is really the case, I was told that they were focusing on F3's to help get rid of the backlog, then moving forward with F4's. The sheer number of F4's that went in during July alone was staggering.. either way, its going to be a long wait for some people..

Link Posted: 8/29/2016 12:49:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Flagflyfish:
I don't think that is really the case, I was told that they were focusing on F3's to help get rid of the backlog, then moving forward with F4's. The sheer number of F4's that went in during July alone was staggering.. either way, its going to be a long wait for some people..

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I wish they would stop the manual approval of every form 3 and simply turn it into a notification via e-forms. It's not like an SOT with an active license is going to get denied.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 1:09:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Cartel-] [#38]
Form 4 Trust

SilencerCo Osprey 45 FDE
Purchased - 1/22
Pending - 2/12
Approved - 8/17
Tax Stamp Mailed - 8/29
Tax Stamp Received - 9/1

Surefire Ryder 22-A
Purchased - 3/6
Pending - 3/18
Approved - 10/18
Tax Stamp Mailed - 10/20
Tax Stamp Received - 10/24

Dead Air Armament Mask 22
Purchased - 3/24
Pending - 3/28
Approved - 11/6
Tax Stamp Mailed - 11/8
Tax Stamp Received - 11/14

AAC Ti-Rant 9
Purchased - 4/11
Pending - 4/20
Approved - 12/5
Tax Stamp Mailed -
Tax Stamp Received -


SilencerCo Osprey 45
Purchased - 7/8
Pending - 7/18
Approved -
Tax Stamp Mailed -
Tax Stamp Received -

Dead Air Armament Wolverine PBS-1
Purchased - 8/28
Pending -
Approved -
Tax Stamp Mailed -
Tax Stamp Received -
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:14:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chucky888] [#39]
To those who finally the SOT Stamp on Form 4 :

Does ATF mail the Stamp to your home/Trust address?
Or you got the Stamp together with your Suppressor?
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:19:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chucky888:
To those who final the SOT Stamp on Form 4 :

Does ATF mail the Stamp to your home/Thrust address?
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Goes to the dealer. Get the can and the stamp together
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:27:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:

Goes to the dealer. Get the can and the stamp together
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By chucky888:
To those who final the SOT Stamp on Form 4 :

Does ATF mail the Stamp to your home/Thrust address?
Or you got the Stamp together with your Suppressor?

Goes to the dealer. Get the can and the stamp together


Thanks, man. (thanks for not pointing out all the typo...)
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 6:43:47 PM EDT
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Are the individual going faster than the trust transfers?



I called in today on a Form 4 that I sent at the end of February. They said they received it on 3/4 and that it was still pending.




Now I see that people who sent in Form 4's after mine got approved quicker and are ready to pick up their stuff!












Link Posted: 8/29/2016 7:09:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Are the individual going faster than the trust transfers?

I called in today on a Form 4 that I sent at the end of February. They said they received it on 3/4 and that it was still pending.


Now I see that people who sent in Form 4's after mine got approved quicker and are ready to pick up their stuff!



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It seems to be that way. My form 4 trust submission (pending 02/12/16) is still pending - and there have been reports of F4 individuals after that date being approved already.

I expect mine should come through this next month sometime if the pattern stays as it has been. At least I hope I'll have it next month.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:42:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cartel-:
Form 4 Trust

SilencerCo Osprey 45 FDE
Purchased - 1/22
Pending - 2/12
Approved - 8/17
Received -

Surefire Ryder 22-A
Purchased - 3/6
Pending - 3/18
Approved -
Received -

Dead Air Armament Mask 22
Purchased - 3/24
Pending - 3/28
Approved
Received -

AAC Ti-Rant 9
Purchased - 4/11
Pending - 4/20
Approved -
Received -

SilencerCo Osprey 45
Purchased - 7/8
Pending - 7/18
Approved -
Received -

Dead Air Armament Wolverine PBS-1
Purchased - 8/28
Pending -
Approved -
Received -
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How did you go pending so fast? I have a mid March form not go pending until July.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 9:33:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ar15eric:

I wish they would stop the manual approval of every form 3 and simply turn it into a notification via e-forms. It's not like an SOT with an active license is going to get denied.
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Originally Posted By Flagflyfish:
I don't think that is really the case, I was told that they were focusing on F3's to help get rid of the backlog, then moving forward with F4's. The sheer number of F4's that went in during July alone was staggering.. either way, its going to be a long wait for some people..


I wish they would stop the manual approval of every form 3 and simply turn it into a notification via e-forms. It's not like an SOT with an active license is going to get denied.

I agree it would speed up the process, and your logic is sound.......unfortunately speed and logic do not usually exist within the govt, unless it's cashing you tax check...that is lightning fast!
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 11:19:29 AM EDT
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According to NFA tracker the first form 4 (individual) for a check cashed in April has returned.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 12:45:28 PM EDT
[#47]

Form 4 Trust pending since March 9
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Form 4 Trust pending since March 9
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Me too, March 2nd and this is a rare SIG 556 QD Ti.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:48:09 PM EDT
[#49]
Mine have been pending since mid February so get back in line
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Mine have been pending since mid February so get back in line
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Yeah mine too.
I'm trying to resist calling again but damn it's September already.
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