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Posted: 3/28/2017 3:34:15 PM EDT
How would you feel about a PS90 truck gun? They are very light, compact, accurate and hold 50 rounds plus extra ammo is very light. The ammo is very easy to find around here plus it would be easy to keep 500 or so rounds on hand.
I don't have many guns and really most all my stuff is NFA so I don't want to keep it in my truck anyways, plus I'm tired of AR/AKs and want something different. Would you feel confident with a PS90 if something bad went down? Really looking for an excuse to buy one but I want an effective firearm should the need arise, which I seriously doubt I'll ever need one but what the hell! 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 3:47:15 PM EDT
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It'll do the job. AR57 on an SBRd lower is probably less value if stolen.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 3:54:36 PM EDT
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They are handy and have a thin profile while loaded compared to something like an AR (check your laws).
I wouldn't personally own one unless it was an SBR though... |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 3:55:40 PM EDT
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SBRed, yes.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 4:01:41 PM EDT
[#4]
expensive gun to get stolen
I keep a beater AR pistol in mine. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 12:33:33 AM EDT
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Is a "Truck Gun", allowed at a BBQ? And if so, does it become a "BBQ Gun"? You guys are hysterical!
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Posted: 3/29/2017 12:56:28 AM EDT
[#6]
Not a fan of the bullet.
I'd stick to the 5.56 or 7.62x39. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 1:50:42 AM EDT
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How would you feel about a PS90 truck gun? They are very light, compact, accurate and hold 50 rounds plus extra ammo is very light. The ammo is very easy to find around here plus it would be easy to keep 500 or so rounds on hand. They are definitely light and compact (especially SBR'd), but performance is somewhat anemic. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to get shot with one, but I'd definitely want something with a little more terminal performance. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 7:21:51 AM EDT
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They are definitely light and compact (especially SBR'd), but performance is somewhat anemic. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to get shot with one, but I'd definitely want something with a little more terminal performance. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 8:43:36 AM EDT
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From the non-NFA 16" barrel the terminal ballistics improve compared to an SBR. 5.7x28 is not impressive on paper but has done some real World damage (sad "stats" that I will not post
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It's not that 5.7x28 performance is horrible, it's that other more widely available, proven and cheaper options are better. For a compact "truck gun" I personally would go with an AR pistol in 5.56 loaded with a round designed for shorter barrels with a 20 round mag in the gun and a 40 round PMAG as a spare. As always, YMMV. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 12:40:19 PM EDT
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expensive gun to get stolen I keep a beater AR pistol in mine. I keep a beater AR in my truck with about 300rds My car has a Yugo underfolder AK47 Always have my glock117 on me |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 12:48:03 PM EDT
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That's what I can't get past. I'll probably just stick with an AR or something. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 12:59:47 PM EDT
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If you don't put a locker in your truck the gun should be small enough to put in a bag you can take with you when you park.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 1:14:04 PM EDT
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Not bad if you can live with the limitation of the round. I love mine in SBR format and it's an ideal weapon for fighting from inside a vehicle (downward ejection, no mag hanging down to catch on things, etc).
Prices have come down from when they first were imported, but it is not a gun I would leave in the car. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 1:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't put a locker in your truck the gun should be small enough to put in a bag you can take with you when you park.  Or don't live in a nanny state where locking your car doors is good enough.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 3:30:28 PM EDT
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Or don't live in a nanny state where locking your car doors is good enough. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:07:10 PM EDT
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If I advised you to keep other valuable property like your laptop secure would you also complain?
Plus my car sleeps in a locked workshop. But yes, in areas prone to smash and grabs or unsecured parking, it's not a great idea, but you gotta do what you gotta do if you want to be armed in your vehicle but you can't carry it with you everywhere you go. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:09:47 PM EDT
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My laptop was more expensive than my trunk gun, and I've never really thought about needing my laptop ASAP
Plus my car sleeps in a locked workshop. But yes, in areas prone to smash and grabs or unsecured parking, it's not a great idea, but you gotta do what you gotta do if you want to be armed in your vehicle but you can't carry it with you everywhere you go. I'd hate for a gun I left unsecured out of laziness to be used in a crime. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:13:39 PM EDT
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That's fine. I'd hate for a gun I left unsecured out of laziness to be used in a crime. On that note though, all the more reason not to have gun-related stickers on your vehicle. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:23:39 PM EDT
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True, but criminals will get guns one way or another. Around here it's cheap handguns like HiPoints with the numbers scratched off 10:1 to anything else. On that note though, all the more reason not to have gun-related stickers on your vehicle. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:37:58 PM EDT
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Personally, I am not a fan of the 5.7x28 round, and its ballistic performance with civilian ammo.
Have you considered a 9MM Carbine ? ... much more hefty bullet if it was needed against a harder target. And you do get a slight velocity boost from a longer barrel. Even a Keltec fold up "SUB 2000" would be small and relatively "inexpensive" enough to leave in a trunk.... those come in 9MM and .40 S&W. And are made to accept a variety of mags... Glock, Sig 226, Beretta 92/96, and S&W M&P They aren't a pretty gun.. ( frankly functionally ugly ) but.... maybe something like it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:51:49 PM EDT
[#21]
 Chicago Rambo Fn p90 gen 1 - Army guns |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 5:58:05 PM EDT
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Or don't live in a nanny state where locking your car doors is good enough. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 7:08:22 PM EDT
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I think MPA makes a 5.7 type Mac 10. Might be cheap way to get in the caliber.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 9:37:18 PM EDT
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It's not that I'm wanting something in 5.7x28, I'm just thinking the PS90 specifically would be a sweet little PDW if I found myself in need of something more than my G19. My truck is garage kept and I work in a small little town but not far from some areas which are prone to drug activity. I drive a very plain, common looking SUV with no stickers at all. Plus I doubt I would ever find myself in a situation where I would need a little carbine. I like the idea of 50 rounds on tap in a light recoiling, quick little carbine but if the performance isn't there, then it isn't there. I do have a Scorpion EVO but it is SBR'd along with my other AR15s so I dont really want to leave them in my vehicle. I do have a Zenith Z5-P with a SB tactical folding brace that would fit in a backpack real easy but I was thinking of selling it, maybe I'll just hang on to it.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 9:56:05 PM EDT
[#25]
I think it's a perfect truck gun. The point of a PDW is not to bring it to a fight, but to get out of a fight with it, and 50 rounds out of a weapon designed to be used with one hand easily is a good deterrent as you hit the gas. With the A-max bullets giving some expansion it should be more than enough for defensive purposes.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:36:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Problem with a PDW is poor penetration through barriers
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Posted: 3/29/2017 11:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's fine.
I'd hate for a gun I left unsecured out of laziness to be used in a crime. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 11:50:20 PM EDT
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Spending money to outfit all your vehicles w/ a long gun locker may make financial sense to some folk, but not the majority of us. That's hardly laziness. ALL security is theater. You should know that.
How many vehicles do you roll heavy in? |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:02:06 AM EDT
[#29]
I've seen the 5.7 round punch through body armor. Local pd was retiring their old vests (about 5 years old) rounds went through both sides... color me impressed.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:13:19 AM EDT
[#30]
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How would you feel about a PS90 truck gun? They are very light, compact, accurate and hold 50 rounds plus extra ammo is very light. The ammo is very easy to find around here plus it would be easy to keep 500 or so rounds on hand. I don't have many guns and really most all my stuff is NFA so I don't want to keep it in my truck anyways, plus I'm tired of AR/AKs and want something different. Would you feel confident with a PS90 if something bad went down? Really looking for an excuse to buy one but I want an effective firearm should the need arise, which I seriously doubt I'll ever need one but what the hell! |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:14:57 AM EDT
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How many vehicles do you roll heavy in? With ARs down to $400, why wouldn't you carry a rifle in your vehicle? And who's got a lockable rifle case worth a crap for a vehicle that's less than the rifle? ARs are now so cheap that I'm giving receivers away and gifting a complete rifle soon. If someone breaks into my house or car and steals 'em I'll file a police report, collect the insurance, and go buy more. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:17:39 AM EDT
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I've seen the 5.7 round punch through body armor. Local pd was retiring their old vests (about 5 years old) rounds went through both sides... color me impressed. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:27:51 AM EDT
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I've seen 9x19 go through one and a car door. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:54:04 AM EDT
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I carry a rifle just about everywhere I go. W/ the teens, we're @ 4 vehicles. I've been driving my van since '05, and have had a single attempted break in, in a crappy motel parking lot in Austin. Including trips to DC and Arizona. With ARs down to $400, why wouldn't you carry a rifle in your vehicle? And who's got a lockable rifle case worth a crap for a vehicle that's less than the rifle? ARs are now so cheap that I'm giving receivers away and gifting a complete rifle soon. If someone breaks into my house or car and steals 'em I'll file a police report, collect the insurance, and go buy more. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:17:59 AM EDT
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Forgive me for. It wanting my guns to fall into criminal hands. Logically, by his reasoning we shouldn't have safes at home either. I'll continue to keep my vehicle long guns secured. And that extra locker space is nice when I want to toss my expensive O/U in as well when I stop for lunch or dinner on the way home. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 10:21:44 AM EDT
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Forgive me for. It wanting my guns to fall into criminal hands. You want to lock your stuff up, fine. For a blanket statement that locking your car doors is insufficient, no. That's BS. |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 1:31:56 AM EDT
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RRA PPS pistol, add a side folding arm brace. Call it good.
Or Sig MCX pistol, or MPX setup with side folding brace. |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 11:17:13 AM EDT
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Would you feel confident with a PS90 if something bad went down? not as confident if i had a AR. A pistol ar with brace is what keep, handles as a sbr, shoots like a rifle, low cost, and transported as a pistol |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:56:21 PM EDT
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I figure the ideal trunk gun is an ENDO stock adapter with a sig brace for someone who carries a glock 17. That way you throw the adapter and a few 33rd mags in the car and carry your normal pistol. There would be no risk for a stolen firearm, less investment than a dedicated secondary gun, and it doesn't get much more compact.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 5:53:09 PM EDT
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How would you feel about a PS90 truck gun? They are very light, compact, accurate and hold 50 rounds plus extra ammo is very light. The ammo is very easy to find around here plus it would be easy to keep 500 or so rounds on hand. I don't have many guns and really most all my stuff is NFA so I don't want to keep it in my truck anyways, plus I'm tired of AR/AKs and want something different. Would you feel confident with a PS90 if something bad went down? Really looking for an excuse to buy one but I want an effective firearm should the need arise, which I seriously doubt I'll ever need one but what the hell! In fact, with the ridiculous sale going on for it right now I'm pondering doing exactly that. |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 12:06:31 AM EDT
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expensive gun to get stolen I keep a beater AR pistol in mine. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 3:54:43 PM EDT
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don't fail to take into account the possibility you are in a car accident and are either incapacitated or in all the excitement, fail to retrieve your firearm. Once its towed to a yard, anything valuable will be gone.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:32:53 PM EDT
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don't fail to take into account the possibility you are in a car accident and are either incapacitated or in all the excitement, fail to retrieve your firearm. Once its towed to a yard, anything valuable will be gone.  just so he knows I'm serious when I say: "Dude, don't be fuckin' with my car." 
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:04:53 PM EDT
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don't fail to take into account the possibility you are in a car accident and are either incapacitated or in all the excitement, fail to retrieve your firearm. Once its towed to a yard, anything valuable will be gone. My guns are insured. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:13:50 AM EDT
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So when you're home you should lock up your HD guns at night since your home could burn down and you'd have to run with no time to save your guns? My guns are insured. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 10:15:21 AM EDT
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Well my HD gun is locked up due to kids in the house, but my input was regarding on how much value you want to have into your truck gun. For me a PS90 seems awfully expensive to leave unsecured. My apocalypse fantasies usually start from home. A Glock, 30-30 or a 12 GA is all the truck gun I need to get out of an issue. If you're going to plan for an improbable event, why restrict yourself based on the chances of another improbable event? The PS90 doesn't fit in my center console. The Scorpion SBR does. That's my deciding factor. Both vehicles have identical PSA CHF-based M4s in them. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:37:17 PM EDT
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It's handy enough to fire from inside the vehicle.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:33:04 PM EDT
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It's not that I'm wanting something in 5.7x28, I'm just thinking the PS90 specifically would be a sweet little PDW if I found myself in need of something more than my G19. My truck is garage kept and I work in a small little town but not far from some areas which are prone to drug activity. I drive a very plain, common looking SUV with no stickers at all. Plus I doubt I would ever find myself in a situation where I would need a little carbine. I like the idea of 50 rounds on tap in a light recoiling, quick little carbine but if the performance isn't there, then it isn't there. I do have a Scorpion EVO but it is SBR'd along with my other AR15s so I dont really want to leave them in my vehicle. I do have a Zenith Z5-P with a SB tactical folding brace that would fit in a backpack real easy but I was thinking of selling it, maybe I'll just hang on to it. For those saying they don't like the 5.7, it's not a rifle round. It was never intended to replace a rifle round. You seem to get the idea, it's like something above a glock 19 in terms of shootability and capacity. |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 10:47:16 PM EDT
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How about instead of a truck gun a few extra mags for your CC pistol? If you CC a Glock 26, tote 3 extra 33rd mags. Leaves you without a truck gun to steal (assuming you can take your CC with you most places).
That, or an draco AK pistol in 7.62x39 with brace. |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 11:54:41 PM EDT
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