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Posted: 11/15/2016 10:33:37 AM EDT
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Is that the Mississippi ACR adapter? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Waiting on the KDG ACR stock and adapter to arrive to see which set-up I prefer. Please post pics after you mount it. The KDG stock is a bit stiff, but it also seems to be of exceptional quality. Ergonomically I like more than the OEM telescopic stock. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/XTUbzU.jpg Is that the Mississippi ACR adapter? Yessir. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 11:46:07 AM EDT
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I have the other adapter on mine, how is the lockup with the Mississippi? How hard is it to take down since they don't use the rear head? I'm thinking of getting rid of mine, because I want to dump the rear head attachment. Yessir. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Waiting on the KDG ACR stock and adapter to arrive to see which set-up I prefer. Please post pics after you mount it. The KDG stock is a bit stiff, but it also seems to be of exceptional quality. Ergonomically I like more than the OEM telescopic stock. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/XTUbzU.jpg Is that the Mississippi ACR adapter? I have the other adapter on mine, how is the lockup with the Mississippi? How hard is it to take down since they don't use the rear head? I'm thinking of getting rid of mine, because I want to dump the rear head attachment. Yessir. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 12:28:55 PM EDT
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How is the comb height on the ACR stock with the buis?
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Posted: 11/15/2016 1:35:41 PM EDT
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How is the comb height on the ACR stock with the buis? The ACR stock has an adjustable comb. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 4:16:26 PM EDT
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Any pics of thmy CZ non telescoping stock installed?
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Posted: 11/15/2016 7:40:13 PM EDT
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Any pics of thmy CZ non telescoping stock installed? Sorry, this is the best I can do right now without just grabbing a Google pic. 
So here's a Google pic. 
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Posted: 11/16/2016 5:12:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The KDG stock is a bit stiff, but it also seems to be of exceptional quality. Ergonomically I like more than the OEM telescopic stock. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/XTUbzU.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Waiting on the KDG ACR stock and adapter to arrive to see which set-up I prefer. Please post pics after you mount it. The KDG stock is a bit stiff, but it also seems to be of exceptional quality. Ergonomically I like more than the OEM telescopic stock. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/XTUbzU.jpg Is it just me, or is this reminiscent of a Sturmgewehr? |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:32:39 AM EDT
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I have the other adapter on mine, how is the lockup with the Mississippi? How hard is it to take down since they don't use the rear head? I'm thinking of getting rid of mine, because I want to dump the rear head attachment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have the other adapter on mine, how is the lockup with the Mississippi? How hard is it to take down since they don't use the rear head? I'm thinking of getting rid of mine, because I want to dump the rear head attachment. Quoted:
How is the comb height on the ACR stock with the buis? The lock-up is mostly solid when deployed with just a very tiny hint of play when locked in place, but you'd you have to really be nitpicking to notice it and it's not even a factor when you shoulder it. Removing the roll pin from the KDG ACR wasn't extremely difficult given the right tools, but you have to be extra careful when you punch it back in during the install as you could easily mar the finish on the adapter or lose the hinge cup spring if you're not paying attention. Having tried the factory Bren telescopic stock, I will say that the spring retention on that stock when folded down is much better. The KDG + Mississippi combo just sort of flops over without any retention holding it in place at all. That's the only real gripe I have about the whole thing. The comb/cheek rest is very stiff on the KDG ACR and mine requires a bit of muscle to deploy it. I just leave the cheek rest in the up position for now rather than wrestle with it. For me the comb height allows really good head placement with the standard height BUIS (much better than the low profile irons that came with it) giving you more of a "heads-up" profile when aiming. The telescopic adjustment is a bit tight too, but like the comb it's really a non-issue for me. Honestly, I like the fact that everything on the KDG ACR locks up nice and tight, and overall I'm very satisfied with the set-up. |
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Posted: 11/17/2016 12:15:35 PM EDT
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Sorry, this is the best I can do right now without just grabbing a Google pic.
https://s13.postimg.org/kndz7jcqf/20161115_182215.jpg So here's a Google pic. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DiVr0vALWeA/U2AIQ8patEI/AAAAAAAABEg/QRmduoKhluY/w640-h400-p-k/CZ-805%2BBREN.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any pics of thmy CZ non telescoping stock installed? Sorry, this is the best I can do right now without just grabbing a Google pic.
https://s13.postimg.org/kndz7jcqf/20161115_182215.jpg So here's a Google pic. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DiVr0vALWeA/U2AIQ8patEI/AAAAAAAABEg/QRmduoKhluY/w640-h400-p-k/CZ-805%2BBREN.jpg Where can we buy/get parts kit like this? |
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Posted: 11/20/2016 9:24:09 PM EDT
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What was the design rationale for attaching the lower rail to the barrel?
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Posted: 11/21/2016 11:28:16 AM EDT
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Where can I source the parts to make my Sig braced 805 fold?
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Posted: 11/21/2016 3:45:04 PM EDT
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What was the design rationale for attaching the lower rail to the barrel? Hand warmer. 
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Posted: 11/21/2016 5:01:16 PM EDT
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What was the design rationale for attaching the lower rail to the barrel? Hand warmer. Yeah, that's one of the few design details about the rifle I don't get. |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 6:14:21 PM EDT
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Probably stole the idea wholesale from the SCAR since it is laid out the same.
"The Belgians did it, so it must be a good idea for reasons!" |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 6:19:15 PM EDT
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Probably stole the idea wholesale from the SCAR since it is laid out the same. "The Belgians did it, so it must be a good idea for reasons!" Negative. Both rifles were being designed at the same time. |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 9:29:36 PM EDT
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And the BREN 2, AKA BREN 806 is now going to be listed in the CZ-USA catalog...for LEO only.
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Posted: 11/21/2016 9:33:15 PM EDT
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And the BREN 2, AKA BREN 806 is now going to be listed in the CZ-USA catalog...for LEO only. Give it a year or two. They will sell them to the unwashed masses eventually. |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 10:44:42 PM EDT
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And the BREN 2, AKA BREN 806 is now going to be listed in the CZ-USA catalog...for LEO only. Boooooooooooooooo |
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Posted: 11/22/2016 10:30:37 AM EDT
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And the BREN 2, AKA BREN 806 is now going to be listed in the CZ-USA catalog...for LEO only. Officially Bren 2. No longer using the 806 designation apparently. Will be available in 8" (207mm), 11" (280mm) and 14" (357mm) variants. I've detailed all the differences in previous posts, so I won't rehash them here, but of course it utilizes a smaller, lighter upper with a shorter piston system, and the removable mag well insert which brings with it some interesting potential for different chamberings. Also, the bolt catch/release mechanism inside the trigger guard will be interesting. Can't wait for it to be an importable semi-auto! 
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Posted: 11/22/2016 12:11:28 PM EDT
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Here is a side by side comparison, images are as close to scale as I can get them. Both rifles are the 14" variant.
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Posted: 11/23/2016 12:00:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2016 1:01:49 AM EDT
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Got bored tonight with a milling machine and made a side folding pistol brace for it. Good times.
It's like the poor man's scar 16. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk |
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Posted: 11/24/2016 5:10:27 PM EDT
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If anyone is interested in the "original" non-telesoping stock, CZ USA now has them listed in the store for $130. Wish I waited, I paid $200 for one from Czech Republic , cool to see that they are available though.
Link to CZ Store http://shop.cz-usa.com/images/items/FullSize/3702340003.png I like the looks of it but how do you deal with the comb height? Or is it just more for the retro look? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:27:57 PM EDT
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Some good Bren 2 porn here. Marketing goop, but some nice action shots of the Bren 2...
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Posted: 11/27/2016 3:22:00 PM EDT
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Some good Bren 2 porn here. Marketing goop, but some nice action shots of the Bren 2...  https://youtu.be/HwSmZqXO868I was sold on it when I saw this video:
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Posted: 11/27/2016 5:37:56 PM EDT
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I like the looks of it but how do you deal with the comb height? Or is it just more for the retro look? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If anyone is interested in the "original" non-telesoping stock, CZ USA now has them listed in the store for $130. Wish I waited, I paid $200 for one from Czech Republic , cool to see that they are available though.
Link to CZ Store http://shop.cz-usa.com/images/items/FullSize/3702340003.png I like the looks of it but how do you deal with the comb height? Or is it just more for the retro look? Yes, for me, I am taking my carbine and trying to replicate the 805A1 as best I can. (As pictured, with old mag system, fixed stock, 14" barrel, etc.) I have the receiver off to get Cerakote and am awaiting my SBR stamp. As soon as those are back, I can assemble it. Once finished, I plan to get a pistol and mimic the 805A2 (telescoping stock, 11" barrel, STANAG mags, etc.). The non-telescoping stock probably isn't great as far as ergonomics, it's just a "retro" thing for me. 805A1: 
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Posted: 11/27/2016 5:57:20 PM EDT
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The Bren looks badass and is a damn good shooter. But it's too heavy imo and that reciprocating charging handle is in a bad spot. The 806 should fix those issues if it ever makes it here and then it'll be an AR killer to me.
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Posted: 11/28/2016 2:14:21 AM EDT
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Some good Bren 2 porn here. Marketing goop, but some nice action shots of the Bren 2... https://youtu.be/HwSmZqXO868I really like the looks of that flash hider. Kinda reminiscent of a Seekins device. Looking forward to the Bren 2s becoming available. But I would be happy with an original model. I have only been lusting after one for close to a decade. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 8:37:54 PM EDT
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+ side folding pistol brace
Do want. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 10:32:42 PM EDT
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I take an 8" Bren 2 when they're available.
They mentioned 7.62 in the video. Looks like it's 7.62x39. 7.62x39 story |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 5:43:02 PM EDT
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Does anybody know if the 16" barrel assemblies can be purchased anywhere?
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Posted: 12/7/2016 7:20:20 PM EDT
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Does anybody know if the 16" barrel assemblies can be purchased anywhere? You might can find someone with a 16" that has SBR'ed there's and wants to trade. |
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Posted: 12/7/2016 10:21:46 PM EDT
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For those that care, CZ-USA has 15% off in their web store until 12/18 with the "save15" coupon. I may have ordered parts for a Bren I don't even own yet.
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Posted: 12/8/2016 8:01:00 PM EDT
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I e-mailed CZ USA about BREN 2 availability and here was what I was told:
"The Bren 2 for the US civilian market is years out due to the Czech military having contract precedence from our manufacturer. From there, civilian variant production will begin and eventually include the US market. We have no information regarding specifications, ETA, production numbers, or pricing at this time. Thanks, Dereck Miller Sales Assistant 800-955-4486 x 334" |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 8:02:14 PM EDT
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"...years out..."
In other words I have no idea, but please keep buying the 805 so we're not stuck with the old stock. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:30:38 PM EDT
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I e-mailed CZ USA about BREN 2 availability and here was what I was told: "The Bren 2 for the US civilian market is years out due to the Czech military having contract precedence from our manufacturer. From there, civilian variant production will begin and eventually include the US market. We have no information regarding specifications, ETA, production numbers, or pricing at this time. Thanks, Dereck Miller Sales Assistant 800-955-4486 x 334" I got a message from a buddy yesterday who got a similar response from CZ. The existence of the Bren 2 does not suddenly make the Bren 805 a bad gun. I'll be running the piss out of mine and will pick up the Bren 2 whenever CZ decides contractual requirements are filled and make them available for private purchase. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 2:48:10 PM EDT
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For those that care, CZ-USA has 15% off in their web store until 12/18 with the "save15" coupon. I may have ordered parts for a Bren I don't even own yet. What parts? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 3:42:27 PM EDT
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For those that care, CZ-USA has 15% off in their web store until 12/18 with the "save15" coupon. I may have ordered parts for a Bren I don't even own yet. Yep typical insane gun owner. Done it myself more than once. Still have some of those things lying around that never got matched up to the gun LOL. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 3:50:17 PM EDT
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Yep typical insane gun owner. Done it myself more than once. Still have some of those things lying around that never got matched up to the gun LOL. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those that care, CZ-USA has 15% off in their web store until 12/18 with the "save15" coupon. I may have ordered parts for a Bren I don't even own yet. Yep typical insane gun owner. Done it myself more than once. Still have some of those things lying around that never got matched up to the gun LOL. Same here. I would have picked up the 922r kit if they had it. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:27:13 PM EDT
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What parts? Retro mag well and the non-adjustable stock. I want to build one similar to the original A1, just without the tungsten colored upper. I'll probably upgrade the muzzle device to something I can use with one of my suppressors too. I'm hoping the price on the Bren itself will come down a bit next year as they're still coasting around MSRP. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:31:25 PM EDT
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What parts? I bought one of the poly lowers to practice adding in the select fire markings, before I did it on my original lower. All in all, didn't turn out horrible...
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Posted: 12/19/2016 7:42:53 PM EDT
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I got a message from a buddy yesterday who got a similar response from CZ. The existence of the Bren 2 does not suddenly make the Bren 805 a bad gun. I'll be running the piss out of mine and will pick up the Bren 2 whenever CZ decides contractual requirements are filled and make them available for private purchase. For the right price I will definitely pick up a 805 but knowing the improvements that are incorporated into the BREN 2 (improved stock, lightened receiver), I think I will wait. Their 2017 catalog just dropped and includes the BREN 2 (for Mil/LE only). |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 4:04:54 PM EDT
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I'm happy to have the 805 now and then the 806 later. Have my cake and eat it too.
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Posted: 12/20/2016 10:29:22 PM EDT
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For the right price I will definitely pick up a 805 but knowing the improvements that are incorporated into the BREN 2 (improved stock, lightened receiver), I think I will wait. Their 2017 catalog just dropped and includes the BREN 2 (for Mil/LE only). And the non-reciprocating charging handle. It's in a weird spot on the 805. |
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Posted: 12/24/2016 9:29:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2016 10:04:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/25/2016 3:32:21 AM EDT
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I'm hoping the current lack of 805 inventory is because they 806 is coming here and availability and release date will be announced at SHOT.
I don't think that's what happening, but that's what I'm hoping for. And if that doesn't happen, I'm hoping enough inventory will show up that there might be some competition on price. |
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Posted: 12/25/2016 12:08:17 PM EDT
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If anyone is interested KYGUNCO has the pistols on sale for $1530 free ship
https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41556&utm_source=KyGunCo%20Marketing&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Year%20End |
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Posted: 12/28/2016 11:09:01 PM EDT
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How does everybody feal about the semi non user serviceable bcg on the bren *having to use punch
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Posted: 12/29/2016 12:16:09 AM EDT
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How does everybody feal about the semi non user serviceable bcg on the bren *having to use punch Needing a punch to do armorer-level detailed maintenance isn't bad at all, at least when compared to a number of other designs that need "special" tools. CZ could've included a punch with the rifle, but it's a civilian gun and 90% of people will never need to fully disassemble the BCG. It's not something you'd have to do in the field. The 10% that would need to disassemble the BCG can afford a $2 punch. Hell, I'd just tape it to the stock or include it in my maintenance kit. Then again, my kit already has a set of punches and a lot more tools than would actually be necessary. Hell, my multitool has a tiny set of punches. |
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