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Posted: 10/23/2015 2:22:56 PM EDT
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Takes AR magazines. Other calibers planned as well! https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr/ tag. can't view it at work for some reason ETA: msrp: TBD no actual photos I can see |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 2:33:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Uses standard AR-15 magazines
Accepts all standard semi auto HK-style trigger packs Swappable barrel lengths/calibers and gas lengths Patents Pending MSRP TBD The HK sear pack crowd will be creaming in their shorts. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 4:45:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Any price point listed?
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Posted: 10/23/2015 4:47:47 PM EDT
[#4]
40 round mags will look good in that rifle. I would be interested, but it might be too pricey.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 6:56:04 PM EDT
[#5]
If I had to guess, I'd say north of 2K...............but hopefully I am wrong
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40 round mags will look good in that rifle. I would be interested, but it might be too pricey. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 8:55:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Out.
MSRP TBD. Will totally be up there. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 9:05:00 PM EDT
[#7]
I'd be interested in one at about $1,200.
No more. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 9:25:47 PM EDT
[#8]
I love the look of the CETME L.....but these guys just came out of nowhere.....I'd be suspicious.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 9:28:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Don't get too excited. They're still showing CAD models. If they were more that vaporware, they'd have pics of the prototype.
YMMV |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 10:53:12 PM EDT
[#10]
I am interested in the Cetme more than anything, looks cool!
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Posted: 10/24/2015 4:05:09 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't get too excited. They're still showing CAD models. If they were more that vaporware, they'd have pics of the prototype. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 4:41:32 AM EDT
[#12]
StG44 in 5.56..
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:22:45 AM EDT
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Don't get too excited. They're still showing CAD models. If they were more that vaporware, they'd have pics of the prototype. YMMV This here. ^^^ At first glance the .22 reproduction from GSG is quite a bit more faithful to the original design. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:27:43 AM EDT
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This here. ^^^ At first glance the .22 reproduction from GSG is quite a bit more faithful to the original design. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't get too excited. They're still showing CAD models. If they were more that vaporware, they'd have pics of the prototype. YMMV This here. ^^^ At first glance the .22 reproduction from GSG is quite a bit more faithful to the original design. I had the GSG, and it was awesome. I put a German made Mauser sling on it, just as the real ones had. In fact, the stock on the GSG would fit right on the real deal. It even weighed the same. Mine was very accurate and fun to shoot. I sold it just because I have too many toys right now and it was not getting any playing time. If GSG was making this thing in .556, I'd be more interested in it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:58:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Does not look like the original. Hopefully this is only vaporware. Doubt anyone will buy it.
I would not at any price |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:24:00 PM EDT
[#16]
Meh, looks like potato spaghetti.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:08:59 PM EDT
[#17]
No use for collectors, and too goofy for shooters. Count me out.
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Posted: 10/26/2015 12:47:18 PM EDT
[#18]
They don't reply to emails either, not confidence inspiring.
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Posted: 10/26/2015 12:52:30 PM EDT
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No use for collectors, and too goofy for shooters. Count me out. This and that. The only "improved" historical design that I have any interest in is the Triple O HCAR. And I don't have that much. |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 1:20:37 PM EDT
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Neat.
But anticipated release date is Fall/Winter 2015? And all they have to show is a pretty half-assed CAD drawing? I think MagPul just met their release date reliability match. They indicate it will be released in 4 different calibers? An entirely new concept product like that, and they are going to chamber it and make bolts for, and tune the gas system for 4 different chamberings right out of the gate? And vet, and make magazines for 4 calibers all at once? I have a lot of red flags going off here. |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 3:07:37 PM EDT
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No use for collectors, and too goofy for shooters. Count me out. Yep, I am guessing this will be a novelty at a non-novelty price. |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 3:44:42 PM EDT
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This and that. The only "improved" historical design that I have any interest in is the Triple O HCAR. And I don't have that much. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No use for collectors, and too goofy for shooters. Count me out. This and that. The only "improved" historical design that I have any interest in is the Triple O HCAR. And I don't have that much. Same. I'd be interested in a spot on reproduction. Granted x33 is hard to come by, but if I'm getting a historical firearm I want it right. I just don't see the point in dropping what is most likely going to be $1500+ on a 556 platform that does nothing better than my AR's or an AK in 556 will do. |
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Posted: 10/27/2015 7:44:28 AM EDT
[#23]
You'd swear it was being put out by VLTOR...
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Posted: 10/30/2015 6:20:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uses standard AR-15 magazines Accepts all standard semi auto HK-style trigger packs Swappable barrel lengths/calibers and gas lengths Patents Pending MSRP TBD The HK sear pack crowd will be creaming in their shorts. Future creamer.   |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:38:36 AM EDT
[#25]
That looks horrible.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:41:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Rivet counters.
You guys are likely the same guys who don't like the profile of the Kahr Thompsons, and tang safeties of late model Winchesters either. Or three click Ubertis. Guess what, the real STG-44 was select fire too, are we going to complain about that detail being omitted? You guys are worse than old women. I'm in. I'm also eagerly awaiting the GSG 9mm MP40. Neither will satisfy purists. Both will be fun. It only matters if I enjoy it. Dear start up companies, make more things like this. People like me with disposable income will buy them by the cartload. Just make sure it works... |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:29:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:32:13 AM EDT
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Rivet counters.
You guys are likely the same guys who don't like the profile of the Kahr Thompsons, and tang safeties of late model Winchesters either. Or three click Ubertis. Guess what, the real STG-44 was select fire too, are we going to complain about that detail being omitted? You guys are worse than old women. I'm in. I'm also eagerly awaiting the GSG 9mm MP40. Neither will satisfy purists. Both will be fun. It only matters if I enjoy it. Dear start up companies, make more things like this. People like me with disposable income will buy them by the cartload. Just make sure it works... While im not hating on anyone wanting to build and offer a new gun for sale, I think that something like this fits into a weird category. The design overall doesnt offer any advantage to buying it, compared to an AR. So that really only leaves collectors. but collectors are turned off because changing the ammunition type changes the aesthetics by changing the shape of the magazine. So it just begs the question, whats the point? its not appealing to collectors or just shooters. I dont think the thompsons, get as much hate, because there are legal reasons why they must be built that way. And if SBRd is aesthetically the same as an actual thompson closed bolt aside. But there arent any legal reasons why a STG44 couldn't be built that visually on the outside is identical to an actual one. Just the scarcity of 7.92 kurz keeps it from ever being a profitable venture. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:42:18 PM EDT
[#29]
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Rivet counters.
You guys are likely the same guys who don't like the profile of the Kahr Thompsons, and tang safeties of late model Winchesters either. Or three click Ubertis. Guess what, the real STG-44 was select fire too, are we going to complain about that detail being omitted? You guys are worse than old women. I'm in. I'm also eagerly awaiting the GSG 9mm MP40. Neither will satisfy purists. Both will be fun. It only matters if I enjoy it. Dear start up companies, make more things like this. People like me with disposable income will buy them by the cartload. Just make sure it works... Waiting on the MP40 as well!
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Posted: 11/1/2015 2:17:20 PM EDT
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Rivet counters.
You guys are likely the same guys who don't like the profile of the Kahr Thompsons, and tang safeties of late model Winchesters either. Or three click Ubertis. Guess what, the real STG-44 was select fire too, are we going to complain about that detail being omitted? You guys are worse than old women. I'm in. I'm also eagerly awaiting the GSG 9mm MP40. Neither will satisfy purists. Both will be fun. It only matters if I enjoy it. Dear start up companies, make more things like this. People like me with disposable income will buy them by the cartload. Just make sure it works... The GSG MP40 is closer to what the MP40 was than this is to the STG-44 heck GSG's version of the STG-44 was closer than this is going to be. SMG guns at least has a better grasp on the idea in that they offer a original FG-42 caliber and everything, ( I would like to think that everybody would offer Select-fire capability if they could but unfortunately that is not possible at this point in time) and they are also going to come out with a "modernized" version for those who wish to have one. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 4:43:33 PM EDT
[#31]
They're making one in 8mm Kurz as well...
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Posted: 11/2/2015 10:57:16 PM EDT
[#32]
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They're making one in 8mm Kurz as well... Now I'm interested.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:14:44 PM EDT
[#33]
If they could just get rid of that fake can and lengthen the barrel to legal length
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The GSG MP40 is closer to what the MP40 was than this is to the STG-44 heck GSG's version of the STG-44 was closer than this is going to be. SMG guns at least has a better grasp on the idea in that they offer a original FG-42 caliber and everything, ( I would like to think that everybody would offer Select-fire capability if they could but unfortunately that is not possible at this point in time) and they are also going to come out with a "modernized" version for those who wish to have one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rivet counters.
You guys are likely the same guys who don't like the profile of the Kahr Thompsons, and tang safeties of late model Winchesters either. Or three click Ubertis. Guess what, the real STG-44 was select fire too, are we going to complain about that detail being omitted? You guys are worse than old women. I'm in. I'm also eagerly awaiting the GSG 9mm MP40. Neither will satisfy purists. Both will be fun. It only matters if I enjoy it. Dear start up companies, make more things like this. People like me with disposable income will buy them by the cartload. Just make sure it works... The GSG MP40 is closer to what the MP40 was than this is to the STG-44 heck GSG's version of the STG-44 was closer than this is going to be. SMG guns at least has a better grasp on the idea in that they offer a original FG-42 caliber and everything, ( I would like to think that everybody would offer Select-fire capability if they could but unfortunately that is not possible at this point in time) and they are also going to come out with a "modernized" version for those who wish to have one. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:56:51 AM EDT
[#34]
I'm interested in the 5.56 version. Would like to see a real deal rifle though.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 3:43:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Just got a preorder email from them.
$1799... I also watched the two in range tv episodes on them. My only concern at this point is that I still haven't seen a complete or even partially complete rifle. The image on their site is now a colored render but i would still like to see at least a working prototype before handing over cash. It does say it will be debuting at shot show so maybe I'll preorder once I see it there. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 4:01:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Some good watching in preparation for this gun.
You need to understand the original: 
and how that ties in with the HMG Reproduction Version:
and now for the exciting stuff- Part 3 (Variations/Calibers/Pricing)
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Posted: 11/30/2015 4:10:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Didn't notice they had posted part 3 thanks for sharing.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 4:17:44 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm definitely getting one, just can't decide which caliber I want initially.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 5:47:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Self-edit. They responded to my email promptly saying that they are going to release a lever to have a button release on the left side.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 5:50:05 PM EDT
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Accepts all standard semi auto HK-style trigger packs The HK sear pack crowd will be creaming in their shorts. No, they won't. While it does use HK trigger boxes, it is not compatible with HK auto sears. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:04:02 PM EDT
[#41]
It is a very interesting project and I think the price is reasonable given that they are a smaller shop building an all metal rifle. I would like more optics mounting options other than a pic rail on the rear site tower. I am curious about the weight also. I was interested in the 7.62x39 due to similarity with 8mm Kurz but I rather have compatibility with magazines that I already have for my ar.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:19:40 PM EDT
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It is a very interesting project and I think the price is reasonable given that they are a smaller shop building an all metal rifle. I would like more optics mounting options other than a pic rail on the rear site tower. I am curious about the weight also. I was interested in the 7.62x39 due to similarity with 8mm Kurz but I rather have compatibility with magazines that I already have for my ar. I don't know why they didn't put on the side rail like the originals had other than to reduce cost. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:21:36 PM EDT
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I don't know why they didn't put on the side rail like the originals had other than to reduce cost. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is a very interesting project and I think the price is reasonable given that they are a smaller shop building an all metal rifle. I would like more optics mounting options other than a pic rail on the rear site tower. I am curious about the weight also. I was interested in the 7.62x39 due to similarity with 8mm Kurz but I rather have compatibility with magazines that I already have for my ar. I don't know why they didn't put on the side rail like the originals had other than to reduce cost. +1. Go big or go home |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:21:19 PM EDT
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+1. Go big or go home Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is a very interesting project and I think the price is reasonable given that they are a smaller shop building an all metal rifle. I would like more optics mounting options other than a pic rail on the rear site tower. I am curious about the weight also. I was interested in the 7.62x39 due to similarity with 8mm Kurz but I rather have compatibility with magazines that I already have for my ar. I don't know why they didn't put on the side rail like the originals had other than to reduce cost. +1. Go big or go home Go to their Facebook page and make your requests known. If they're wise, they'll listen to their customer base and incorporate things we want to see. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:26:38 PM EDT
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Go to their Facebook page and make your requests known. If they're wise, they'll listen to their customer base and incorporate things we want to see. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is a very interesting project and I think the price is reasonable given that they are a smaller shop building an all metal rifle. I would like more optics mounting options other than a pic rail on the rear site tower. I am curious about the weight also. I was interested in the 7.62x39 due to similarity with 8mm Kurz but I rather have compatibility with magazines that I already have for my ar. I don't know why they didn't put on the side rail like the originals had other than to reduce cost. +1. Go big or go home Go to their Facebook page and make your requests known. If they're wise, they'll listen to their customer base and incorporate things we want to see. Do you know if they are doing a deposit or is it just we will ping your card when its ready? |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 12:22:51 AM EDT
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Rivet counters.
You guys are likely the same guys who don't like the profile of the Kahr Thompsons, and tang safeties of late model Winchesters either. Or three click Ubertis. Guess what, the real STG-44 was select fire too, are we going to complain about that detail being omitted? You guys are worse than old women. I'm in. I'm also eagerly awaiting the GSG 9mm MP40. Neither will satisfy purists. Both will be fun. It only matters if I enjoy it. Dear start up companies, make more things like this. People like me with disposable income will buy them by the cartload. Just make sure it works... My gripe was that it was going to have a completely ridiculous looking STANAG mag sticking out the bottom. They addressed that in the videos. There will be a correct/classic mag available that will fit the same magazine well. If that 9mm MP40 clone was designed to accept curved MP5 magazines, I'm pretty sure you'd take issue as well. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 2:27:21 PM EDT
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I'm definitely getting one, just can't decide which caliber I want initially. This is my only quandary as well. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 2:38:52 PM EDT
[#48]
Anything new come out yet about this rifle.
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Posted: 1/5/2016 2:55:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Should be more come shotshow
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Posted: 1/5/2016 3:54:59 PM EDT
[#50]
1700 bucks....think I'll pass
Maybe 500 I'd rather have an AR15 or AK or both for that kind of money |
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