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Posted: 7/11/2015 10:33:03 AM EDT
AK-47 in 7.62x39
AR-15 in 6.8 spc 
Consider you have the same amount of ammunition and number of magazines for both and both are outfitted as seen in the pictures, yes the AK only has 20-round magazines and yes it is an Aimpoint on the AR with 25-round magazines, which one would you keep? The AK for availability of cheap 7.62x39 ammunition and reputation for reliability? Or the 6.8spc AR, better ergos, improved accuracy, increased effective range, but no cheap or as available 6.8 spc ammunition. There's no switching the AR over to another caliber, what you see is what you get and you have to stick with your one and only choice forever. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 10:38:23 AM EDT
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Neither sell both and get something better with a good optic.
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Posted: 7/11/2015 11:05:42 AM EDT
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You can get 762 at wally world. Good luck finding 6.8 anywhere.
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Posted: 7/11/2015 1:48:24 PM EDT
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Neither sell both and get something better with a good optic. I see an aimpoint on the 6.8. How are you defining "good"? Is ammo a factor? I say Arsenal 762x39 I guess |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:16:49 PM EDT
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I'm not knocking Aimpoints i use their Micros on all my go-to's . But he is going for a jack of all trades type of rifle an the aimpoint may not be ideal ,also the Ak doesn't even have a side mount. So in terms of a do it all rifle a 5.56 platform with a good 1-4 or 1-6 scope would be my choice for ammo/parts availability. The 5.56 if more versatile than x39 and 6.8 isn't prolific enough.
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I see an aimpoint on the 6.8. How are you defining "good"? Is ammo a factor? I say Arsenal 762x39 I guess Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neither sell both and get something better with a good optic. I see an aimpoint on the 6.8. How are you defining "good"? Is ammo a factor? I say Arsenal 762x39 I guess |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 3:44:24 PM EDT
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In general, I prefer ARs over AKs. In this specific instance however, I would pick the AK.
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Posted: 7/11/2015 4:00:50 PM EDT
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In general, I prefer ARs over AKs. In this specific instance however, I would pick the AK. Same. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 5:20:52 PM EDT
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Not understanding the aversion to 6.8 spc, even in it's standard loadings it blows away both 7.62x39 and 5.56. Ammo is available and not any more expensive than other commercially available hunting ammo.
http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/68spc/ |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 5:38:54 PM EDT
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Personally, I'd take the AR.
Yeah, the ammo is more expensive, but it's also more accurate. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:44:25 PM EDT
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You can get 762 at wally world. Good luck finding 6.8 anywhere. We have 6.8 at our Wal Mart and Academy Doc |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 4:21:27 AM EDT
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In this case, I'd take the AR, mainly because the Aimpoint would allow me to engage targets in lower-light conditions and with greater speed, plus it has BUIS in case the optic fails. It also has a flash suppressor, which I prefer to a muzzle brake, especially in low-light conditions.
If the AK had a similar optic and flash suppressor, then it would just come down to ammo and mag availability (which favors the AK), although personally I'd prefer a stamped receiver AK to a milled receiver, due to weight savings. |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 5:26:45 AM EDT
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We have 6.8 at our Wal Mart and Academy Doc Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can get 762 at wally world. Good luck finding 6.8 anywhere. We have 6.8 at our Wal Mart and Academy Doc Yup Ar for me |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 8:14:51 PM EDT
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AR...
You can change parts and calibers easily... 
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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:25:53 PM EDT
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Neither sell both and get something better with a good optic. Yup. |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:54:26 PM EDT
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Out of those two the AR no question.
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Posted: 7/13/2015 10:22:39 PM EDT
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AK..........6.8 is out there but not as readily available as x39
If the AR was 5.56 i would say AR |
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Posted: 7/16/2015 4:49:03 PM EDT
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^I agree with him.
IF I could get the AR in 5.56, that would be my choice. But if I had to choose between those two... I'd take the AK. |
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Posted: 7/16/2015 7:20:34 PM EDT
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Those choices blow. If I was saddled one with either, I'd sell it right quick and put that coin to good use. For a general-purpose defensive rifle, I'll take a 5.56 AR.
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Posted: 7/16/2015 8:18:30 PM EDT
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You can get 762 at wally world. Good luck finding 6.8 anywhere. Everyone I have been to in MD and VA has this stuff Fusion |
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Posted: 7/17/2015 6:14:40 AM EDT
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Our walmart always has 6.8 fusion, always, not much else except 5.56 and 7.62x 39 but 6.8 is there, Dunhams has it, fleetfarm has it,
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Posted: 7/17/2015 7:26:29 AM EDT
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I love and have 5 AK's and 9 AR's. That said I would keep the AR and buy another upper later when you have the $$. 5.56 upper for ease of ammo.
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Posted: 7/17/2015 1:48:00 PM EDT
[#21]
I thought cheap imported 7.62 was gone now.
I personally don't like AK's that much. I like certain things about them, but I'd choose the AR. |
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Posted: 7/17/2015 10:17:44 PM EDT
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Choose one for what?
Plinking at the range self defense war SHTF range....cqb medium long??? |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 9:40:50 PM EDT
[#23]
All of the above
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Posted: 7/19/2015 12:12:59 PM EDT
[#24]
I'd take an AR-15 in 5.56mm over an AK. But I don't care for expensive ammo like 6.8mm. So I'd take the AK-47 over the 6.8mm AR-15.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 1:09:35 PM EDT
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If I had to choose between those two, I'd put the aimpoint on the AK and use it. A gun is no good if you dont shoot it alot, and AK ammo is cheaper unless you reload and have a bunch of brass. I like 20 round Ak mags. They make the gun more nimble in the hands for me. I dont care much for milled receivers because they are heavy.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 9:41:17 PM EDT
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Neither and I can choose more than just 1.
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Posted: 7/27/2015 8:36:53 PM EDT
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Given the choice above, and those two specific rifles in those two specific calibers, I'd take the AK any day. Some folks here can find 6.8 SPC; it might as well not exist for me in regards to local availability.
The sights really don't matter to me at all, as I grew up on irons, and I'm not going to be taking long-range precision shots at night anyway. Stick a light on the AK, and if you do have to use it at night, either make sure the target's close enough to not need the light, or shoot and move. As for accuracy, well, he posted what looks like an Arsenal, and mine's plenty accurate to the limits of the cartridge. If he'd posted a 5.56 AR, I'd leave the AK behind, though. |
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Posted: 9/18/2015 12:17:47 AM EDT
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I would take the 6.8 SPC, no contest, I already reload for 6.8 SPC, so that's a no brainer. I would also install a quality hand guard and buttstock to improve the overall ergonomics, I really don't like the Magpul MOE accessories. Maybe something along the lines of the Magpul UBR or Vltor EMOD buttstock along with a Vltor VIS-KM upper receiver.
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Posted: 9/18/2015 8:22:42 AM EDT
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Of those two...AK in 7.62 not even a shadow of a doubt in my mind.
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Posted: 9/18/2015 9:18:21 PM EDT
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Sticking to question I'd take the AK between those exact two as they are. In real life if I could have only one a very light weight 16" with a 1-6 optic
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Posted: 10/15/2015 11:03:31 PM EDT
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I would take the 6.8.
With that said, I would not paint myself into such a corner. I would rock a Colt Ar-15 in .223 and a nice bolt gun in .308. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 4:17:27 PM EDT
[#32]
In this particular instance I would take the AK.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 10:01:00 PM EDT
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Sell both, and get an M1A?
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:21:06 AM EDT
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In general, I prefer ARs over AKs. In this specific instance however, I would pick the AK. Ditto. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:23:36 AM EDT
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Sticking to question I'd take the AK between those exact two as they are. In real life if I could have only one a very light weight 16" with a 1-6 optic And ditto this. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:32:14 AM EDT
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AK! AR's are for fags!
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Posted: 11/29/2015 9:30:02 AM EDT
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I'll pass.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 11:30:29 AM EDT
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In general, I prefer ARs over AKs. In this specific instance however, I would pick the AK. I agree. Change that to a 5.56 AR and my answer changes. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 1:07:00 AM EDT
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5.56 nato ammo is cheap and plentiful, 7.62x39mm ammo is cheap and plentiful that's the fodder that will be available in a SHIF situation
so pick your platform, a decent AR or AK will fill the need, the most COMMON pistol ammo is .40 S&W and 9mm A Glock w/ a conversion barrel , and you can shoot both |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 1:39:58 PM EDT
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5.56 nato ammo is cheap and plentiful, 7.62x39mm ammo is cheap and plentiful that's the fodder that will be available in a SHIF situation so pick your platform, a decent AR or AK will fill the need, the most COMMON pistol ammo is .40 S&W and 9mm A Glock w/ a conversion barrel , and you can shoot both You know, I think I've asked this a few times on here and didn't get an answer. I thought there was a ban on imported russian stuff. I see far less 7.62 x 39 on shelves than I used to. I have not looked a TON, but at Wal Mart last night there definitely was way more .223 than 7.62 x 39. And most of the 7.62 x39 I see is like Tula or american stuff. I think. What is the deal with this? Am I right about the ban. Furthermore I don't think I've ever actually seen a 5.45 x 39 round, other than when somebody let me shot his krink a few years ago at the range. Which I thought was a fricking sweet gun. It had the little wire hanger stock and it was pretty handy and easy to shoot. Anyways..... As I see it, .223 is way more common and plentiful than just about anything else. 5.56 is common too. But I think I see more .223. But you add the two together and in my experience it's about the most plentiful round there is. In the little bit that I look. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 5:51:53 PM EDT
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In general, I prefer ARs over AKs. In this specific instance however, I would pick the AK. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 5:54:25 PM EDT
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You know, I think I've asked this a few times on here and didn't get an answer. I thought there was a ban on imported russian stuff. I see far less 7.62 x 39 on shelves than I used to. I have not looked a TON, but at Wal Mart last night there definitely was way more .223 than 7.62 x 39. And most of the 7.62 x39 I see is like Tula or american stuff. I think. What is the deal with this? Am I right about the ban. Furthermore I don't think I've ever actually seen a 5.45 x 39 round, other than when somebody let me shot his krink a few years ago at the range. Which I thought was a fricking sweet gun. It had the little wire hanger stock and it was pretty handy and easy to shoot. Anyways..... As I see it, .223 is way more common and plentiful than just about anything else. 5.56 is common too. But I think I see more .223. But you add the two together and in my experience it's about the most plentiful round there is. In the little bit that I look. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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5.56 nato ammo is cheap and plentiful, 7.62x39mm ammo is cheap and plentiful that's the fodder that will be available in a SHIF situation so pick your platform, a decent AR or AK will fill the need, the most COMMON pistol ammo is .40 S&W and 9mm A Glock w/ a conversion barrel , and you can shoot both You know, I think I've asked this a few times on here and didn't get an answer. I thought there was a ban on imported russian stuff. I see far less 7.62 x 39 on shelves than I used to. I have not looked a TON, but at Wal Mart last night there definitely was way more .223 than 7.62 x 39. And most of the 7.62 x39 I see is like Tula or american stuff. I think. What is the deal with this? Am I right about the ban. Furthermore I don't think I've ever actually seen a 5.45 x 39 round, other than when somebody let me shot his krink a few years ago at the range. Which I thought was a fricking sweet gun. It had the little wire hanger stock and it was pretty handy and easy to shoot. Anyways..... As I see it, .223 is way more common and plentiful than just about anything else. 5.56 is common too. But I think I see more .223. But you add the two together and in my experience it's about the most plentiful round there is. In the little bit that I look. No ban on Russian ammo. What was banned was the 7N6 steel-core 5.45x39 surplus ammo. It came in from Russia, Bulgaria, and Poland. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 6:28:11 PM EDT
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So that's it? For some reason I thought it was more in depth than that.
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