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Posted: 3/18/2015 7:49:39 AM EDT
I went to Academy today to pick up some target rounds. When I got to the shelves it was almost bare where they keep the 223/556, the shelves are still full of other calibers. I grabbed 7 boxes of Monarch 223 steel and thought I should sit on 'em if there's a shortage going on. I have nine 30 rnd boxes of ZQI 556 SS109 put away because I haven't seen any more of the ZQIs at Walmart. I still have 3 boxes of SD 223 at least (Fusion, AE HP and Hornady polymer tip).
What's going on guys? I know about the M855 but it fell through right? |
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There was a run. Expect a few months for supply to catch up to the waning demand.
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A new Gander Mountain opened in Tulsa, OK last week (first one in OK). I visited it today for the first time. They have 55 gr M193 for $499 per 1,000, and they have several dozen cases, but I didn't see anyone buying it, especially me.
They had a few dozen boxes of M855 on display for $86 for 150 rd boxes. I didn't see anyone buying that either. Their handgun prices seemed high to me. I didn't price any of their long guns, but the few tags that I could read across the counter on AR's seemed too high too. They also had plenty of .223 & 5.56 in 20 rd boxes, but it all started at .50 to .60 per round, and went up from there. |
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I was able to get some from Midway, and my local walmart had some also, even a box with 800 rounds.
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what I've noticed is the lack of a good supply of bulk, brass cased .223 or 5.56 at decent prices (<$0.35/rd). There is some availability of both but at prices I refuse to pay...
One manufacturer of brass cased .223 that I really like that appears to be completely sold out at the moment is Wolf Gold. Can't find any bulk online to speak of. I hope another shipment is due in from Taiwan soon! |
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i think gander mountain is typically expensive.
still a decent variety at local walmarts, although you can tell there was a bit of a run recently. still no /22lr |
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OP, have you been living under a rock? Time to get out of the basement once in a while.
ATF announced they were going to ban the sale of M855. This started panic buying for a couple of weeks. ATF backed off for now due to strong backlash from folks and politicians. The supply should be back soon though!! |
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Quoted: A new Gander Mountain opened in Tulsa, OK last week (first one in OK). I visited it today for the first time. They have 55 gr M193 for $499 per 1,000, and they have several dozen cases, but I didn't see anyone buying it, especially me. They had a few dozen boxes of M855 on display for $86 for 150 rd boxes. I didn't see anyone buying that either. Their handgun prices seemed high to me. I didn't price any of their long guns, but the few tags that I could read across the counter on AR's seemed too high too. They also had plenty of .223 & 5.56 in 20 rd boxes, but it all started at .50 to .60 per round, and went up from there. View Quote |
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Plenty online at the major ammo dealers. Prices coming back down too.
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Plenty in the walmarts I have been to in DFW. The ammo cans on down... Just no 22.
Edit.. Can't spell today |
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Our Academy had several 900 round ammo cans of Rio M855 for $449. No thanks. I didn't even know Rio made anything other than cheap shotgun shells.
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. View Quote This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? |
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OP, have you been living under a rock? Time to get out of the basement once in a while. ATF announced they were going to ban the sale of M855. This started panic buying for a couple of weeks. ATF backed off for now due to strong backlash from folks and politicians. The supply should be back soon though!! View Quote No dude, I expected the M855 to be short in supply, not the rest. The shelves at Academy and Walmart are practically bare of 223/556 but a few high dollar SD rounds. As I said I grabbed that 7 boxes of Monarch 223 steel. They both got plenty of 762s though. |
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No dude, I expected the M855 to be short in supply, not the rest. The shelves at Academy and Walmart are practically bare of 223/556 but a few high dollar SD rounds. As I said I grabbed that 7 boxes of Monarch 223 steel. They both got plenty of 762s though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, have you been living under a rock? Time to get out of the basement once in a while. ATF announced they were going to ban the sale of M855. This started panic buying for a couple of weeks. ATF backed off for now due to strong backlash from folks and politicians. The supply should be back soon though!! No dude, I expected the M855 to be short in supply, not the rest. The shelves at Academy and Walmart are practically bare of 223/556 but a few high dollar SD rounds. As I said I grabbed that 7 boxes of Monarch 223 steel. They both got plenty of 762s though. OP...you are in TX. Get online and order what you want. Its not that difficult. |
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No dude, I expected the M855 to be short in supply, not the rest. The shelves at Academy and Walmart are practically bare of 223/556 but a few high dollar SD rounds. As I said I grabbed that 7 boxes of Monarch 223 steel. They both got plenty of 762s though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, have you been living under a rock? Time to get out of the basement once in a while. ATF announced they were going to ban the sale of M855. This started panic buying for a couple of weeks. ATF backed off for now due to strong backlash from folks and politicians. The supply should be back soon though!! No dude, I expected the M855 to be short in supply, not the rest. The shelves at Academy and Walmart are practically bare of 223/556 but a few high dollar SD rounds. As I said I grabbed that 7 boxes of Monarch 223 steel. They both got plenty of 762s though. New to shooting then ? |
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This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo and won't pay more than $0.35/rd for .223. Yes there is a selection of ammo out there but alot is steel and I refuse to support the drastic rise in ammo prices every time a "scare" comes along. Some might not care - its their choice to maybe spend double of what they're used to. The ammoseek.com and gunbot.net results for .223/5.56 will support my statements. I was at my local BassPro and Dicks over the last couple of days and most of the ammo are 20 rd boxes @ $0.50 to over $1.00/rd. A couple of boxes is fine for hunting or self defense applications but for going to range and blowing through a couple of hundred rounds - no way.... |
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I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo .... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo .... Why not? Never had an issues with any steel case. The wolf polymer is boxer primed so i get another 2 -3 use from it |
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I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo and won't pay more than $0.35/rd for .223. Yes there is a selection of ammo out there but alot is steel and I refuse to support the drastic rise in ammo prices every time a "scare" comes along. Some might not care - its their choice to maybe spend double of what they're used to. The ammoseek.com and gunbot.net results for .223/5.56 will support my statements. I was at my local BassPro and Dicks over the last couple of days and most of the ammo are 20 rd boxes @ $0.50 to over $1.00/rd. A couple of boxes is fine for hunting or self defense applications but for going to range and blowing through a couple of hundred rounds - no way.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo and won't pay more than $0.35/rd for .223. Yes there is a selection of ammo out there but alot is steel and I refuse to support the drastic rise in ammo prices every time a "scare" comes along. Some might not care - its their choice to maybe spend double of what they're used to. The ammoseek.com and gunbot.net results for .223/5.56 will support my statements. I was at my local BassPro and Dicks over the last couple of days and most of the ammo are 20 rd boxes @ $0.50 to over $1.00/rd. A couple of boxes is fine for hunting or self defense applications but for going to range and blowing through a couple of hundred rounds - no way.... I just purchased 400 rounds of Privi M193 5.56 for $120 that's $0.30/rd. Privi is very good brass cased ammo and its in 5.56 load. Its also been rated as being quite accurate. |
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Why not? Never had an issues with any steel case. The wolf polymer is boxer primed so i get another 2 -3 use from it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo .... Why not? Never had an issues with any steel case. The wolf polymer is boxer primed so i get another 2 -3 use from it just personal choice |
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I just purchased 400 rounds of Privi M193 5.56 for $120 that's $0.30/rd. Privi is very good brass cased ammo and its in 5.56 load. Its also been rated as being quite accurate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo and won't pay more than $0.35/rd for .223. Yes there is a selection of ammo out there but alot is steel and I refuse to support the drastic rise in ammo prices every time a "scare" comes along. Some might not care - its their choice to maybe spend double of what they're used to. The ammoseek.com and gunbot.net results for .223/5.56 will support my statements. I was at my local BassPro and Dicks over the last couple of days and most of the ammo are 20 rd boxes @ $0.50 to over $1.00/rd. A couple of boxes is fine for hunting or self defense applications but for going to range and blowing through a couple of hundred rounds - no way.... I just purchased 400 rounds of Privi M193 5.56 for $120 that's $0.30/rd. Privi is very good brass cased ammo and its in 5.56 load. Its also been rated as being quite accurate. that's a good find - haven't seen any around at that price and I've been looking pretty hard ;) you're lucky... |
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OP, have you been living under a rock? Time to get out of the basement once in a while. ATF announced they were going to ban the sale of M855. This started panic buying for a couple of weeks. ATF backed off for now due to strong backlash from folks and politicians. The supply should be back soon though!! View Quote When m855 was panic bought, it forced others to buy other brands AS WELL AS other calibers like x39, .308, etc Panic on one caliber or bullet type doesn't just mean a shortage for that one particular item Economics, how do they work? |
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that's a good find - haven't seen any around at that price and I've been looking pretty hard ;) you're lucky... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No shortage here, lots of 223-5.56 around. This...^. Plenty of .223/5.56 to be had. I have no problem finding good M193 and even M855. I have been buying PPU and PMC X-tac in both M193 and M855. I also am buying Winchester M855 and even some Hornady TAP T2 and 5.56 Barrier. There is also plenty of IMI Razor core and M193. I see tons of Federal Lake City M855 and M193. Was in Cabelas where they had plenty of various .223/5.56 including M855. Just google. Man...don't know what the problem is with some of you guys. You just want to come on here and have others give you links without even doing a little research yourself? I think what people want to shoot and for how much will dictate what's available... I for one won't shoot steel cased ammo and won't pay more than $0.35/rd for .223. Yes there is a selection of ammo out there but alot is steel and I refuse to support the drastic rise in ammo prices every time a "scare" comes along. Some might not care - its their choice to maybe spend double of what they're used to. The ammoseek.com and gunbot.net results for .223/5.56 will support my statements. I was at my local BassPro and Dicks over the last couple of days and most of the ammo are 20 rd boxes @ $0.50 to over $1.00/rd. A couple of boxes is fine for hunting or self defense applications but for going to range and blowing through a couple of hundred rounds - no way.... I just purchased 400 rounds of Privi M193 5.56 for $120 that's $0.30/rd. Privi is very good brass cased ammo and its in 5.56 load. Its also been rated as being quite accurate. that's a good find - haven't seen any around at that price and I've been looking pretty hard ;) you're lucky... Gunbroker.....plenty more auctions like that one with very few people bidding. This seller has a lot of .223/5.56 auctions: http://www.gunbroker.com/Rifle-Ammunition/BI.aspx?IncludeSellers=649111&ca=5000164 Here is one for 400 rounds of Privi M855: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=471704125 |
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A new Gander Mountain opened in Tulsa, OK last week (first one in OK). I visited it today for the first time. They have 55 gr M193 for $499 per 1,000, and they have several dozen cases, but I didn't see anyone buying it, especially me. They had a few dozen boxes of M855 on display for $86 for 150 rd boxes. I didn't see anyone buying that either. Their handgun prices seemed high to me. I didn't price any of their long guns, but the few tags that I could read across the counter on AR's seemed too high too. They also had plenty of .223 & 5.56 in 20 rd boxes, but it all started at .50 to .60 per round, and went up from there. View Quote The first time I visited gander mountain in Pensacola I was excited, had heard good things. Holy hell is that place overpriced!! They had a m&p15 sport for $719 and a 6920 for $1150!! Handguns were outrageous too, but what really killed me were the damn accesories, $25 for a black Gen 2 pmag? They wanted $160 for a set of Mbus sights and $240 for the troy flip up sights next to them!! Never again Academy has actually had really good deals on green tips lately, and I bought some steel rounds from the local store for .20/round last week. |
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One of the local gun stores that I get 'stuff' from had lots of PMC 5.56 ammo the other day when I was in there. The down side though was that it was $529/1000! Too rich for my blood! For the time being though, I have enough components to reload 5.56 that I do not need to buy any of the 'over priced' stuff for a long while.
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