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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:27:04 PM EDT
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Talking to a guy (via the internet) who is looking to sell his D300 bought from TNVC. I have & use gen 3 stuff, thermals, etc and this would be a loaner for friends. How does one of these compare? I'm guessing the gen 2 stuff doesn't have data sheets? Resolution and gain will fall short of current Gen 3 and even the newest Gen 2 offering from NGI or Armasight. It should be OK for navigating in all but the darkest open areas. Supplemental IR will help. Thoughts on that model? I think this is a great loaner. It is hard to build into a complete system but as a stripped helmet mounted MNVD I think it's a good unit. What are used ones going for? I don't know. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:40:19 PM EDT
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I have never looked thought a D300, but I do have a autogated Gen2+ PVS-14 from Night Ops Tactical. In general Gen 2+ can rival some Gen3 tubes in clarity and brightness in an urban, moon/star lit night. Where Gen2+ will not do so well is under a heavy tree canopy, dark corners, or a dark warehouse without the use of supplemental IR light. Usually they will not come with spec sheets, but you can send them out to have it done if you really want to know. Looking through the tube will give you an idea if it's a good buy or not vs a data sheet.
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Posted: 4/12/2017 4:10:33 PM EDT
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I have never looked thought a D300, but I do have a autogated Gen2+ PVS-14 from Night Ops Tactical. In general Gen 2+ can rival some Gen3 tubes in clarity and brightness in an urban, moon/star lit night. Where Gen2+ will not do so well is under a heavy tree canopy, dark corners, or a dark warehouse without the use of supplemental IR light. Usually they will not come with spec sheets, but you can send them out to have it done if you really want to know. Looking through the tube will give you an idea if it's a good buy or not vs a data sheet. In a relaxed "loaner unit" role for the OP this probably is not a concern. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 5:02:57 PM EDT
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Talking to a guy (via the internet) who is looking to sell his D300 bought from TNVC. I have & use gen 3 stuff, thermals, etc and this would be a loaner for friends. How does one of these compare? I'm guessing the gen 2 stuff doesn't have data sheets? Thoughts on that model? What are used ones going for? We sold these back in the day when they were $800 or so. Now they have risen in price a great deal over the years. These were Gen 2 29LP units. Not sure how much they command nowadays based on how old the unit is. They did come with data sheets back in the day, newer models did not. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 7:31:13 PM EDT
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These use the old PVS-5 tubes. Good tubes, but not a shadow on Gen3 now. They lack resolution, but work well enough down to brighter starlight levels - they won't cope with overcast starlight at all though.
Better than Gen1 by a long shot, and will give a good image most of the time, but if you need something capable under all lighting conditions, then secondhand Gen3s are pretty cheap now. As with everything, the cost being asked for it is the key part of the question. Around $500 is probably around where you might pay now, depending on condition. At a couple of hundred, it's a bargain. I assume it's somewhere in the middle? |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 9:06:00 PM EDT
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How does the Gen 2+ PVS-14 do in urban areas in dynamic lighting? I have found Gen 2 to wash out badly in brighter areas. Ultimately you can lift the NOD but in a dynamic situation you may not want to/be able to do so. In a relaxed "loaner unit" role for the OP this probably is not a concern. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 9:51:12 PM EDT
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I had one back in the day. Video i made with a cell phone in typical suburbia. Out in the country or deep in the woods an illuminator is definitely needed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dblEaK2JDSM |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 10:04:40 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info all, think I'm going to pass on this one.
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Posted: 4/12/2017 11:21:49 PM EDT
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Yeah that's my d300 lol!!!! The descriptions in this thread nail the abilities of the optic.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 12:21:59 PM EDT
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I live in a typical city and my Gen2+ does not wash out with street light, it preforms very close to Gen3 with the typical halo/streaking from bright lights. Since it's autogated I'm not to concerned with damaging the tube in a dynamic situation should I have to go "Full Tilt Boogie" when the zombies attack. If I get time next week I'll make a thread and post some pics of what it looks like through my NODs. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 1:14:48 AM EDT
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I had one back in the day. Video i made with a cell phone in typical suburbia. Out in the country or deep in the woods an illuminator is definitely needed. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dblEaK2JDSM |
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