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Posted: 5/12/2016 1:13:21 AM EDT
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Looks awesome.
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Posted: 5/12/2016 2:49:53 AM EDT
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Welp... assuming theres a class 1 version, there's the next huge purchase I'll have to hide from my wife. And I just finally broke down and upgraded my I2 to an A3.
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Posted: 5/12/2016 2:54:49 AM EDT
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Welp... assuming theres a class 1 version, there's the next huge purchase I'll have to hide from my wife. And I just finally broke down and upgraded my I2 to an A3. 
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Posted: 5/12/2016 8:41:15 AM EDT
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Pretty decent run down on SSD this morning:
http://soldiersystems.net/2016/05/12/mawl/ It also as the magic words Civilian models are also planned for the future. I really hope this is better thought out than Wilcox's Civilian Variant. It needs the hi/lo and adjustability features of the Steiner units and a usable illuminator. Maybe by the time it exists I'll have the money to finally upgrade from my Vital 
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Posted: 5/12/2016 9:29:17 AM EDT
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Pretty decent run down on SSD this morning: http://soldiersystems.net/2016/05/12/mawl/ It also as the magic words I really hope this is better thought out than Wilcox's Civilian Variant. It needs the hi/lo and adjustability features of the Steiner units and a usable illuminator. Maybe by the time it exists I'll have the money to finally upgrade from my Vital Quote HistoryQuoted:
Pretty decent run down on SSD this morning: http://soldiersystems.net/2016/05/12/mawl/ It also as the magic words Civilian models are also planned for the future. I really hope this is better thought out than Wilcox's Civilian Variant. It needs the hi/lo and adjustability features of the Steiner units and a usable illuminator. Maybe by the time it exists I'll have the money to finally upgrade from my Vital VITAL is a nice unit, if you're not a southpaw! |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 9:40:15 AM EDT
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Finally, MAWL-DA is ambidextrous. Due to the modular design, the body can be reversed with the activation buttons right where you need them, at the top of the rail. It even knows if it is configured for right or left hand use, keeping the “A” button to the rear. Shutupandtakemymoney.jpg |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 9:54:51 AM EDT
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I bet its either 3K or the civi version sucks or both.
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Posted: 5/12/2016 10:11:17 AM EDT
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I spoke to Matt Meyers just a few Minutes ago, this thing looks extremely impressive, and there are future plans to release a class 1 civilian legal laser version in the works.
The quote I remember "When we demo it we show LA-5's and PEQ-15's first to show folks how much better this laser is" |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 10:45:47 AM EDT
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I spoke to Matt Meyers just a few Minutes ago, this thing looks extremely impressive, and there are future plans to release a class 1 civilian legal laser version in the works. The quote I remember "When we demo it we show LA-5's and PEQ-15's first to show folks how much better this laser is" 
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Posted: 5/12/2016 11:20:04 AM EDT
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I spoke to Matt Meyers just a few Minutes ago, this thing looks extremely impressive, and there are future plans to release a class 1 civilian legal laser version in the works. The quote I remember "When we demo it we show LA-5's and PEQ-15's first to show folks how much better this laser is" Devil's Advocate: It doesn't take much. 
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Posted: 5/12/2016 11:48:23 AM EDT
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that thing is sweet!
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:02:13 PM EDT
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Within VIS and IR there are three modes, Short Range, Mid Range, and Long Range. These names apply mostly to IR, as they simply raise the power of the green pointer as you go up. There is a thumb switch on the body that controls these modes. Intuitively, the further away you push the switch, the longer the range of the emitter. ...
Think Atilla! FINALLY, someone got it after all these years! 
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:04:13 PM EDT
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Within VIS and IR there are three modes, Short Range, Mid Range, and Long Range. These names apply mostly to IR, as they simply raise the power of the green pointer as you go up. There is a thumb switch on the body that controls these modes. Intuitively, the further away you push the switch, the longer the range of the emitter. ... Think Atilla! FINALLY, someone got it after all these years! Atillas FTW! |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:05:29 PM EDT
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That thing looks so awesome that it hurts. After posting in here, I went to bed and had a dream about it.
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:15:15 PM EDT
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Within VIS and IR there are three modes, Short Range, Mid Range, and Long Range. These names apply mostly to IR, as they simply raise the power of the green pointer as you go up. There is a thumb switch on the body that controls these modes. Intuitively, the further away you push the switch, the longer the range of the emitter. ... Think Atilla! FINALLY, someone got it after all these years! Hopefully it's not just glued in place on a low but not quite low enough power setting on the civilian version. |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:19:56 PM EDT
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looks sexy.
im in for one. my only complaint with my Atpial-c is the "fire" button is on top and I have small hands forcing me to use a tape switch. |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:39:05 PM EDT
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence?
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Posted: 5/12/2016 12:44:38 PM EDT
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? The pressure pad they're using in the promo photos is the Surefire dual switch that's been around for quite a few years. |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 4:49:42 PM EDT
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The pressure pad they're using in the promo photos is the Surefire dual switch that's been around for quite a few years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? The pressure pad they're using in the promo photos is the Surefire dual switch that's been around for quite a few years. Correct...Not TAPS. |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 5:15:21 PM EDT
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Looks good. Much better UI and more ergo package. Not really seeing to many negatives.
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Posted: 5/12/2016 10:52:56 PM EDT
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Looks good. Much better UI and more ergo package. Not really seeing to many negatives. Have you seen the price?
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Posted: 5/13/2016 1:01:53 AM EDT
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Looks good. Much better UI and more ergo package. Not really seeing to many negatives. Have you seen the price? Nope haven't seen the MSRP yet. But I do have 2 DBAL A2's and one is exclusively been used to exercise our Malinois
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Posted: 5/13/2016 6:48:46 AM EDT
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The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the power settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with.
The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light. |
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Posted: 5/13/2016 8:28:40 AM EDT
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The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the poser settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with. The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light.
Hopefully, the higher the settings the cooler my gear gets! |
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Posted: 5/13/2016 9:21:35 AM EDT
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The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the power settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with. The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light. Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. |
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Posted: 5/13/2016 9:52:18 AM EDT
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Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the power settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with. The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light. Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. Hopefully the "modular" part means you just need to focus on a replacement Class 1 "head" while leaving the rest of the unit as-is. |
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Posted: 5/13/2016 12:36:35 PM EDT
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The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the power settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with. The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light. Never said it was. The point I was trying to make (which is an EXTREME compliment), NOT an insult was the very aspect of a variable power device has never been done after the Atilla. IMHO and in MANY other folks we have worked with, this aspect alone has been hugely needed and no one has done it until now. I understand about the other aspects of your unit which are outstanding as well. Hope that helps. Also, (if you read the other two replies to this topic)...Yes it was explained on two occasions (one from me as well) that the switch is a Surefire and was not and is not the TNVC/Unity TAPS. Hope that helps as well. |
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Posted: 5/13/2016 5:53:06 PM EDT
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This, the DBAL-A4, and TAPs are on my short list.
Just waiting for them to hit the street. |
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Posted: 5/13/2016 10:42:11 PM EDT
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? I saw that and thought the same. But then reality stuck and I realized this will be out far before taps ever makes it out of r&d. 
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Posted: 5/14/2016 11:18:34 AM EDT
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I saw that and thought the same. But then reality stuck and I realized this will be out far before taps ever makes it out of r&d.
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? I saw that and thought the same. But then reality stuck and I realized this will be out far before taps ever makes it out of r&d.
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Posted: 5/14/2016 3:27:30 PM EDT
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? I saw that and thought the same. But then reality stuck and I realized this will be out far before taps ever makes it out of r&d.
Thanks for pushing it back further for us. 
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Posted: 5/16/2016 3:30:33 PM EDT
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I'm glad that I can finally breathe a sigh of relief now that this product has been made public!
It's undergone an immense amount of testing and revision since we first learned about it, and I've been bugging BE Meyers for a civilian version every month for the last year, haha. Furthermore, that seems to be the most common comment on the internet thus far. While the main target audience for the MAWL doesn't really go on the internet to talk guns and gear, I think the volume of requests for a Class 1 device has been noted 
Very proud of my friends at BEM for their hard work on this awesome device! PS: The first thought I had when I saw it was a Sci-Fi space ship. I confirmed with the designer exactly which ship inspired the external design haha. |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 4:29:43 PM EDT
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PS: The first thought I had when I saw it was a Sci-Fi space ship. I confirmed with the designer exactly which ship inspired the external design haha. My guess: USS Sulaco. Nuke 'em from orbit.
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Posted: 5/16/2016 5:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess: USS Sulaco. Nuke 'em from orbit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PS: The first thought I had when I saw it was a Sci-Fi space ship. I confirmed with the designer exactly which ship inspired the external design haha. My guess: USS Sulaco. Nuke 'em from orbit. |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 8:51:36 PM EDT
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If they had this as a civilian offering id put the cash out right now, that device is beautiful.
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Posted: 5/16/2016 8:57:08 PM EDT
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Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the power settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with. The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light. Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. Yes, yes, and finally yes. This is the first unit ive seen that just does it. Compact, ergonomic, its just.........right. This thing could blow up in the civilian market if its priced right, but id probably pay more for it than current offerings without batting an eye. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 1:53:46 AM EDT
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PS: The first thought I had when I saw it was a Sci-Fi space ship. I confirmed with the designer exactly which ship inspired the external design haha. My guess: USS Sulaco. Nuke 'em from orbit.
Common guess, but the main designer is a younger feller. UNSC Pillar of Autumn, Halcyon-class light cruiser 
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:02:58 AM EDT
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Common guess, but the main designer is a younger feller. UNSC Pillar of Autumn, Halcyon-class light cruiser  https://youtu.be/e6JK3fhYE1wQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Common guess, but the main designer is a younger feller. UNSC Pillar of Autumn, Halcyon-class light cruiser https://youtu.be/e6JK3fhYE1wThat makes me an old feller... LOL. Anyway, hope we get some more details/photos as SOFIC gets underway. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:32:28 AM EDT
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Pretty decent run down on SSD this morning: http://soldiersystems.net/2016/05/12/mawl/ It also as the magic words I really hope this is better thought out than Wilcox's Civilian Variant. It needs the hi/lo and adjustability features of the Steiner units and a usable illuminator. Maybe by the time it exists I'll have the money to finally upgrade from my Vital Quote HistoryQuoted:
Pretty decent run down on SSD this morning: http://soldiersystems.net/2016/05/12/mawl/ It also as the magic words Civilian models are also planned for the future. I really hope this is better thought out than Wilcox's Civilian Variant. It needs the hi/lo and adjustability features of the Steiner units and a usable illuminator. Maybe by the time it exists I'll have the money to finally upgrade from my Vital Cool, I like it. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:22:47 PM EDT
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Come on! Give us a ballpark price!
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:29:36 PM EDT
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Come on! Give us a ballpark price! $8787.87
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Posted: 5/18/2016 4:44:36 PM EDT
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That makes me an old feller... LOL. Anyway, hope we get some more details/photos as SOFIC gets underway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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PS: The first thought I had when I saw it was a Sci-Fi space ship. I confirmed with the designer exactly which ship inspired the external design haha. My guess: USS Sulaco. Nuke 'em from orbit.
Common guess, but the main designer is a younger feller. UNSC Pillar of Autumn, Halcyon-class light cruiser https://youtu.be/e6JK3fhYE1wThat makes me an old feller... LOL. Anyway, hope we get some more details/photos as SOFIC gets underway. It's kinda ironic that during development and testing for a year they'd bring it by my office for testing with various guns and accessories and I couldn't take a picture, but now that it's finally gone public, the crushing demand to get hands on for these has resulted in bingo MAWLs being available even for a cell phone snap LOL SOFIC's just 5 days away. I'm hoping I'll be able to get my paws on afterwards. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 9:04:05 PM EDT
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? I saw that and thought the same. But then reality stuck and I realized this will be out far before taps ever makes it out of r&d.
Thanks for pushing it back further for us. Naw, only for the ones who are the wize guys....FYI, units are going out to select testers so things are progressing quite nicely. A few of our crew who are attending SOFIC next week are really looking forward to seeing the MAWL. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 9:41:02 PM EDT
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Naw, only for the ones who are the wize guys....FYI, units are going out to select testers so things are progressing quite nicely. A few of our crew who are attending SOFIC next week are really looking forward to seeing the MAWL. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That pressure switch thing looks like that thing you and Unity made. Coincidence? I saw that and thought the same. But then reality stuck and I realized this will be out far before taps ever makes it out of r&d.
Thanks for pushing it back further for us. Naw, only for the ones who are the wize guys....FYI, units are going out to select testers so things are progressing quite nicely. A few of our crew who are attending SOFIC next week are really looking forward to seeing the MAWL. 
Seriously though, can't wait to get my hands on it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 10:12:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's kinda ironic that during development and testing for a year they'd bring it by my office for testing with various guns and accessories and I couldn't take a picture, but now that it's finally gone public, the crushing demand to get hands on for these has resulted in bingo MAWLs being available even for a cell phone snap LOL SOFIC's just 5 days away. I'm hoping I'll be able to get my paws on afterwards. Roy, You can live vicariously through me until you get your hands on it.  |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 2:15:10 AM EDT
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Roy, You can live vicariously through me until you get your hands on it. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s851x315/13220893_1066872573359411_8525453181680870773_n.jpg?oh=75bf870d72d65ffd2fcc9357f288da87&oe=57D20000 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's kinda ironic that during development and testing for a year they'd bring it by my office for testing with various guns and accessories and I couldn't take a picture, but now that it's finally gone public, the crushing demand to get hands on for these has resulted in bingo MAWLs being available even for a cell phone snap LOL SOFIC's just 5 days away. I'm hoping I'll be able to get my paws on afterwards. Roy, You can live vicariously through me until you get your hands on it. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s851x315/13220893_1066872573359411_8525453181680870773_n.jpg?oh=75bf870d72d65ffd2fcc9357f288da87&oe=57D20000 Damn. That thing is what dreams are made of. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 2:15:47 AM EDT
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Seriously though, can't wait to get my hands on it. Yeah... you knew he was talking to you lol. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 8:49:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The MAWL is like nothing else on the market or that has been on the market to include the Atilla. MAWL is a modular laser that is very user friendly to switch between the power settings, activate it, and, go from vis laser to ir. While yes we have been talking about a civilian version the current production models are limited to LE/Mil sales due to the current power settings they are shipping with. The switch in the photo is a surefire SR07-D-IT to be able to activate the laser and the light. Since someone from BE Meyers is here I'll give you my thoughts on a civilian version, which I'm sure will echo many of the others here. 1. If LDI/Steiner and Insight have shown anything it's there is a HUGE civilian market for IR lasers. 2. A civilian variant will significantly reduce the demand for black/grey market units, which your company is HUGE on combating. 3. Don't just glue the power level and beam adjustment switch to "low" (like the ATPIAL-C", make the power fully adjustable from the minimum to maximum allowed by law. Make the unit with the full functionality of the standard unit even though the power output levels will need to be lowered. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 11:11:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:22:09 AM EDT
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Bump, SOFIC starts today and hopefully we can keep this thread going with more info.
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