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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:10:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dolor]
[#1]
I guess I'm getting the short end of the stick
For a trust I got 3 Form 1 Efiles 3 Form 4 Paper Files 2 Form 1 Paper Files The closest one is from Silencer shop, bought 6-19. Hopefully soon. I just got another form 4 back, check cashed 6-7. All from before 41F. It's cool through I got more than enough to play with  .
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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:22:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lead-slinger]
[#2]
Trust form 4 AAC M4-2000.
Purchased 4-29-16 from SS. Form 4 submitted 6-8-16. Pending 6-17-16 Approved 3-17-17 Arrived at dealer? So far 322 days. Fixed pending date. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 8:22:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lead-slinger:
Trust form 4 AAC M4-2000. Purchased 4-29-16 from SS. Form 4 submitted 6-8-16. Pending 6-17-17. Approved 3-17-17 Arrived at dealer? So far 322 days. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 8:45:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Doesn't SS submit form 3 and form 4 at the same time? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By Lead-slinger:
Trust form 4 AAC M4-2000. Purchased 4-29-16 from SS. Form 4 submitted 6-8-16. Pending 6-17-16 Approved 3-17-17 Arrived at dealer? So far 322 days. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 11:54:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Form 4 (Trust) for a Centurion was pending as of 6/14 and approved on 3/16. Hope to see it soon.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2017 2:22:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Tactical Solutions Axiom from SS
Form 4 Trust Purchased - 5/2 Pending - not sure Check Cashed - 6/21 Approved - 3/16 Stamp received ?? |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 7:21:14 PM EDT
[#7]
1. NFA Item: Suppressor, Bowers Vers 30
2. Form Type: Form 3 -> Form 4 3. Transferee Type: NFA trust 4. Purchased: 5/06/2016 5. Check Cashed: 6/17/2016 6. Pending Date: 6/17/2016 7. Approved Date: 3/14/2017 8. Forms Received: 3/21/2017 1. NFA Item: Suppressor, Griffin Resistance 9 2. Form Type: Form 3 -> Form 4 3. Transferee Type: NFA trust 4. Purchased: 4/29/2016 5. Check Cashed: 6/16/2016 6. Pending Date: 6/16/2016 7. Approved Date: 3/17/2017 8. Forms Received: probably Friday 
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Posted: 3/21/2017 10:18:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ed:
1. NFA Item: Suppressor, Bowers Vers 30 2. Form Type: Form 3 -> Form 4 3. Transferee Type: NFA trust 4. Purchased: 5/06/2016 5. Check Cashed: 6/17/2016 6. Pending Date: 6/17/2016 7. Approved Date: 3/14/2017 8. Forms Received: 3/21/2017 319 Days 1. NFA Item: Suppressor, Griffin Resistance 9 2. Form Type: Form 3 -> Form 4 3. Transferee Type: NFA trust 4. Purchased: 4/29/2016 5. Check Cashed: 6/16/2016 6. Pending Date: 6/16/2016 7. Approved Date: 3/17/2017 8. Forms Received: probably Friday
322 Days 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 3:02:47 AM EDT
[#9]
two eForm 1s, (sbr's in trust)
Submitted both 6/29/2017 Approved both 3/21/2017 (Today!!!!) Hooray! |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:40:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Munzy]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spl1nter_c311:
two eForm 1s, (sbr's in trust) Submitted both 6/29/2017 Approved both 3/21/2017 (Today!!!!) Hooray! |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:59:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Form 4 Trust - AAC Cyclone
Pending 6/22/2016 Approved 3/21/2017 |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:13:52 PM EDT
[#12]
SBR Form 1 E-filed Trust
Submitted: 6/27/16 Approved: 3/22/17 Control #2016308XXX |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:28:00 AM EDT
[#13]
Suppressor
Form 4 Trust Mailed: 6/8/16 Check Cashed: 6/23/16 Stamp at Dealer: 3/22/17 9-1/2 months |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 10:16:14 AM EDT
[#14]
Finally, the day has come!
Two suppressors - Form 4 Corporate Purchase Date: 12/16/2015 Huge delay in getting the items transferred to my CIII Mail Date: 04/29/2016 Checks Cashed: 05/10/2016 Approval Date: 01/08/2017 Stamps Received: 03/22/2017 |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2017 6:11:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Paper form 4 trust
Suppressor Form mailed 6-10-2016 Approved 3-9-2017 Stamp arrived at dealer 3-23-2017 |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 6:17:58 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunz4me:
Finally, the day has come!
Two suppressors - Form 4 Corporate Purchase Date: 12/16/2015 Huge delay in getting the items transferred to my CIII Mail Date: 04/29/2016 Checks Cashed: 05/10/2016 Approval Date: 01/08/2017 Stamps Received: 03/22/2017  422 Total daze
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2017 7:03:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Doesn't SS submit form 3 and form 4 at the same time? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 7:10:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Form 4 - Trust - Suppressor
Mailed: 6/8/16 Approved: 3/12/17 Received: 3/22/17 3 more 4s and 2 more 1s to go... 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 11:30:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TRDFurgesson:
The form 3 has to be approved before the form 4 can be submitted. I had two form 3's from SS approved in the middle of Feb when the cans were purchased in the beginning of Jan. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 12:20:28 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith:
422 Total daze
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USA
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:29:59 AM EDT
[#21]
Just got approved for a Form 1 submitted by eForms.
Submitted: 7/1/2016 Approved: 3/24/2017 About 9 months. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 1:10:40 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex:
Just got approved for a Form 1 submitted by eForms. Submitted: 7/1/2016 Approved: 3/24/2017 About 9 months. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 2:00:35 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YukonBoy03:
And we have entered JULY!!! It means that pretty soon I will be submitting Form 1's for SBR's and getting them back in an amount of time I can actually stand lol |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 3:06:45 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex:
Just got approved for a Form 1 submitted by eForms. Submitted: 7/1/2016 Approved: 3/24/2017 About 9 months.  266 Days! 38 Weeks! 
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Posted: 3/24/2017 4:16:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sh1fty]
[#25]
Approved today!
eFile Form1 Submitted - 7/2/17 Approved - 3/24/16 Control# 20163180XX 
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Posted: 3/24/2017 4:47:59 PM EDT
[#26]
Glad to see July's starting to appear!
I have 2 F4 suppressors submitted 7-4 and one F1 E-filed 7-10. Control 20163297xx |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 8:46:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hater:
Depositing the money is done by a contractor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hater:
Originally Posted By mstennes:
ETA, the government is pretty damn efficient when it comes to collecting and cashing........ 
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:17:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TRDFurgesson:
The form 3 has to be approved before the form 4 can be submitted. I had two form 3's from SS approved in the middle of Feb when the cans were purchased in the beginning of Jan.
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:19:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#29]
Had a local dealer post this earlier in the week:
SO got bunch a whole stack of stamps, all were dated late May up to June 17th. Approved Mid March 2017. Sources tell me wait time will jump in the next week or so to 12 months and maybe to 18 months. They have close to 400k forms sitting in the queue waiting to be processed that all hit right before 41F. We'll see... |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 1:45:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Had a local dealer post this earlier in the week: SO got bunch a whole stack of stamps, all were dated late May up to June 17th. Approved Mid March 2017. Sources tell me wait time will jump in the next week or so to 12 months and maybe to 18 months. They have close to 400k forms sitting in the queue waiting to be processed that all hit right before 41F. We'll see... |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 6:14:36 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Had a local dealer post this earlier in the week: SO got bunch a whole stack of stamps, all were dated late May up to June 17th. Approved Mid March 2017. Sources tell me wait time will jump in the next week or so to 12 months and maybe to 18 months. They have close to 400k forms sitting in the queue waiting to be processed that all hit right before 41F. We'll see... |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:26:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
Glad to see July's starting to appear! I have 2 F4 suppressors submitted 7-4 and one F1 E-filed 7-10. Control 20163297xx |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 9:27:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Had a local dealer post this earlier in the week: SO got bunch a whole stack of stamps, all were dated late May up to June 17th. Approved Mid March 2017. Sources tell me wait time will jump in the next week or so to 12 months and maybe to 18 months. They have close to 400k forms sitting in the queue waiting to be processed that all hit right before 41F. We'll see... |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 10:36:15 AM EDT
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I wouldn't be surprised if that "local dealer" was spot on about his expectations. There was an enormous amount of discussion about the new rules, and several forums I visit were extremely busy with people asking for last-minute instruction and advice on Form 1 submissions.
I firmly believe that NFA Tracker badly underreports the actual number of submissions because the NFA "community" has become so much bigger so quickly that most submissions don't get entered. I also believe that this keeps NFA Tracker from accurately reporting times, (although I think it'll be in the right ballpark) because of what I expect to be an insane number of submissions just before or at the deadline - a very large portion of which would not be entered in NFA Tracker. And honestly, I haven't ever even created an account there, so my own submissions and stamps aren't part of the mix. Whatever the actual situation winds up being, we'll definitely see slower approval times as the NFA Branch gets to later and later submissions, just because of the volume. What I wonder about now is how slow NEW submissions are going to be...whether it's even worth starting the process at the moment, or maybe waiting until next year (and saving my money) to buy a commercial can.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 4:51:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FatboyFudd]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Had a local dealer post this earlier in the week: SO got bunch a whole stack of stamps, all were dated late May up to June 17th. Approved Mid March 2017. Sources tell me wait time will jump in the next week or so to 12 months and maybe to 18 months. They have close to 400k forms sitting in the queue waiting to be processed that all hit right before 41F. We'll see... That's 43,400 control numbers for efiled Form 1s over the 23 day period. ATF may have a $hitload of paper Form 4s as well that probably accounts for the number quoted by your dealer (the Silencer Shop truckload of paper), but I'm pretty certain that efiled Form 1s are at the level which I've described above. FYI, right now, ATF is banging through about 680 of those Form 1 apps per day, so check your control number and calculate out from the July 2nd approval of control number 3180xx to see when your stamp will pop up. For me, assuming no changes to current daily production by ATF, it's 64 days from when sh1fty's got approved on March 24th (calculates out to May 27th for mine). |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 5:12:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jp660605]
[#36]
I'm still waiting on two Form 1's from 06/30/16 and 07/02/16. Looks like I need to call tomorrow and see whats going on. Both were eforms.
Update: Just received the approval on my 7/2/16 Form 1. Still nothing on the 6/30/16 Form 1, looks like I need to check with the ATF tomorrow on it. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:18:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FatboyFudd:
I'm not sure that your dealer completely understands how the forms are processed. We know that July 2 submissions are assigned control numbers in the 3180xx as reported by sh1fty above. I have a efiled Form 1 from July 4th that went from Pending Research to SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS and was assigned control number 3614xx on July 27th. That's 43,400 control numbers for efiled Form 1s over the 23 day period. ATF may have a $hitload of paper Form 4s as well that probably accounts for the number quoted by your dealer (the Silencer Shop truckload of paper), but I'm pretty certain that efiled Form 1s are at the level which I've described above. FYI, right now, ATF is banging through about 680 of those Form 1 apps per day, so check your control number and calculate out from the July 2nd approval of control number 3180xx to see when your stamp will pop up. For me, assuming no changes to current daily production by ATF, it's 64 days from when sh1fty's got approved on March 24th (calculates out to May 27th for mine). 1. He's not "my dealer"...I've never bought a thing from him 2. F1s are not the only forms in eForms 3. eFiled F1s have very little to do with paper F4s (which is what he was receiving) 4. The dealer wasn't trying to understand any of the process...he was simply passing along info the ATF gave him This is not the eForms tracking thread...so don't get hung up on control numbers. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 8:25:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Called NFA few minutes ago, my 6/17/2016 trust silencer was approved last week on 3/23.
Now I need to get that phone call from MAC. 6/28 still pending :(. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 8:55:13 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DuneShoot:
one F1 E-filed 7-10. Control 20163297xx Your 7/10 is -329700 My 7/27 is -359300 Note: I used 00 just for easier to calculate. Mine was created on 7/01, pending research till after I sent pictures of the receiver requested by NFA, was pushed to pending on 7/27. I'm not sure about how many pending research were there by the cut off date, but that's a lot for 2 days, almost 30k applications. |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 9:53:32 AM EDT
[#40]
30K in 2 days, wow!
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 12:18:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Silencer Shop purchased suppressor 5/18/16
Picked it up at local shop 3/24/17 310 days |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 1:14:16 PM EDT
[#42]
Form 4 Trust
Griffen 30SD Purchased: 6/10/16 Check Cashed: 6/16/16 Approved: 3/21/17 Arrived at dealer: 3/27/17 |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 3:24:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Two e-file form 1s
Submitted: 7-1 Received: 3-27 Control #: 2016317XXX One came back early this morning, the other about 30minutes ago. Both control numbers were about 70 apart. 
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:47:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PoM_Pyro]
[#44]
Just had 2 Form 1, e-files approved today
271 Days; 8 months, 28 days Submitted 07/02/16 Approved 03/29/17 2016318xxx Both were submitted within minutes of each other and the control numbers are 8 apart, yet the one with the later control number was approved first; The one with the lower control number came in 2 hours later. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 1:45:50 PM EDT
[#45]
Anyone know on average how long it takes to get a certified copy of stamp from ATF? Had to request one and just curious if anyone has had experience with this.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:05:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: captainpooby]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waywaup:
Let's see, the cut off date was 7/12. Your 7/10 is -329700 My 7/27 is -359300 Note: I used 00 just for easier to calculate. Mine was created on 7/01, pending research till after I sent pictures of the receiver requested by NFA, was pushed to pending on 7/27. I'm not sure about how many pending research were there by the cut off date, but that's a lot for 2 days, almost 30k applications. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waywaup:
Originally Posted By DuneShoot:
one F1 E-filed 7-10. Control 20163297xx Your 7/10 is -329700 My 7/27 is -359300 Note: I used 00 just for easier to calculate. Mine was created on 7/01, pending research till after I sent pictures of the receiver requested by NFA, was pushed to pending on 7/27. I'm not sure about how many pending research were there by the cut off date, but that's a lot for 2 days, almost 30k applications. ETA: My control number is 3879xx that's 28,600 from July 27 to Aug 9 |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:39:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fredegar]
[#47]
Efile Trust SBS
Submitted: 7/1/2016 Approved: 03/29/2017 271 days I'll add my control number once eforms is back up after 6pm EST ETA: control #3176xx |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 4:54:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Form 4 trust, Silencero Hybrid
Purchased 3/9/16 Transferred to dealer 6/5/16 Pending 6/15/16 Approved 3/27/17 Stamp at dealer ? |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:23:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VT2A:
Form 4 trust, Silencero Hybrid Purchased 3/9/16 Transferred to dealer 6/5/16 Pending 6/15/16 Approved 3/27/17 Stamp at dealer ? My Form 3 was submitted on 3/29/16 and I picked my can up 3 days ago |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 10:26:50 AM EDT
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