Ordered a Chinese Type 53 from SOG today

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Ordered a Chinese Type 53 from SOG today

Posted: 1/13/2013 4:46:41 PM EDT

My second C&R purchase. I figured that since I had some ammo that was in a box I bought at a garage sale I might as well have something to shoot it with.

What's the consensus on the 53? I know it is not a true Mosin and will probably never be worth much more than the $100.00 that I paid but is the workmanship on par with the others?

Anyone bought one of these from SOG? I took the hand pick option in the hopes of getting one in decent shape but how decent am I looking at?

Posted: 1/13/2013 5:49:34 PM EDT

[#1]

I have one that I bought in the early-mid 90's. It works just fine. It's as solid as any other Mosin out there.

Posted: 1/13/2013 5:50:42 PM EDT

[#2]

Post pictures when you get it!

Posted: 1/13/2013 6:05:45 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Post pictures when you get it!

Will do.
Along with the M57 I promised pics of.

Posted: 1/13/2013 6:55:38 PM EDT

[#4]

Is that the same SOG thats in Houston Texas?

Posted: 1/13/2013 8:32:39 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Is that the same SOG thats in Houston Texas?

Southern Ohio Gun.

Posted: 1/13/2013 8:39:10 PM EDT

[#6]

Type 53s are just as good or better compared to a Russian M44. They do tend to be in much rougher condition though.

Posted: 1/15/2013 9:35:55 AM EDT

[#7]

Here are some pics of my hand-pick Type 53 from SOG. I haven't touched it since purchase. Too busy lol! Mine could've been a pinch nicer for a hand-pick. Metal looks ok. There's a little pitting here and there. HH carved in the stock and some nice gouges as well. I bought mine before the price drop down to $99 (from $119), so I was a little annoyed about it being a $145 purchase vs $125 purchase. Oh well...

Posted: 1/15/2013 10:46:15 AM EDT

[#8]

That looks pretty typical for this batch of Type 53s. Should be a good shooter... and even at $119 still a pretty good deal for what it is.

Posted: 1/15/2013 4:38:55 PM EDT

[#9]

That probably was hand pick of what they had left. They have been around a while, so Im sure they dont have a ton left. None of them were in excellent condition to begin with.

Posted: 1/15/2013 5:54:00 PM EDT

[#10]

I will be satisfied with decent steel, good bore, and a stock in one piece.
I can always re-finish the stock.

Posted: 1/15/2013 6:09:44 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
I will be satisfied with decent steel, good bore, and a stock in one piece.
I can always re-finish the stock.

Mine was from AIM last summer. Not sure if that's the same batch or not. All numbers are matching. Metal is very good to excellent. Wood is beat up but solid. Bore looks great, action is smooth, and the trigger feels as good as any non-Finn Mosin. I think it's a better rifle than my 1944 M44, although the M44 does look nicer at a glance. Cross your fingers, I think you stand a good chance of getting what you want.

-Jay

Posted: 1/16/2013 9:19:37 AM EDT

[#12]

I just got a "dealer" account set up on SOG, thinking about ordering another 53 I like the price. What do they charge for shipping?

Posted: 1/16/2013 9:44:41 AM EDT

[#13]

Two I had in early 90's were junk. I would swallow no-go gauge.

Hopefully, they got better ones now.

Posted: 1/16/2013 4:07:41 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
I just got a "dealer" account set up on SOG, thinking about ordering another 53 I like the price. What do they charge for shipping?

It was $19.50 for shipping.

Posted: 1/16/2013 4:13:33 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I just got a "dealer" account set up on SOG, thinking about ordering another 53 I like the price. What do they charge for shipping?

It was $19.50 for shipping.

Thanks.

Posted: 1/16/2013 5:20:56 PM EDT

[#16]

Also although not "true" mosins they are licensed copies and from what I understand tooled on the same Russian machines

Posted: 1/22/2013 6:52:02 PM EDT

[#17]

I got one from SOG today. Lots of rust, dented sight hood, wood better than my other one, bore actually looks nice and shiny, receiver matching buttplate but thats it.

Posted: 1/22/2013 7:00:43 PM EDT

[#18]

Got it today. Metal is in good shape bore is shiny and stock is beat up and dirty but not cracked. Action is very smooth. After disassembly I found a lot of old cosmoline under the wood so I cleaned it up. The only pitting is three pinhead sized spots on the top of the barrel. I think I will clean up the stock and see how she shoots.

Posted: 1/22/2013 7:23:04 PM EDT

[#19]

Good deal sounds like I should have done hand pick!

Posted: 1/23/2013 4:01:12 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Good deal sounds like I should have done hand pick!

It is ten dollars well spent.
I did the same when I ordered my M57. The thing lookes as if it had never been fired. Not a scratch on it.

Posted: 1/24/2013 8:52:04 AM EDT

[#21]

I ordered one today (24th) for the hell of it. I don't care if it looks like hell, just as long as it is sound.

Posted: 1/24/2013 9:43:50 AM EDT

[#22]

I ordered one last Saturday. I am supposed to receive it tomorrow. If nothing else, I am impressed with how fast SOG shipped.

Posted: 1/24/2013 9:49:17 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Also although not "true" mosins they are licensed copies and from what I understand tooled on the same Russian machines

They are pretty true from what I've read the Russians sold the Chinese a turnkey factory to make them. All the tooling for Type 53's (MN M44) and Type 56's (SKS) was Russian made initially, although the Chinese apparently cloned the tooling so they could make more than what the Russian made factory could turn out. Eventually the Russians got upset that the Chinese were copying their stuff beyond what the original agreements were to the point where apparently the Chinese were selling not just finished materials but even factories to the North Koreans and North Vietnamese.

Posted: 1/24/2013 10:03:27 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
I ordered one last Saturday. I am supposed to receive it tomorrow. If nothing else, I am impressed with how fast SOG shipped.

Post up some pics when you get it. Did you do the handpick or not?

Posted: 1/24/2013 12:25:00 PM EDT

[#25]

I picked one up locally here this week. I picked over four of them before I found one I liked. When I got it home, I checked the firing pin with the tool that came with my 91-30, and it was set way too deep.That is an easy fix though.

Accuracy was pretty much what I expected, but considering I was shooting in poor conditions (near 0F, windy, goofy range setup), I'm sure it is capable of tighter groups.

Posted: 1/25/2013 12:56:13 PM EDT

[#26]

Got mine from SOG when hey first got them. Paid ?160? And did the hand select. Stock was still in poor condition but the bore was very nice and the action smooth. Shoots well and was still worth the cash. If I hadn't blown my gun budget I might pick up a second with the price drop.

Posted: 1/26/2013 9:11:14 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
I ordered one last Saturday. I am supposed to receive it tomorrow. If nothing else, I am impressed with how fast SOG shipped.

Did it get delivered?

Posted: 1/26/2013 11:41:25 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I ordered one last Saturday. I am supposed to receive it tomorrow. If nothing else, I am impressed with how fast SOG shipped.

Did it get delivered?

It did but I haven't had much chance to look at it. It is dated 1954.4 and has all matching serial numbers except for the bolt. As expected, there was no cleaning rod and the stock looked rough, although I didn't see any cracks. Bolt and trigger felt smooth. But I haven't had a chance to give it a thorough look though.

ETA: Bore looks decent besided the cosmoline. Not much bluing. I haven't seen any rust yet, but i won't know for sure until I get the stock off.

Posted: 1/28/2013 5:23:14 PM EDT

[#29]

^
Any updates, pics...

Posted: 1/28/2013 6:51:56 PM EDT

[#30]

Damn AR15.com, you wore me down and I ordered one. Will give a report when I get it. Went for the hand pick.

Posted: 1/28/2013 6:56:41 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Damn AR15.com, you wore me down and I ordered one. Will give a report when I get it. Went for the hand pick.

From SOG or somewhere else?

Posted: 1/28/2013 7:03:48 PM EDT

[#32]

SOG

Posted: 1/29/2013 3:30:11 AM EDT

[#33]

everyones been snagging these from sog, i guess for 99bucks i should. Been worried about getting a bad bore and rusty one, saw one guy got a trials rifle recently from sog.

Posted: 1/29/2013 11:14:11 AM EDT

[#34]

I took apart the one I got last Friday (see a couple of posts up). It was from SOG with the handpick option. I still need to clean all the gunk on it, but I didn't see any rust at all.

Posted: 1/29/2013 5:37:48 PM EDT

[#35]

Dammit.....the brown truck came earlier than normal today. All I got was a door tag

. My wife is preggers and usually home, but today she went out just for an short while and that just happened to be when the damn truck came by

Posted: 1/29/2013 6:36:55 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
^
Any updates, pics...

Will do pics this weekend.

Gotta set up a new photobucket account iI guess.

Posted: 1/29/2013 6:37:43 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
Damn AR15.com, you wore me down and I ordered one. Will give a report when I get it. Went for the hand pick.

I don't think you will be disappointed.

Posted: 1/29/2013 8:25:11 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn AR15.com, you wore me down and I ordered one. Will give a report when I get it. Went for the hand pick.

I don't think you will be disappointed.

All I want is good barrel and no cracks in the wood (dont care if it looks like hell though)

Posted: 1/30/2013 6:20:34 PM EDT

[#39]

Picked it up tonight. The wood look solid with a little chewed up spots here and there, but no cracks

The bolt and floor plate don't match the receiver.
The bore looks pretty damn good, so I am happy

1955m Factory 26

Looks worse than it is

Y'all were not lying when y'all said these things smell.....what in the hell did those commie bastards put on this thing

Posted: 1/31/2013 3:06:08 PM EDT

[#40]

Overall I am satisfied.The bore looks ok, need some more grease removal to be sure. The bolt handle has a spot of rust/pitting on top, but the rifle blueing is in great shape, no rust and great blue finish. The stock is rough, especially the bottom. Looks like it was in a crate with a loose fit and slid back and forth over many many miles. it will sand out ok I think.

Edit: I just finished breaking it down and cleaning it some more. There was some rust on the receiver under the stock that left a little pitting when cleaned up. Also a spot or two on the barrel with some rust that clean off leaving some pitting. Still happy with it.

The numbers match as I see now. The bolt has a small triangle on it. What is the correct mark for a chinese bolt?

Posted: 1/31/2013 6:55:32 PM EDT

[#41]

Does any one know if the M91/30 stocks that aim surplus has would/could be fit for these? Obviously, I know the M91/30 is longer but besides the handguards would it be an easy fit?

Posted: 2/1/2013 3:20:53 PM EDT

[#42]

They are different stocks.

Posted: 2/2/2013 1:30:37 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
Does any one know if the M91/30 stocks that aim surplus has would/could be fit for these? Obviously, I know the M91/30 is longer but besides the handguards would it be an easy fit?

You need the M44 stock. (I think))

Posted: 2/4/2013 9:02:36 PM EDT

[#44]

What do y'all think is the best way to get the nasty crap off the stock?

Posted: 2/9/2013 9:46:18 PM EDT

[#45]

I guess these came here through Albania like the type 56 SKS carbines that century arms got in a while back

I think "Syrja" is common name there. On the butt stock of my 53, I found this when I got off the crap:

Posted: 2/10/2013 11:47:46 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn AR15.com, you wore me down and I ordered one. Will give a report when I get it. Went for the hand pick.

I don't think you will be disappointed.

Ordered mine tonight - looks like you can't go wrong for $100

I went for the hand pick as well

Posted: 2/11/2013 5:15:06 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
I guess these came here through Albania like the type 56 SKS carbines that century arms got in a while back

I think "Syrja" is common name there. On the butt stock of my 53, I found this when I got off the crap:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-14668-1360470086134_zpsce9ec4e2.jpg

Someone over at Gunboards found an Albanian-language news article discussing the sale of a bunch of Type 53s to Century Arms International, so it's pretty much confirmed these are from Albania.

Posted: 2/11/2013 8:23:25 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I guess these came here through Albania like the type 56 SKS carbines that century arms got in a while back

I think "Syrja" is common name there. On the butt stock of my 53, I found this when I got off the crap:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-14668-1360470086134_zpsce9ec4e2.jpg

Someone over at Gunboards found an Albanian-language news article discussing the sale of a bunch of Type 53s to Century Arms International, so it's pretty much confirmed these are from Albania.

Well, it will have an Albanian buddy then. I have a Sino-Soviet Type 56 that spent a little time in Albania on the way from Century.

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