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I'm waiting to pick up one in 22wmr, with threaded bbl. The only rifle not threaded for a suppressor is my 39A Golden with HB
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I'm waiting to pick up one in 22wmr, with threaded bbl. The only rifle not threaded for a suppressor is my 39A Golden with HB http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_11/426003_Ruger_American_Rimfire_opinions.html View Quote Wait no longer :) |
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I'm waiting to pick up one in 22wmr, with threaded bbl. The only rifle not threaded for a suppressor is my 39A Golden with HB http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_11/426003_Ruger_American_Rimfire_opinions.html Wait no longer :) Yep, I bought one from Cheaper than Dirt this week for $250, the compact, but they have the standard as well. It's replacing my Henry. |
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Yep, I bought one from Cheaper than Dirt this week for $250, the compact, but they have the standard as well. It's replacing my Henry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm waiting to pick up one in 22wmr, with threaded bbl. The only rifle not threaded for a suppressor is my 39A Golden with HB http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_11/426003_Ruger_American_Rimfire_opinions.html Wait no longer :) Yep, I bought one from Cheaper than Dirt this week for $250, the compact, but they have the standard as well. It's replacing my Henry. I paid around $300 out the door (including tax and transfer fee). I was pleasantly surprised that Ruger offered a threaded barrel in a full length stock configuration and not only on the compact model. What is even cooler is that if you decide you want the full length stock, you can order one for $19.95 from the Ruger website and turn your compact into what I have. I am 6'4" and prefer a longer stock, but if I was going to have kids shoot it (or short people), I could buy the compact stock inserts What I do not understand why Ruger is still making the 77/22. Doubt it is going to be twice the rifle even though it costs at least twice as much. |
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What I do not understand why Ruger is still making the 77/22. Doubt it is going to be twice the rifle even though it costs at least twice as much. View Quote The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. For practical purposes, your American will kill squirrels just as dead, but the 77/22 has a bit more style and a lot more craftsmanship built into it. They're products of two totally different concepts. One is a cheap mass produced disposable rifle that is built to be effective and economical. The other is built to last for generations and look good doing so. Both have a legit place in the market. There are a couple of guys shooting 77/22s at my club in our silhouette matches. They are very nice rifles, and one of them is always near the top of the standings. A couple guys have recently brought out Ruger Americans. Meh, they do their job, but they don't have any soul next to their big brothers. Nor do they shoot as well. There's no comparison between the two when you see them side by side. Think Remington 700 BDL next to a Remington 710. |
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The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. For practical purposes, your American will kill squirrels just as dead, but the 77/22 has a bit more style and a lot more craftsmanship built into it. They're products of two totally different concepts. One is a cheap mass produced disposable rifle that is built to be effective and economical. The other is built to last for generations and look good doing so. Both have a legit place in the market. There are a couple of guys shooting 77/22s at my club in our silhouette matches. They are very nice rifles, and one of them is always near the top of the standings. A couple guys have recently brought out Ruger Americans. Meh, they do their job, but they don't have any soul next to their big brothers. Nor do they shoot as well. There's no comparison between the two when you see them side by side. Think Remington 700 BDL next to a Remington 710. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
What I do not understand why Ruger is still making the 77/22. Doubt it is going to be twice the rifle even though it costs at least twice as much. The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. For practical purposes, your American will kill squirrels just as dead, but the 77/22 has a bit more style and a lot more craftsmanship built into it. They're products of two totally different concepts. One is a cheap mass produced disposable rifle that is built to be effective and economical. The other is built to last for generations and look good doing so. Both have a legit place in the market. There are a couple of guys shooting 77/22s at my club in our silhouette matches. They are very nice rifles, and one of them is always near the top of the standings. A couple guys have recently brought out Ruger Americans. Meh, they do their job, but they don't have any soul next to their big brothers. Nor do they shoot as well. There's no comparison between the two when you see them side by side. Think Remington 700 BDL next to a Remington 710. Frankly, that sounds...well, like you're talkin out of your ass. I don't doubt that they are nicer, but I notice that you haven't mentioned the scoring difference between the two. And someone that has a brand new rifle is nore likely to be a new shooter as well. jmho |
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I have a early Ruger 77/22 and one of the new Ruger Americans with the factory threaded barrel. The 77/22 is blued with a walnut stock that I installed a Volquartsen sear in, looks and shoots great and is one of my favorite 22s. The American does not look as nice but will shoot as good of groups as the 77 with most ammo and sometimes better.
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Frankly, that sounds...well, like you're talkin out of your ass. I don't doubt that they are nicer, but I notice that you haven't mentioned the scoring difference between the two. And someone that has a brand new rifle is nore likely to be a new shooter as well. jmho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What I do not understand why Ruger is still making the 77/22. Doubt it is going to be twice the rifle even though it costs at least twice as much. The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. For practical purposes, your American will kill squirrels just as dead, but the 77/22 has a bit more style and a lot more craftsmanship built into it. They're products of two totally different concepts. One is a cheap mass produced disposable rifle that is built to be effective and economical. The other is built to last for generations and look good doing so. Both have a legit place in the market. There are a couple of guys shooting 77/22s at my club in our silhouette matches. They are very nice rifles, and one of them is always near the top of the standings. A couple guys have recently brought out Ruger Americans. Meh, they do their job, but they don't have any soul next to their big brothers. Nor do they shoot as well. There's no comparison between the two when you see them side by side. Think Remington 700 BDL next to a Remington 710. Frankly, that sounds...well, like you're talkin out of your ass. I don't doubt that they are nicer, but I notice that you haven't mentioned the scoring difference between the two. And someone that has a brand new rifle is nore likely to be a new shooter as well. jmho |
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Frankly, that sounds...well, like you're talkin out of your ass. I don't doubt that they are nicer, but I notice that you haven't mentioned the scoring difference between the two. And someone that has a brand new rifle is nore likely to be a new shooter as well. jmho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What I do not understand why Ruger is still making the 77/22. Doubt it is going to be twice the rifle even though it costs at least twice as much. The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. For practical purposes, your American will kill squirrels just as dead, but the 77/22 has a bit more style and a lot more craftsmanship built into it. They're products of two totally different concepts. One is a cheap mass produced disposable rifle that is built to be effective and economical. The other is built to last for generations and look good doing so. Both have a legit place in the market. There are a couple of guys shooting 77/22s at my club in our silhouette matches. They are very nice rifles, and one of them is always near the top of the standings. A couple guys have recently brought out Ruger Americans. Meh, they do their job, but they don't have any soul next to their big brothers. Nor do they shoot as well. There's no comparison between the two when you see them side by side. Think Remington 700 BDL next to a Remington 710. Frankly, that sounds...well, like you're talkin out of your ass. I don't doubt that they are nicer, but I notice that you haven't mentioned the scoring difference between the two. And someone that has a brand new rifle is nore likely to be a new shooter as well. jmho Scoring differences are really more on the shooter than the gun in the silhouette game. Just about any bolt action .22 is capable of hitting the targets at the various ranges. I'd be more interested in seeing a sheet or three of ARA bench rest targets shot with both rifles by the same shooter using a solid rest. One of the 77/22s in our club is shot by a AAA shooter who is consistently near the top of everyone. The other 77/22 is a AA that stays firmly in AA land. One of the American rifles is a new toy for an older guy who wanted a rifle to fit in the hunter class and get away from his standard rifle and save some weight. He's definitely not a new shooter, but I take his word that his new rifle leaves him wanting a bit more from it, but he tempers his own complaints considering what he paid for his rifle. Where the price difference comes in on the 77/22 is the nice factor. That's what I was getting at. Not trying to run down the American or anyone who owns one. I'm certainly glad to see some stuff coming out that's inexpensive and effective enough to bring new people into the sport without breaking them. Like I said, comparing the two side by side leaves one looking like a basic entry level rifle, and one looking like a well built and aesthetically pleasing rifle for someone wanting that, which is exactly what both are. Performance being similar, the parts and fit/finish is where the cost difference is. If I wanted a gun I didn't mind beating up and not pay much for it, the American would be near the top of my list. If I wanted one to last and to be taken care of, and to look and feel nice, the American would never enter the conversation. Even then, there are other options I'd take over the 77/22, but it's a fine looking and shooting gun. I wasn't trying to ruffle anyone's feathers after you bought your American. |
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Scoring differences are really more on the shooter than the gun in the silhouette game. Just about any bolt action .22 is capable of hitting the targets at the various ranges. I'd be more interested in seeing a sheet or three of ARA bench rest targets shot with both rifles by the same shooter using a solid rest. One of the 77/22s in our club is shot by a AAA shooter who is consistently near the top of everyone. The other 77/22 is a AA that stays firmly in AA land. One of the American rifles is a new toy for an older guy who wanted a rifle to fit in the hunter class and get away from his standard rifle and save some weight. He's definitely not a new shooter, but I take his word that his new rifle leaves him wanting a bit more from it, but he tempers his own complaints considering what he paid for his rifle. Where the price difference comes in on the 77/22 is the nice factor. That's what I was getting at. Not trying to run down the American or anyone who owns one. I'm certainly glad to see some stuff coming out that's inexpensive and effective enough to bring new people into the sport without breaking them. Like I said, comparing the two side by side leaves one looking like a basic entry level rifle, and one looking like a well built and aesthetically pleasing rifle for someone wanting that, which is exactly what both are. Performance being similar, the parts and fit/finish is where the cost difference is. If I wanted a gun I didn't mind beating up and not pay much for it, the American would be near the top of my list. If I wanted one to last and to be taken care of, and to look and feel nice, the American would never enter the conversation. Even then, there are other options I'd take over the 77/22, but it's a fine looking and shooting gun. I wasn't trying to ruffle anyone's feathers after you bought your American. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What I do not understand why Ruger is still making the 77/22. Doubt it is going to be twice the rifle even though it costs at least twice as much. The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. For practical purposes, your American will kill squirrels just as dead, but the 77/22 has a bit more style and a lot more craftsmanship built into it. They're products of two totally different concepts. One is a cheap mass produced disposable rifle that is built to be effective and economical. The other is built to last for generations and look good doing so. Both have a legit place in the market. There are a couple of guys shooting 77/22s at my club in our silhouette matches. They are very nice rifles, and one of them is always near the top of the standings. A couple guys have recently brought out Ruger Americans. Meh, they do their job, but they don't have any soul next to their big brothers. Nor do they shoot as well. There's no comparison between the two when you see them side by side. Think Remington 700 BDL next to a Remington 710. Frankly, that sounds...well, like you're talkin out of your ass. I don't doubt that they are nicer, but I notice that you haven't mentioned the scoring difference between the two. And someone that has a brand new rifle is nore likely to be a new shooter as well. jmho Scoring differences are really more on the shooter than the gun in the silhouette game. Just about any bolt action .22 is capable of hitting the targets at the various ranges. I'd be more interested in seeing a sheet or three of ARA bench rest targets shot with both rifles by the same shooter using a solid rest. One of the 77/22s in our club is shot by a AAA shooter who is consistently near the top of everyone. The other 77/22 is a AA that stays firmly in AA land. One of the American rifles is a new toy for an older guy who wanted a rifle to fit in the hunter class and get away from his standard rifle and save some weight. He's definitely not a new shooter, but I take his word that his new rifle leaves him wanting a bit more from it, but he tempers his own complaints considering what he paid for his rifle. Where the price difference comes in on the 77/22 is the nice factor. That's what I was getting at. Not trying to run down the American or anyone who owns one. I'm certainly glad to see some stuff coming out that's inexpensive and effective enough to bring new people into the sport without breaking them. Like I said, comparing the two side by side leaves one looking like a basic entry level rifle, and one looking like a well built and aesthetically pleasing rifle for someone wanting that, which is exactly what both are. Performance being similar, the parts and fit/finish is where the cost difference is. If I wanted a gun I didn't mind beating up and not pay much for it, the American would be near the top of my list. If I wanted one to last and to be taken care of, and to look and feel nice, the American would never enter the conversation. Even then, there are other options I'd take over the 77/22, but it's a fine looking and shooting gun. I wasn't trying to ruffle anyone's feathers after you bought your American. No doubt, and no jimmies ruffled here. |
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The 77/22 is way more of a rifle than the American. Wood, usually pretty decent wood at that, or a laminate stock that you can't get on the American, a good trigger than can be made great with a little bit of effort, a very accurate barrel, a full size build, and a lot better fit, finish, and attention to detail make it cost a lot more. This i agree with. My 77/22 also converted to 22mag (both threaded bbls) is too nice a piece of furniture to be out an about with. Considering what they go for (used early production model) vs what i paid for it, $250, with factory rings and redfield 4x scope. I use any number of lower priced, but competent rifles when it's range time. The RAR threaded would fill a void, or so i say when spending money on any firearm. |
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It will probably be my next .22 rifle if I don't get a 10/22 first. I like that it uses the same magazines and has a threaded barrel.
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I'm guessing the 77/22 magnum and the RAR 22 magnum don't take the same magazines?
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My LGS called today. The RAR in .22lr I had them order Saturday showed up today. <a href="http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/polarys425/media/DSC_2225_zpsf08abded.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/polarys425/DSC_2225_zpsf08abded.jpg</a> View Quote Very nice. I think my first can is going to be one of these because I do not shoot .22lr enough to buy a .22lr dedicated one (at least for my first) and they are user serviceable so I can clean it easily after shitting it up with .22lr then stick back on an AR. |
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does anyone know if they are planning on making the .22lr models in stainless???
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I'm guessing the 77/22 magnum and the RAR 22 magnum don't take the same magazines? I am pretty sure they do. hmm, that's what I get for looking at a sample photo on Sportsmen's Guide. The RAR takes 10/22 mags. The 77/22 takes 77/22 mags. They are a little different......you can put 10/22 mags in them, but they dont fit perfect. They seem to feed fine. Not sure if 77/22 magnum has the same issue. |
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