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Posted: 1/17/2013 4:58:56 PM
Went shopping today gun shop wanted $70 for 500 rounds remington JHP 22lr! I told the owner thats crazy and i didnt need it that bad, a guy came in right behind me and bought it(the last box). there was some CCI for $20/100rounds.The main reason i purchased a 22 rifle and pistol was because of ammo price and availability. Walmart was completely out of 22lr, but they had 9mm which i bought five of for $14/50 rounds. Is walmart not price gouging? while independent shops are price gouging? This is gay, this whole ordeal is ruining my favorite hobby

Someone help me understand why 22lr has tripled in price
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:02:35 PM
Originally Posted By GardensandGuns:
Went shopping today gun shop wanted $70 for 500 rounds remington JHP 22lr! I told the owner thats crazy and i didnt need it that bad, a guy came in right behind me and bought it(the last box). there was some CCI for $20/100rounds.The main reason i purchased a 22 rifle and pistol was because of ammo price and availability. Walmart was completely out of 22lr, but they had 9mm which i bought five of for $14/50 rounds. Is walmart not price gouging? while independent shops are price gouging? This is gay, this whole ordeal is ruining my favorite hobby

Someone help me understand why 22lr has tripled in price


Because people are buying all of it.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:04:52 PM
Originally Posted By GardensandGuns:
Went shopping today gun shop wanted $70 for 500 rounds remington JHP 22lr! I told the owner thats crazy and i didnt need it that bad, a guy came in right behind me and bought it(the last box). there was some CCI for $20/100rounds.The main reason i purchased a 22 rifle and pistol was because of ammo price and availability. Walmart was completely out of 22lr, but they had 9mm which i bought five of for $14/50 rounds. Is walmart not price gouging? while independent shops are price gouging? This is gay, this whole ordeal is ruining my favorite hobby

Someone help me understand why 22lr has tripled in price


local gun store buys ammunition off shelves of wall mart, or pays locals to wipe them clean as soon as it comes in....

marks ammunition up 2-3x what they paid

?????


Profit!

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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:06:17 PM
You weren't around in 2008.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:07:24 PM
Because everyone with an assault squirrel gun is terrified that high velocity ammunition will be banned.

I'd like to believe that all of it is being used by people getting their CCW.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:16:00 PM
Seeing the buying panic that people are in with regards to AR parts and ammo, a small group of people are buying up everything ELSE with the express purpose of reselling it at a huge markup.

It sucks, but that's what it is.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:19:28 PM
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You weren't around in 2008.

I have only been in to firearms for 2 years now. So no.

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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:21:08 PM
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1st reason: Panic. Folks are panicked, and buying everything they can.

2nd reason: .22lr is cheap, so folks buy lots more of it.

I know people who are sufficiently caught up in the panic that they're buying anything and everything, not with the intention of reselling, just because they're scared.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:28:40 PM
Because the guys who missed the good stuff feel like they gotta buy something.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:30:15 PM
Originally Posted By GlutealCleft:
1st reason: Panic. Folks are panicked, and buying everything they can.

2nd reason: .22lr is cheap, so folks buy lots more of it.

I know people who are sufficiently caught up in the panic that they're buying anything and everything, not with the intention of reselling, just because they're scared.


I have just under a thousand rounds of 22lr. I never thought the prices would sky rocket like that or i would have got a lot more in past months. instead i was buying 5.56 .45 and 9mm.

Gander mountain seemed to have a couple cartridges readily available. 17hmr, 30-06, and shotgun shells.not that they were at a great price but they were well stocked.might have to get a new gun for one of those cartridges
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Posted: 1/17/2013 6:49:56 PM
Actually most of the ammo manufacturers dont produce every caliber they make year round, depending on how much they normally sell they may only do a few runs a year of certain calibers. I believe what you are seeing right now is the manufacturers are out due to end of the year (they dont like a bunch of inventory when it comes tax time!) and all the panic buying of centerfire they have more then likely ramped up production on that and put the next round of rimfire on hold trying to fill all them high dollar centerfire orders.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 6:56:41 PM
Because I missed the glory days of cheap 223, and I can reload what I do have.

22lr on the otherhand isn't reloadable, and I want stock up before the prices go apeshit like they did with 223.

I buy 2 bricks when ever I go to wallyworld. In the course of 3 years I have around 13,000 rounds stocked up. So the current panic doesn't affect me.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 9:03:54 PM
It's not available because everyone would rather sit on 5000 rounds to feel "safe" than actually go out and shoot it. I bought up about 3500 rounds right as the panic was hitting because I noticed it going away at the store. I hope to shoot most of it up over the next couple of years though. I just wanted enough to allow me to shoot as much as I want when I make it to the range. I hate to even suck up that much, but it seems to be either do that or overpay and/or do without.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:19:22 PM
22 LR RF has been spotty for the last year. In the last year the Wal-Marts around here have been out almost everytime I am in the store so I left them for folks that might be out. With over 6 million 10/22s alone being sold plus all the other 22 rifles and pistols it takes a lot of ammo to keep them going. The ammo companies say they are shipping millions of rounds per day but everyone says they have not seen any for a long time. I think the rimfire gets shot a lot and now a tremendous demand for it.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 1:46:10 AM
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Everybody and their mommy are buying up .22lr semi auto rifles and pistols, they all need ammo to work.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 3:23:02 AM
Originally Posted By truculenity:
Originally Posted By GardensandGuns:
Went shopping today gun shop wanted $70 for 500 rounds remington JHP 22lr! I told the owner thats crazy and i didnt need it that bad, a guy came in right behind me and bought it(the last box). there was some CCI for $20/100rounds.The main reason i purchased a 22 rifle and pistol was because of ammo price and availability. Walmart was completely out of 22lr, but they had 9mm which i bought five of for $14/50 rounds. Is walmart not price gouging? while independent shops are price gouging? This is gay, this whole ordeal is ruining my favorite hobby

Someone help me understand why 22lr has tripled in price


local gun store buys ammunition off shelves of wall mart, or pays locals to wipe them clean as soon as it comes in....

marks ammunition up 2-3x what they paid

?????


Profit!



That is no shit happening with at least 1 lgs in Nampa Idaho. A-O
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Posted: 1/18/2013 3:27:14 AM
Originally Posted By GardensandGuns:
Originally Posted By GlutealCleft:
1st reason: Panic. Folks are panicked, and buying everything they can.

2nd reason: .22lr is cheap, so folks buy lots more of it.

I know people who are sufficiently caught up in the panic that they're buying anything and everything, not with the intention of reselling, just because they're scared.


I have just under a thousand rounds of 22lr. I never thought the prices would sky rocket like that or i would have got a lot more in past months. instead i was buying 5.56 .45 and 9mm.

Gander mountain seemed to have a couple cartridges readily available. 17hmr, 30-06, and shotgun shells.not that they were at a great price but they were well stocked.might have to get a new gun for one of those cartridges


Read through the General forum section of arfcom and you'll see guys admitting they're buying up ammo and mags for calibers and guns they don't even own. Makes zero sense to me, but them's the facts of life.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:00:55 AM
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Because us guys with suppressed 22 pistols/rifles know how badass they are and much more effective with ammo
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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:38:14 AM
I've been buying ammo, magazines and parts kits for guns I don't even own for years because it was available and affordable...now those are unavailable and unaffordable so now I can purchase a firearm from a person who never thought to stock up on anything for that gun and now owns an overrated club that just sits useless in his safe. It does go both ways though as I do have a LOT of money tied up in items I've bought over the years just waiting for the opportunity to do something other than taking up room and gathering dust. Live and learn.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 11:29:31 AM
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I'm currently buying .22lr ammo and guns because that's all I'm shooting now.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:25:47 PM
Originally Posted By fenderCAB:
It's not available because everyone would rather sit on 5000 rounds to feel "safe" than actually go out and shoot it. I bought up about 3500 rounds right as the panic was hitting because I noticed it going away at the store. I hope to shoot most of it up over the next couple of years though. I just wanted enough to allow me to shoot as much as I want when I make it to the range. I hate to even suck up that much, but it seems to be either do that or overpay and/or do without.


As did I.

I plan on shooting all of it this year though.

Got a 22 can coming through the works hopefully by the end of the month or early next.

22lr is getting harder to find, not only as everyone got a 10/22 for Christmas, but more and more companies are making 22lr clones of their full-sized variants to make for cheap practice.
It only makes sense to go to the range and go through $20~$40 worth of ammo than to go to the range and go through $100 ~ $200 worth of ammo that it'll cost you $250~$300 to replace, if you can replace it in the current market shenanigans.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:39:02 PM
I just saw quite a bit of Winchester 555 round bulk pack on the shelf at a local gun store. $35. No thanks. I know for a fact that someone from this store went across the street and bought pallets of the cheap dove hunting shotgun shells and marked them up x2 at their store. This was a couple of years ago not during a panic, but Wal-Mart sells a ton of those shells right before dove season every year. I'm not saying they got their .22 ammo from Wal-Mart, but who knows. I know I'm not paying that much for bulk pack .22 ammo. Unless of course that's the best price we ever see again.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 12:50:45 PM

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
You weren't around in 2008.

Yup.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 1:50:16 PM
I never quit shooting i just swap to what is cheapest, so for me i buy up stuff like 22lr and 5.45 to shoot while I wait for ammo prices to come down on other calibers i would rather sit on to make sure my shtf supply is solid. I have 4 22lr and 3 son all with their own rifles, and 2 suppressors into the mix and we will go through 1k rounds easy in a sitting. I always go through at least one brick an outing especially if my boys are with me. I buy my 22lr in bulk though not off the shelf of Wally world until times like this. Now the bulk suppliers are out I stalk the gunshelf at m local walmart like a Lion waiting for them to resupply.

Anyway allot of people like me and allot of people buying just to buy which never made sense to me. I dont see the point invest in something like precious medals or stocks. If you werent around in 2008 I am sure this is a shock to you, but it will all balance out. POTUS has not made a move on ammo yet and any move he is likely to make will be shot down. In 2008 it took about a year for ammo to get back to buisness as usual.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 4:59:22 PM
Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
You weren't around in 2008.


I never had a problem finding .22LR in 2008.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 5:08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By BSmith79:
Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
You weren't around in 2008.


I never had a problem finding .22LR in 2008.


lol say what?

ETA: To underscore the issue.... I had a bulk pack of Remington Golden Bullets that I was absolutely disgusted with after firing off a couple magazines because of how much they sucked. I put up the partial box (400+rds) on the local gun board for $5. Considering the original retail price used to be like $15, it wasn't like I was GIVING them away... I must have got about three dozen PMs from different individuals begging me to sell to them.

It was BAD.
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