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Posted: 7/18/2017 1:37:34 AM EDT
What's everyone's opinions? Obviously bare plates are silly but how does everyone fee about just a base coat of anti-spall vs a full buildup? Worth the extra $, bulk/weight and thickness?
Link Posted: 7/18/2017 10:33:31 AM EDT
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It's hard to say. I haven't been able to find any testing done on plates with just a base coat. On top of that each manufacturer may have different standards for how thick a base coat should be, and some use different products for anti-frag coats. There's a lot of variables involved.

Personally, I won't buy steel plates that I'm going to wear without a build up coat. Not worth the risk.
Link Posted: 7/18/2017 10:47:56 AM EDT
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I have a pair of alloy plates for training but do keep them in the closet just in case. I placed old soft armor over the plate front, somewhat for spall and also for cushioning when working out (preventing damage).
Link Posted: 7/18/2017 7:45:52 PM EDT
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Add a bunch of ceramic, then remove the steel.
Link Posted: 7/18/2017 10:52:22 PM EDT
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Haha wish I could afford it, mate. Really do.

Ended up going with the Spartan III+ 8x10s with ATC triple curve and full coat of frag mitigation.
Link Posted: 7/19/2017 9:12:41 AM EDT
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Haha wish I could afford it, mate. Really do.

Ended up going with the Spartan III+ 8x10s with ATC triple curve and full coat of frag mitigation.
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Haha wish I could afford it, mate. Really do.

Ended up going with the Spartan III+ 8x10s with ATC triple curve and full coat of frag mitigation.
You just spent $260. These would have come to $280 and I bet you could have  found a 20% off coupon that's always floating around.

Highcom

Here's a set for $260 but I'm unfamiliar with the company.

Hoplite

If you looked I'm sure you could find a pair of small SAPIs for around $200
Link Posted: 7/19/2017 11:14:26 AM EDT
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You just spent $260. These would have come to $280 and I bet you could have  found a 20% off coupon that's always floating around.

Highcom
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Yep, I got the 10x12 multi curved plates for ~$140ish/ea using a coupon code. And they're level IV protection as opposed to "III+".
Link Posted: 7/19/2017 1:51:53 PM EDT
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I'd make a few Kevlar "socks" to put the plates in before I put them in the carrier.
Link Posted: 7/19/2017 6:03:51 PM EDT
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RMA also sells NIJ Certified (yes on the NIJ list) 06 Level IV plates for $100/each right now. #1155. They're only single curve though :(
Link Posted: 7/19/2017 8:19:14 PM EDT
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Well crap - why were the SAPI/composite plates I was looking at seeming to run $200+ a plate?

I originally decided on III+ because I realistically don't plan on encountering AP 30-06 and was more concerned about more likely threats (close range xm193 / xm855 / 7.62x39... .308 at worst). IV steel sounded way too heavy. Also wanted something not as thick - the ceramic/composite plates I was looking at were .8-1.00" thick and didn't sound much lighter than steel. These plates claim to be 6.1 lbs a pop and .5-.6" thick with the coating which is closer to what I was going for.

I WAS decided on III+ single curve but ended up selling a few things on craigslist earlier that day so I impulsively decided on triple-curve for the added comfort and body shape fit. Didn't realize decent quality ceramics weren't that much further off
Link Posted: 7/19/2017 11:10:34 PM EDT
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I checked the site but only saw 10x12. Do they have 8x10s?
Link Posted: 7/20/2017 7:15:36 AM EDT
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Point Blank Armor sells a Kevlar wrap for plates. It does add some weight and thickness though. My issued plates came with them.
Link Posted: 7/20/2017 8:15:14 AM EDT
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Well crap - why were the SAPI/composite plates I was looking at seeming to run $200+ a plate?

I originally decided on III+ because I realistically don't plan on encountering AP 30-06 and was more concerned about more likely threats (close range xm193 / xm855 / 7.62x39... .308 at worst). IV steel sounded way too heavy. Also wanted something not as thick - the ceramic/composite plates I was looking at were .8-1.00" thick and didn't sound much lighter than steel. These plates claim to be 6.1 lbs a pop and .5-.6" thick with the coating which is closer to what I was going for.

I WAS decided on III+ single curve but ended up selling a few things on craigslist earlier that day so I impulsively decided on triple-curve for the added comfort and body shape fit. Didn't realize decent quality ceramics weren't that much further off
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Highcom and Midwest Armor both offer level IV ceramics for <$200, and both usually have additional coupon codes available. Granted, these are not the über lightweight UHMWPE plates, they tend to be 7+ lbs per plate. But that's the trade-off. You can have cheap/affordable or lightweight, but I've yet to find both.
Link Posted: 7/20/2017 4:14:23 PM EDT
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Highcom and Midwest Armor both offer level IV ceramics for <$200, and both usually have additional coupon codes available. Granted, these are not the über lightweight UHMWPE plates, they tend to be 7+ lbs per plate. But that's the trade-off. You can have cheap/affordable or lightweight, but I've yet to find both.
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Well crap - why were the SAPI/composite plates I was looking at seeming to run $200+ a plate?

I originally decided on III+ because I realistically don't plan on encountering AP 30-06 and was more concerned about more likely threats (close range xm193 / xm855 / 7.62x39... .308 at worst). IV steel sounded way too heavy. Also wanted something not as thick - the ceramic/composite plates I was looking at were .8-1.00" thick and didn't sound much lighter than steel. These plates claim to be 6.1 lbs a pop and .5-.6" thick with the coating which is closer to what I was going for.

I WAS decided on III+ single curve but ended up selling a few things on craigslist earlier that day so I impulsively decided on triple-curve for the added comfort and body shape fit. Didn't realize decent quality ceramics weren't that much further off
Highcom and Midwest Armor both offer level IV ceramics for <$200, and both usually have additional coupon codes available. Granted, these are not the über lightweight UHMWPE plates, they tend to be 7+ lbs per plate. But that's the trade-off. You can have cheap/affordable or lightweight, but I've yet to find both.
Yup, but still lighter than steel
Link Posted: 7/21/2017 12:07:53 AM EDT
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I checked the site but only saw 10x12. Do they have 8x10s?
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Just the 10x12 I believe right now
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