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Originally Posted By wootizzle:
Can someone recommend me some plate carrier options? I'd like a Crye cpc but that's a little out of my price range in all honesty. I'm not interested in the Skd one. I'll pay up to maybe $400. I'm 6'4" 230. Looking for something comfortable and g2g. I've considered the hsgi mpc and the lbt modular plate carrier. I just have no experience with them and don't want to buy it to return it due to fit. Anyone have any experience with these two or recommend others? ThAnks in advance View Quote Mind expanding on this, here or Im/ DM. If there is something you can change on the carrier, what would it be. You can also tell me that you don't like us and that is perfectly acceptable too. Regards, SOS |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Mind expanding on this, here or Im/ DM. If there is something you can change on the carrier, what would it be. You can also tell me that you don't like us and that is perfectly acceptable too. Regards, SOS View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By wootizzle:
Can someone recommend me some plate carrier options? I'd like a Crye cpc but that's a little out of my price range in all honesty. I'm not interested in the Skd one. I'll pay up to maybe $400. I'm 6'4" 230. Looking for something comfortable and g2g. I've considered the hsgi mpc and the lbt modular plate carrier. I just have no experience with them and don't want to buy it to return it due to fit. Anyone have any experience with these two or recommend others? ThAnks in advance Mind expanding on this, here or Im/ DM. If there is something you can change on the carrier, what would it be. You can also tell me that you don't like us and that is perfectly acceptable too. Regards, SOS I refuse to buy anything from you solely on your asinine body armor sales policy. I respect and understand your decision to do it, I just don't agree with it so I vote with my feet. From what I have seen you do make a great product tho. It is a shame you are losing out on market share because I am not the only person who feels this way, and no I'm not a criminal nor do I have any sort of record. Just not a fan of proving my innocence in order to purchase a 100% legal product. |
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
I refuse to buy anything from you solely on your asinine body armor sales policy. I respect and understand your decision to do it, I just don't agree with it so I vote with my feet. From what I have seen you do make a great product tho. It is a shame you are losing out on market share because I am not the only person who feels this way, and no I'm not a criminal nor do I have any sort of record. Just not a fan of proving my innocence in order to purchase a 100% legal product. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By wootizzle:
Can someone recommend me some plate carrier options? I'd like a Crye cpc but that's a little out of my price range in all honesty. I'm not interested in the Skd one. I'll pay up to maybe $400. I'm 6'4" 230. Looking for something comfortable and g2g. I've considered the hsgi mpc and the lbt modular plate carrier. I just have no experience with them and don't want to buy it to return it due to fit. Anyone have any experience with these two or recommend others? ThAnks in advance Mind expanding on this, here or Im/ DM. If there is something you can change on the carrier, what would it be. You can also tell me that you don't like us and that is perfectly acceptable too. Regards, SOS I refuse to buy anything from you solely on your asinine body armor sales policy. I respect and understand your decision to do it, I just don't agree with it so I vote with my feet. From what I have seen you do make a great product tho. It is a shame you are losing out on market share because I am not the only person who feels this way, and no I'm not a criminal nor do I have any sort of record. Just not a fan of proving my innocence in order to purchase a 100% legal product. I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS |
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Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
I refuse to buy anything from you solely on your asinine body armor sales policy. I respect and understand your decision to do it, I just don't agree with it so I vote with my feet. From what I have seen you do make a great product tho. It is a shame you are losing out on market share because I am not the only person who feels this way, and no I'm not a criminal nor do I have any sort of record. Just not a fan of proving my innocence in order to purchase a 100% legal product. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bjohnson425:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By wootizzle:
Can someone recommend me some plate carrier options? I'd like a Crye cpc but that's a little out of my price range in all honesty. I'm not interested in the Skd one. I'll pay up to maybe $400. I'm 6'4" 230. Looking for something comfortable and g2g. I've considered the hsgi mpc and the lbt modular plate carrier. I just have no experience with them and don't want to buy it to return it due to fit. Anyone have any experience with these two or recommend others? ThAnks in advance Mind expanding on this, here or Im/ DM. If there is something you can change on the carrier, what would it be. You can also tell me that you don't like us and that is perfectly acceptable too. Regards, SOS I refuse to buy anything from you solely on your asinine body armor sales policy. I respect and understand your decision to do it, I just don't agree with it so I vote with my feet. From what I have seen you do make a great product tho. It is a shame you are losing out on market share because I am not the only person who feels this way, and no I'm not a criminal nor do I have any sort of record. Just not a fan of proving my innocence in order to purchase a 100% legal product. |
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Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
I'm doing it for the children. I want to flood the streets with military grade weapons. |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS View Quote I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? |
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Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? Completely reasonable request. I'll look into it. SOS |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Completely reasonable request. I'll look into it. SOS View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? Completely reasonable request. I'll look into it. SOS I'd second this. Tried to get the BG check through local LE contacts for classes in addition to attempting to comply with your policy. First they all questioned why I would even need armor and gave me the stink eye, never mind I'm a local business owner, college graduate, no record etc. In addition, when pressed l was told by two different command level officers that they couldn't do it per FBI guidelines for NCIC access since I wasn't officially detained/arrested with Reasonable Suspicion /Probable Cause to justify the review, like a a traffic stop or other valid reason. Very tight regs on accessing Federal databases through official channels that can lead to fines and criminal charges for doing this without PC/RAS for a suspected crime they told me. Don't have a LTC/CCW/CHL,but have provided a copy of US passport to prove citizenship to other armor providers in state and out for those purchases, who ran my info and gave me an all clear without getting treated as a second class citizen. |
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Originally Posted By IWC71:
I'd second this. Tried to get the BG check through local LE contacts for classes in addition to attempting to comply with your policy. First they all questioned why I would even need armor and gave me the stink eye, never mind I'm a local business owner, college graduate, no record etc. In addition, when pressed l was told by two different command level officers that they couldn't do it per FBI guidelines for NCIC access since I wasn't officially detained/arrested with Reasonable Suspicion /Probable Cause to justify the review, like a a traffic stop or other valid reason. Very tight regs on accessing Federal databases through official channels that can lead to fines and criminal charges for doing this without PC/RAS for a suspected crime they told me. Don't have a LTC/CCW/CHL,but have provided a copy of US passport to prove citizenship to other armor providers in state and out for those purchases, who ran my info and gave me an all clear without getting treated as a second class citizen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By IWC71:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? Completely reasonable request. I'll look into it. SOS I'd second this. Tried to get the BG check through local LE contacts for classes in addition to attempting to comply with your policy. First they all questioned why I would even need armor and gave me the stink eye, never mind I'm a local business owner, college graduate, no record etc. In addition, when pressed l was told by two different command level officers that they couldn't do it per FBI guidelines for NCIC access since I wasn't officially detained/arrested with Reasonable Suspicion /Probable Cause to justify the review, like a a traffic stop or other valid reason. Very tight regs on accessing Federal databases through official channels that can lead to fines and criminal charges for doing this without PC/RAS for a suspected crime they told me. Don't have a LTC/CCW/CHL,but have provided a copy of US passport to prove citizenship to other armor providers in state and out for those purchases, who ran my info and gave me an all clear without getting treated as a second class citizen. Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. |
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Originally Posted By JMC907:
Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JMC907:
Originally Posted By IWC71:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? Completely reasonable request. I'll look into it. SOS I'd second this. Tried to get the BG check through local LE contacts for classes in addition to attempting to comply with your policy. First they all questioned why I would even need armor and gave me the stink eye, never mind I'm a local business owner, college graduate, no record etc. In addition, when pressed l was told by two different command level officers that they couldn't do it per FBI guidelines for NCIC access since I wasn't officially detained/arrested with Reasonable Suspicion /Probable Cause to justify the review, like a a traffic stop or other valid reason. Very tight regs on accessing Federal databases through official channels that can lead to fines and criminal charges for doing this without PC/RAS for a suspected crime they told me. Don't have a LTC/CCW/CHL,but have provided a copy of US passport to prove citizenship to other armor providers in state and out for those purchases, who ran my info and gave me an all clear without getting treated as a second class citizen. Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. SKD is a fantastic company and easily the best in this particular niche. I buy my armor elsewhere but 90% of my gear comes from them |
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Originally Posted By JMC907:
Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JMC907:
Originally Posted By IWC71:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
I FULLY understood. I commend your stance and I agree with it for the most part. I unfortunately will not change our policy as I would rather have a good guy jump through a few annoying hoops than make a quick easy buck off of a bad guy. Internet sales being what they are in anonymity for the most part, I can't sell my conscience for any amount of gold. I never want to look up a shooter and see that he was a customer of ours. Thank you for the honest response. I would point you towards First Spear as they have some fantastic offerings too. Cheers, SOS I think your policy is a PIA too, but it is your company. SKD is a great company to deal with. As a customer I would like to make one recommendation regarding it. Some companies will accept a scan of a valid state issued LTC. Maybe SKD could consider modifying their policy? Completely reasonable request. I'll look into it. SOS I'd second this. Tried to get the BG check through local LE contacts for classes in addition to attempting to comply with your policy. First they all questioned why I would even need armor and gave me the stink eye, never mind I'm a local business owner, college graduate, no record etc. In addition, when pressed l was told by two different command level officers that they couldn't do it per FBI guidelines for NCIC access since I wasn't officially detained/arrested with Reasonable Suspicion /Probable Cause to justify the review, like a a traffic stop or other valid reason. Very tight regs on accessing Federal databases through official channels that can lead to fines and criminal charges for doing this without PC/RAS for a suspected crime they told me. Don't have a LTC/CCW/CHL,but have provided a copy of US passport to prove citizenship to other armor providers in state and out for those purchases, who ran my info and gave me an all clear without getting treated as a second class citizen. Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. I'm not sure it has anything to do with trying to stop terrorism. Rather, they're trying to minimize the risk they are opening themselves up to by selling body armor to civilians. ITAR regulations (and I'm sure several others) forbid the sale/export of body armor to non-Americans. Same thing with night vision. Honestly, having to prove your citizenship to enjoy the freedoms our country provides...I'm OK with. Right or wrong, public perception is everything; it's the cards we've all been dealt. They are simply trying to ensure they aren't sued out of existence if someone uses their product in a high-profile crime. (And let's face it, with today's media, any crime committed with body armor involved is gonna be elevated to high-profile) In a day and age where people are frivolously trying to sue gun manufacturers in spite of the fact that legally obtained firearms are subject to much more stringent rules and background checks, this seems like a reasonable precaution. |
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Originally Posted By JMC907:
Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. View Quote Your rhetoric is hilarious. I think you needed "it's a slippery slope" or maybe "SKD is letting the Terrorists win" type of slogan to really nail it home. Capitalism lets you spend your money where you want. BTW I am fairly certain I treated "Terrorist" way worse than having them fill out "feel good measure" paperwork. I still serve under our Flag, and do so happily everyday, SKD is a labor of love for me - that I do in my spare time, which increasingly takes up more and more of it. Thank you to those that understand our position, whether or not you agree with it. We are all only as good as our word, and as I have said before, I won't sell my soul for any amount of gold. Making a sale isn't worth the possible 2nd and 3rd order effects. These are my words, and not the owner of SKD. SOS |
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Please, let us return to the Plate Carrier pics, I miss them. If you want to discuss or bash the SKD Body Armor Policy, please do so in our sub forum. I generally check it every 1-2 days.
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Please, let us return to the Plate Carrier pics, I miss them. If you want to discuss or bash the SKD Body Armor Policy, please do so in our sub forum. I generally check it every 1-2 days. SKDTAC on AR15.com Cheers, SOS View Quote SOS, we need a group buy from you guys to push me into taking new pics of the gear. |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Yeah loving my liberty and freedom is Your rhetoric is hilarious. I think you needed "it's a slippery slope" or maybe "SKD is letting the Terrorists win" type of slogan to really nail it home. Capitalism lets you spend your money where you want. BTW I am fairly certain I treated "Terrorist" way worse than having them fill out "feel good measure" paperwork. I still serve under our Flag, and do so happily everyday, SKD is a labor of love for me - that I do in my spare time, which increasingly takes up more and more of it. Thank you to those that understand our position, whether or not you agree with it. We are all only as good as our word, and as I have said before, I won't sell my soul for any amount of gold. Making a sale isn't worth the possible 2nd and 3rd order effects. These are my words, and not the owner of SKD. SOS View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Originally Posted By JMC907:
Guys, there's several companies out there that won't treat you like your a terrorist and assume your guilty until proven innocent. A few searches and you'll find them. Hoplite armor, and Midwest armor are the first off the top of my head. This is America and I have the right to be treated like I am not automatically guilty of a crime until I prove I am a "good guy,' especially when i t come to something that is defensive and unless thrown at someone cannot be used to harm someone. These hoops are ridiculous at best, and won't stop jack. More of a feel good measure, to make them feel like they are doing something to stop terrorism. Yeah loving my liberty and freedom is Your rhetoric is hilarious. I think you needed "it's a slippery slope" or maybe "SKD is letting the Terrorists win" type of slogan to really nail it home. Capitalism lets you spend your money where you want. BTW I am fairly certain I treated "Terrorist" way worse than having them fill out "feel good measure" paperwork. I still serve under our Flag, and do so happily everyday, SKD is a labor of love for me - that I do in my spare time, which increasingly takes up more and more of it. Thank you to those that understand our position, whether or not you agree with it. We are all only as good as our word, and as I have said before, I won't sell my soul for any amount of gold. Making a sale isn't worth the possible 2nd and 3rd order effects. These are my words, and not the owner of SKD. SOS I'm sure to those that have been indoctrinated into loving their servitude, my " rhetoric" would be hilarious. But I take my freedom very serious, and yes I do vote with my dollar. My point was to try and show others, that they don't have to get a note from mom that says I am a good guy. And there are other freedom loving companies out there, that don't act like west Germany used to with a "paper please" attitude like everyone is a bad guy until proven innocent. |
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Originally Posted By wootizzle: Can someone recommend me some plate carrier options? I'd like a Crye cpc but that's a little out of my price range in all honesty. I'm not interested in the Skd one. I'll pay up to maybe $400. I'm 6'4" 230. Looking for something comfortable and g2g. I've considered the hsgi mpc and the lbt modular plate carrier. I just have no experience with them and don't want to buy it to return it due to fit. Anyone have any experience with these two or recommend others? ThAnks in advance View Quote http://www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=52813 |
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Originally Posted By Phong:
Is there anything comparable to the AR500 micro plate carrier anywhere else? https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/AR500-Micro-8-400x266.jpg View Quote Grey ghost gear minimalist |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Your rhetoric is hilarious. I think you needed "it's a slippery slope" or maybe "SKD is letting the Terrorists win" type of slogan to really nail it home. Capitalism lets you spend your money where you want. BTW I am fairly certain I treated "Terrorist" way worse than having them fill out "feel good measure" paperwork. I still serve under our Flag, and do so happily everyday, SKD is a labor of love for me - that I do in my spare time, which increasingly takes up more and more of it Thank you to those that understand our position, whether or not you agree with it. We are all only as good as our word, and as I have said before, I won't sell my soul for any amount of gold. Making a sale isn't worth the possible 2nd and 3rd order effects. These are my words, and not the owner of SKD. SOS View Quote I don't understand. It's a liberal argument. Sell my soul?!!! Give me a break. If I sell a guy a gun and he does something terrible with it I wouldn't feel bad. HE made that decision. It's as simple as that. But like you said, we have a choice and I'll never prove my innocence to anyone. Thanks for the post. I never knew your stance before. I'm sure you won't miss the hundreds a year I spend with you but I'll stop just the same. Attitudes like your just give the grabbers more ammo. "See?! SDK is "reasonable"!!! They make people prove their innocence". Even though the guns from some of the recent shootings have be obtained legally. Didn't stop them did it. Makes zero sense. |
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Originally Posted By Phong:
Is there anything comparable to the AR500 micro plate carrier anywhere else? https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/AR500-Micro-8-400x266.jpg View Quote Yes Sir AT Armor |
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Originally Posted By Jpl85295:
I don't understand. It's a liberal argument. Sell my soul?!!! Give me a break. If I sell a guy a gun and he does something terrible with it I wouldn't feel bad. HE made that decision. It's as simple as that. But like you said, we have a choice and I'll never prove my innocence to anyone. Thanks for the post. I never knew your stance before. I'm sure you won't miss the hundreds a year I spend with you but I'll stop just the same. Attitudes like your just give the grabbers more ammo. "See?! SDK is "reasonable"!!! They make people prove their innocence". Even though the guns from some of the recent shootings have be obtained legally. Didn't stop them did it. Makes zero sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jpl85295:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Your rhetoric is hilarious. I think you needed "it's a slippery slope" or maybe "SKD is letting the Terrorists win" type of slogan to really nail it home. Capitalism lets you spend your money where you want. BTW I am fairly certain I treated "Terrorist" way worse than having them fill out "feel good measure" paperwork. I still serve under our Flag, and do so happily everyday, SKD is a labor of love for me - that I do in my spare time, which increasingly takes up more and more of it Thank you to those that understand our position, whether or not you agree with it. We are all only as good as our word, and as I have said before, I won't sell my soul for any amount of gold. Making a sale isn't worth the possible 2nd and 3rd order effects. These are my words, and not the owner of SKD. SOS I don't understand. It's a liberal argument. Sell my soul?!!! Give me a break. If I sell a guy a gun and he does something terrible with it I wouldn't feel bad. HE made that decision. It's as simple as that. But like you said, we have a choice and I'll never prove my innocence to anyone. Thanks for the post. I never knew your stance before. I'm sure you won't miss the hundreds a year I spend with you but I'll stop just the same. Attitudes like your just give the grabbers more ammo. "See?! SDK is "reasonable"!!! They make people prove their innocence". Even though the guns from some of the recent shootings have be obtained legally. Didn't stop them did it. Makes zero sense. I understand SKDs stance 100%. If body armor was used in a crime and was traced back to being bought from SKD that's something I would not want to see in a headline if it was my company. |
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Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
I understand SKDs stance 100%. If body armor was used in a crime and was traced back to being bought from SKD that's something I would not want to see in a headline if it was my company. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
Originally Posted By Jpl85295:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Your rhetoric is hilarious. I think you needed "it's a slippery slope" or maybe "SKD is letting the Terrorists win" type of slogan to really nail it home. Capitalism lets you spend your money where you want. BTW I am fairly certain I treated "Terrorist" way worse than having them fill out "feel good measure" paperwork. I still serve under our Flag, and do so happily everyday, SKD is a labor of love for me - that I do in my spare time, which increasingly takes up more and more of it Thank you to those that understand our position, whether or not you agree with it. We are all only as good as our word, and as I have said before, I won't sell my soul for any amount of gold. Making a sale isn't worth the possible 2nd and 3rd order effects. These are my words, and not the owner of SKD. SOS I don't understand. It's a liberal argument. Sell my soul?!!! Give me a break. If I sell a guy a gun and he does something terrible with it I wouldn't feel bad. HE made that decision. It's as simple as that. But like you said, we have a choice and I'll never prove my innocence to anyone. Thanks for the post. I never knew your stance before. I'm sure you won't miss the hundreds a year I spend with you but I'll stop just the same. Attitudes like your just give the grabbers more ammo. "See?! SDK is "reasonable"!!! They make people prove their innocence". Even though the guns from some of the recent shootings have be obtained legally. Didn't stop them did it. Makes zero sense. I understand SKDs stance 100%. If body armor was used in a crime and was traced back to being bought from SKD that's something I would not want to see in a headline if it was my company. It's a sad commentary on our society, but any sane and sensible company should take steps to cover their ass. |
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Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/7289B7EE-5972-4FD1-BBDC-D07B7B1B5087_zps0bhc0fmu.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/A0D18122-10B5-4AA0-A223-AB1411A502AD_zpsyqktm3wn.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/B705CB5C-91D5-4382-825E-3BAB83CC57DD_zpsrptvfze9.jpg I think I will be taking off the admin pouch but I think my setup is a lot better than when I first set it up http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/D6C990EF-83A3-425F-8513-97B801836DD1-20144-00001556501F4F7C_zps6e600258.jpg View Quote What is the electrical tape for? |
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What is the electrical tape for? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DallasLooterShooter:
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http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/7289B7EE-5972-4FD1-BBDC-D07B7B1B5087_zps0bhc0fmu.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/A0D18122-10B5-4AA0-A223-AB1411A502AD_zpsyqktm3wn.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/B705CB5C-91D5-4382-825E-3BAB83CC57DD_zpsrptvfze9.jpg I think I will be taking off the admin pouch but I think my setup is a lot better than when I first set it up http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/D6C990EF-83A3-425F-8513-97B801836DD1-20144-00001556501F4F7C_zps6e600258.jpg What is the electrical tape for? That was the old setup. I was just showing a picture of when I got everything and set it up just to compare now and then. But I had it on there as I use electrical tape for just about everything. Now I have a small roll in my pack. Or did you mean on my front plate? |
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Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
That was the old setup. I was just showing a picture of when I got everything and set it up just to compare now and then. But I had it on there as I use electrical tape for just about everything. Now I have a small roll in my pack. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
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Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/7289B7EE-5972-4FD1-BBDC-D07B7B1B5087_zps0bhc0fmu.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/A0D18122-10B5-4AA0-A223-AB1411A502AD_zpsyqktm3wn.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/B705CB5C-91D5-4382-825E-3BAB83CC57DD_zpsrptvfze9.jpg I think I will be taking off the admin pouch but I think my setup is a lot better than when I first set it up http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/D6C990EF-83A3-425F-8513-97B801836DD1-20144-00001556501F4F7C_zps6e600258.jpg What is the electrical tape for? That was the old setup. I was just showing a picture of when I got everything and set it up just to compare now and then. But I had it on there as I use electrical tape for just about everything. Now I have a small roll in my pack. What do you use it for? Maybe I can pick up a few ideas. |
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What do you use it for? Maybe I can pick up a few ideas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DallasLooterShooter:
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Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/7289B7EE-5972-4FD1-BBDC-D07B7B1B5087_zps0bhc0fmu.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/A0D18122-10B5-4AA0-A223-AB1411A502AD_zpsyqktm3wn.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/B705CB5C-91D5-4382-825E-3BAB83CC57DD_zpsrptvfze9.jpg I think I will be taking off the admin pouch but I think my setup is a lot better than when I first set it up http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h36/D-RAS03/D6C990EF-83A3-425F-8513-97B801836DD1-20144-00001556501F4F7C_zps6e600258.jpg What is the electrical tape for? That was the old setup. I was just showing a picture of when I got everything and set it up just to compare now and then. But I had it on there as I use electrical tape for just about everything. Now I have a small roll in my pack. What do you use it for? Maybe I can pick up a few ideas. Any tears in clothing, boots, tie up any wires I had running if they got in the way, in case my flashlight mount failed I could attach it till I could get it properly fixed. Really a thousand things it can be used for when out in the field when you can't go home and fix it the right way. There are more times I used it but can't think of anymore at the moment. That and duct tape can be lifesavers in my book. ETA: Now that I'm thinking of it again I may add it back to my carrier. |
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Millions of uses for electrical tape. From taping parts of chemlights to control exposure or for marking to det cord wraps where you don't have time for a proper yule knot. I also carry a roll of electrical tape but mine was always hanging from my belt. Definately a piece of gear on all my kit.
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Originally Posted By Repairman_Jack:
I'm not sure it has anything to do with trying to stop terrorism. Rather, they're trying to minimize the risk they are opening themselves up to by selling body armor to civilians. ITAR regulations (and I'm sure several others) forbid the sale/export of body armor to non-Americans. Same thing with night vision. Honestly, having to prove your citizenship to enjoy the freedoms our country provides...I'm OK with. Right or wrong, public perception is everything; it's the cards we've all been dealt. They are simply trying to ensure they aren't sued out of existence if someone uses their product in a high-profile crime. (And let's face it, with today's media, any crime committed with body armor involved is gonna be elevated to high-profile) In a day and age where people are frivolously trying to sue gun manufacturers in spite of the fact that legally obtained firearms are subject to much more stringent rules and background checks, this seems like a reasonable precaution. View Quote I don't normally get involved in the political squabble outside of GD but I'll make an exception to agree. As someone who's bought probably over a grand worth of stuff from SKD, including plates, the last thing I want to see is a company which has been so supportive to ARFCOM, its members, and shooting as a whole to go down in flames because someone like Hillary decides to make an example of them after some whack job buys some plates and decides to take out some racially motivated nonsense in another "gun free zone" or some BLM retard decides "fuck da poo-lice" and declares war on the boys in blue. We don't have many political allies who will speak up to defend us in those instances (Sandy Hook aftermath showed we have a few, but not many). |
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WTF is up with this bullshit anti-bayo lug crap. Was there a group of irrate japanese guys bonzai charging disabled school children and puppies that I wasn't aware of?
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My last post. I made one but didn't post it before but since the topic won't die.
Feel good measures don't stop bad people from obtaining stuff. They don't stop people who "pass" feel good measures from doing bad stuff. As for covering Thier ass. I "get it". But it's not well thought out. Do you guys really think the news is going to take it easy on SDK and say, " well they tried to prevent this with a good guy check". Nope. They will either ignore it and not even mention it, OR say it wasn't enough and SDK was just doing it for show. You guys have seen the news in action, They will lie, embellish, ignore. Just my 02, but I'm not going to lose sales and take food out of my family's mouth because I'm trying to "protect" business from negative publicity when I KNOW, for a FACT, they will lie and embellish anyway. Won't do it. You could send a huge body guard with every set of plates you sell to babysit the people who buy them and it still won't stop that person if they want to do something wrong. It's a false argument at its worst IMO. And this might even be a moot point. Did the news say anything about where the couple in CA got their gear? Ah well. Not GD. Back to PC's. |
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Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> View Quote Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? |
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Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand |
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Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand I like the look of that trauma kit. Who makes it? |
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Originally Posted By lew:
I like the look of that trauma kit. Who makes it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand I like the look of that trauma kit. Who makes it? http://www.raventacticalgear.com/rtg_store.php.html |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand I like the look of that trauma kit. Who makes it? http://www.raventacticalgear.com/rtg_store.php.html Thanks for the link, brother. |
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Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand Man I really like that. My only tiny concern would be if I was sitting a lot and constantly putting pressure and movement on the wrappers inside of it. At least in the position you have it in. Is that a non issue? I really like it and I like where you placed it. |
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Man I really like that. My only tiny concern would be if I was sitting a lot and constantly putting pressure and movement on the wrappers inside of it. At least in the position you have it in. Is that a non issue? I really like it and I like where you placed it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jpl85295:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand Man I really like that. My only tiny concern would be if I was sitting a lot and constantly putting pressure and movement on the wrappers inside of it. At least in the position you have it in. Is that a non issue? I really like it and I like where you placed it. Same question cause I'd love to move my IFAK from the side of my vest so I can move my radio over and have my armpit free, lol |
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Originally Posted By Jpl85295:
Man I really like that. My only tiny concern would be if I was sitting a lot and constantly putting pressure and movement on the wrappers inside of it. At least in the position you have it in. Is that a non issue? I really like it and I like where you placed it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jpl85295:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:
Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:
Kiltakaze plate carrier Mod 87. I think I finally found my perfect set up and now I can switch between AR and 308 mags easy <a href="http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/psouthern1214/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/psouthern1214/Mobile%20Uploads/20160408_150948_zpsqimvdqw7.jpg</a> Looks good. Does your IFAK have a pull out tray? Yes, and it can deploy from either side or I can just unvelcro the sheath for it and it falls free. Very easy witj either hand Man I really like that. My only tiny concern would be if I was sitting a lot and constantly putting pressure and movement on the wrappers inside of it. At least in the position you have it in. Is that a non issue? I really like it and I like where you placed it. So far it's a non issue, but I also don't wear it super often. When I do wear it it's comfortable and I've noticed no issues with any packaging on the contents. I inspect them a couple times a month |
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