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Yeah it was riding much too low; I adjusted it last night and pulled it up a few inches higher. The bottom edge of the rig without the dump is right at the top of by belly button; with the dump deployed, it's above my package.
Any higher and I'd probably have a hard time drawing my pistol unless I rearranged things to a cross-draw from the left, which I haven't ruled out yet. This whole setup hasn't even seen the range yet so I may change some things but I like the JSTAs on the ends; they're perfect and I feel like I'm getting close. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: Thanks dude. So I already have the KYWI inserts, all I need is one of each of these to make it work? 7.62mm Elastic Insert But do they make wraps for pistol inserts? View Quote You should just need these wedge adapters for the kywis. https://www.8492nylonworks.com/products?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search=kywi I think haley makes a pistol insert. |
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Originally Posted By daemon734: You should just need these wedge adapters for the kywis. https://www.8492nylonworks.com/products?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search=kywi I think haley makes a pistol insert. View Quote Yeah, it says those work with all KYWI inserts, so that's all I need. One thing I noticed with the KYWI inserts though is the retention is REALLY stiff. Might try and heat those wedges up and ease the retention a tad. |
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Any ideas on assault packs to buy? Specifically Made in the USA is great but not opposed to foreign so long as it's not made in China. And needs to have molle on the sides and maybe the front. Has to have sternum strap as well, I don't really want a cummerbund because it would make carrying a battle belt a PITA.
Or should I stick with purchasing a USGI surplus in mulitcam or brand new? Leads to places to buy the legit real deal and not copies? Would like to have internal space to store for a water bladder or water bottles, poncho, poncho liner, extra IFAK, rations, snacks, hatchet, possibly a folding shovel, and maybe some admin pouches to store the smaller things like batteries and chemlights. Definitely needs places to mount D60 drum pouches, M18 pouches, Esstac mag pouches, etc. Figured I ask here instead of making another random thread. |
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Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Any ideas on assault packs to buy? Specifically Made in the USA is great but not opposed to foreign so long as it's not made in China. And needs to have molle on the sides and maybe the front. Has to have sternum strap as well, I don't really want a cummerbund because it would make carrying a battle belt a PITA. Or should I stick with purchasing a USGI surplus in mulitcam or brand new? Leads to places to buy the legit real deal and not copies? Would like to have internal space to store for a water bladder or water bottles, poncho, poncho liner, extra IFAK, rations, snacks, hatchet, possibly a folding shovel, and maybe some admin pouches to store the smaller things like batteries and chemlights. Definitely needs places to mount D60 drum pouches, M18 pouches, Esstac mag pouches, etc. Figured I ask here instead of making another random thread. View Quote Kifaru Xray TAD Lightspeed ATS RAID TYR Huron TYR Huron Assaulters Mystery Ranch SPEC OPS T.H.E. Pack Eberlestock HiSpeed II Agilite AMAP |
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Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Any ideas on assault packs to buy? Specifically Made in the USA is great but not opposed to foreign so long as it's not made in China. And needs to have molle on the sides and maybe the front. Has to have sternum strap as well, I don't really want a cummerbund because it would make carrying a battle belt a PITA. Or should I stick with purchasing a USGI surplus in mulitcam or brand new? Leads to places to buy the legit real deal and not copies? Would like to have internal space to store for a water bladder or water bottles, poncho, poncho liner, extra IFAK, rations, snacks, hatchet, possibly a folding shovel, and maybe some admin pouches to store the smaller things like batteries and chemlights. Definitely needs places to mount D60 drum pouches, M18 pouches, Esstac mag pouches, etc. Figured I ask here instead of making another random thread. View Quote Newer version I believe that's the newer version of what you posted. I was issued what you posted and it's tolerable. I'd hesitate to mount a d60 to the outside. The bag isn't going to support it. Fwiw I keep a camelback for my assault pack |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Newer version I believe that's the newer version of what you posted. I was issued what you posted and it's tolerable. I'd hesitate to mount a d60 to the outside. The bag isn't going to support it. Fwiw I keep a camelback for my assault pack View Quote Your "newer" version is actually the Medium Rucksack, 72-hour bag. Meant for a frame, bigger than the assault pack. Thy original surplus bag is what comes with the Rifleman's kit. |
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Originally Posted By last_crusader: Your "newer" version is actually the Medium Rucksack, 72-hour bag. Meant for a frame, bigger than the assault pack. Thy original surplus bag is what comes with the Rifleman's kit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By last_crusader: Originally Posted By 03RN: Newer version I believe that's the newer version of what you posted. I was issued what you posted and it's tolerable. I'd hesitate to mount a d60 to the outside. The bag isn't going to support it. Fwiw I keep a camelback for my assault pack Your "newer" version is actually the Medium Rucksack, 72-hour bag. Meant for a frame, bigger than the assault pack. Thy original surplus bag is what comes with the Rifleman's kit. Hmm, I thought there was an updated assault pack. Not the one I linked to apparently but I thought it looked similar. I remember seeing one and thinking it looked a lot better than the one I had when I was in. |
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You know those super cheap Mystery Ranch THOR III packs that no one seems to have a use for?
Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File On board is a Tobin Sports Canyon Pro 3 man/600 lb. inflatable raft, rigid floor, oars and there are still 3 pockets left over for odds and ends. |
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Originally Posted By Advance: You know those super cheap Mystery Ranch THOR III packs that no one seems to have a use for? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20220901_174319768_jpg-2510932.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20220901_174637751_jpg-2510934.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20220901_174450656_MOTION-01_COVER_j-2510935.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20220901_174725854_jpg-2510937.JPG On board is a Tobin Sports Canyon Pro 3 man/600 lb. inflatable raft, rigid floor, oars and there are still 3 pockets left over for odds and ends. View Quote That’s a very cool, and unique use! What’s that set up weigh? Also, I’ve made a comfortable living and retirement but I can’t classify a Mystery Ranch Thor pack as “super cheap” 😎 |
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Originally Posted By parrisisland1978: That’s a very cool, and unique use! What’s that set up weigh? Also, I’ve made a comfortable living and retirement but I can’t classify a Mystery Ranch Thor pack as “super cheap” 😎 View Quote Total weight if I had to guess is ~45-50 lbs. Since the THOR III is designed for a specific military purpose, there really aren't many practical applications in the civilian world. You can pick these up brand new for $175-220 if you are diligent. Much less expensive than the $620 MR Crewcab (which admittedly works better for its intended purpose). I'm thinking this will also make a great drone hauler if I can find the right sized Pelican case. |
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My current situation for a course I'm going to in the coming days.
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Originally Posted By Advance: Total weight if I had to guess is ~45-50 lbs. Since the THOR III is designed for a specific military purpose, there really aren't many practical applications in the civilian world. You can pick these up brand new for $175-220 if you are diligent. Much less expensive than the $620 MR Crewcab (which admittedly works better for its intended purpose). I'm thinking this will also make a great drone hauler if I can find the right sized Pelican case. View Quote The Crewcab is also like triple the size and comes with a NICE frame. Both of them absolutely sucked for the equipment we bought them for. They literally blocked the fans and made the thing overheat. |
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Originally Posted By MRTEX: I need a dump pouch. Works good for me. KISS. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455918/CCE4DB25-EE5A-47C4-B499-CBE2DFA6F258_jpe-2504205.JPG View Quote I find the TRex dump pouch bulky but well made. The HaleyStrategic is lower profile |
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Thanks. Probably stick with esstac. My whole rig is esstac.
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/221816/20221215_171858-2640099.jpg Mostly spiritus shit with some jones tactical and kinetic stuff sprinkled. View Quote |
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View Quote Are these two JSTA pouches on the side? What do you keep in them besides chem lights? I'm trying to decide what inserts if any I should get for the pouch, besides a rifle and pistol insert. |
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Originally Posted By doyouquaxu: Are these two JSTA pouches on the side? What do you keep in them besides chem lights? I'm trying to decide what inserts if any I should get for the pouch, besides a rifle and pistol insert. View Quote Yeah, JSTAs, and I had them modified a little to stow TQs and chem-lights on the outside; the inside keeps a range finder, IFAK, tape, paracord, and other small shit. I'm not using any inserts inside the pouches though. |
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This is all I got so far. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: Yeah, JSTAs, and I had them modified a little to stow TQs and chem-lights on the outside; the inside keeps a range finder, IFAK, tape, paracord, and other small shit. I'm not using any inserts inside the pouches though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By doyouquaxu: Are these two JSTA pouches on the side? What do you keep in them besides chem lights? I'm trying to decide what inserts if any I should get for the pouch, besides a rifle and pistol insert. Yeah, JSTAs, and I had them modified a little to stow TQs and chem-lights on the outside; the inside keeps a range finder, IFAK, tape, paracord, and other small shit. I'm not using any inserts inside the pouches though. Ah yes, I see the elastic you added, now. Very clever. I added the Tracer Viper Panels to mine and the shock cord on the sides that helps retain the mod and keep a flat pouch can also do some minor retention of a similar type. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: Yeah, JSTAs, and I had them modified a little to stow TQs and chem-lights on the outside; the inside keeps a range finder, IFAK, tape, paracord, and other small shit. I'm not using any inserts inside the pouches though. View Quote Nice, thanks. I was wondering why yours had the elastic and mine didn't, thought it might have been an older design. I like the pouch so far, running it on my first line belt. |
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Originally Posted By DefenderAO: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183262/Screenshot_2023-02-09_at_11_47_15_AM_png-2704520.JPG View Quote I was curious if we were still doing loadout pics...I'm testing a new hot weather camo pattern this summer that I picked up on a return trip from the rockies. I thought long and hard earlier this year about ditching the airframe, JPC, and MRB for updated kit; but I'm gonna give it all another season. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284414/20230616_181924-2853879.jpg Day hike kit View Quote I see you are a man of classic taste as well. M81 FOREVER. The Lord's plaid. Nice rig. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284414/20230616_181924-2853879.jpg Day hike kit View Quote Can you dig it! Ole school, must have the knife. |
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Originally Posted By Currahee: My go-to set up after a match. It's important to find a way to test stuff. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55313/IMG_1995_jpeg-2866687.JPG View Quote If you’re going to have the tubular nylon on your kit I suggest securing the two running ends together either with a water knot, or have a loop on each end and connect them with a carabiner. It’s one of those things where if you need to use it, it’s typically a thing where it has to go fast |
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Originally Posted By mban2: If you're going to have the tubular nylon on your kit I suggest securing the two running ends together either with a water knot, or have a loop on each end and connect them with a carabiner. It's one of those things where if you need to use it, it's typically a thing where it has to go fast View Quote |
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We used those for dragging people, you would loop it under their arms and pull them like you are a plow horse, or to lower someone from one story of a building to another, or you do a girth hitch around an object to make a fixed line…. All of these tasks typically happen quickly. We always kept overhand-type knots on each end that formed a bite and used a carabiner to make the line into a loop for this stuff. It’s just one less thing to worry about or fuck up when you are moving fast in the dark/gunfight/medical emergency.
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Originally Posted By daemon734: Ive dragged plenty of people with those lines, you don't want it pulling at one side or the armor is just going to try to come off the entire time. You want it under their arms or run through the molle and an even pull across the entire carrier. A Grimloc will not hold together at all. The only thing I don't like about the water knot is that it can come apart when shaken, so getting in/out of vehicles likes to pull it apart. I just do a double overhand to tie it off. Here's an older setup I used, you break the rubber band and 4 feet of pull line drops already connected to drag somebody to cover. No running lines through or around anyone (which may not work if the person is missing their arm) and no fucking around connecting carabiners in the dark. My newer setup has an overhand knot tied off instead of a water knot (for the reasons motioned above) and the rubber band was replaced with a quick pull velcro flap I made. https://i.imgur.com/pGIp7i6.jpg View Quote I used to have mine attached exactly the way you did until I went to a climbing team and we did a lot of lowering/lifting between balconies and such. There are lots of good ways to do this, and yours is very practical for almost everything you will encounter |
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Originally Posted By mban2: I used to have mine attached exactly the way you did until I went to a climbing team and we did a lot of lowering/lifting between balconies and such. There are lots of good ways to do this, and yours is very practical for almost everything you will encounter View Quote Ah yeah, in extraction and climbing and you definitely don't want to be getting pulled by your carrier for that. I carry a separate line for lifting/lowering stuff and people. |
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Originally Posted By daemon734: Ah yeah, in extraction and climbing and you definitely don't want to be getting pulled by your carrier for that. I carry a separate line for lifting/lowering stuff and people. View Quote It is intended for looping under arms. I wouldn't try to pull some by the carrier if there was another option. if I had a team that practiced that shit regularly, with SOPs it would be run under the carrier and attached to the belt then excess gathered at the top. |
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Earlier at some point i was taught the under arms way.
Some swore by It (expecially trainers). Not something stable or particularly usable in my opinion. I think the way shown by daemon Is the best One. I think someone also used a climbing carabiner to attach the lower part to a rigger or a blast belt to mitigate the armor riding up, do i remember wrong?. Needless to Say you needed a quality carrier. We used the early Kosmo Mout lifeline, a design that could definitely be improved. At some point we had carriers that had rescue handles attached at the end of a 2-3 feet webbing tucked into the plate bag that popped out when you grabbed the handle so you had a Little more space as the handle cleared the wounded Person neck, head and helmet. It put a lot of strain to the material, but It held securely. I still prefer the standard One and the large webbing loop. Edit: i forgot that the large underarm webbing loop technique was standard procedure for those african wildlife Rangers i met that run unarmored. |
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A webbing method I have seen that seems to work well is the following;
Run the running end under their torso just under their armpits Take the working end and pass it through the loop at the tip of the running end Pull the working end tight to cinch it around the body then drag. Not sure if that makes sense the way I typed it. The PC kind of acts as a cushion between the body and webbing. Plus cinching it tight and being under the armpits prevents the PC from pulling off. It’s only meant to move someone from a danger area to better cover. |
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Originally Posted By cap6888: A webbing method I have seen that seems to work well is the following; Run the running end under their torso just under their armpits Take the working end and pass it through the loop at the tip of the running end Pull the working end tight to cinch it around the body then drag. Not sure if that makes sense the way I typed it. The PC kind of acts as a cushion between the body and webbing. Plus cinching it tight and being under the armpits prevents the PC from pulling off. It’s only meant to move someone from a danger area to better cover. View Quote That is the best way with regard to comfort of the individual. It isn't the best way if you are taking fire. It takes too much time to set up and limits you to pulling a single line which means you are forced to walk backwards and it's hard to do prone if you have to crawl, as opposed to tossing it over your waist and walking forward. It also doesn't work if the guy is missing an arm and can take more time depending on how he individual is laying on the ground. If the arm is pinned to the ground you have to roll the guy around before you can loop the line under the armpit. I've gone through a LOT of training iterations of this and a few live runs and the SOP always shakes out to nylon run through the carrier. You can access it with the casualty in pretty much any position. The only revision i've made was swapping rubber bands for a velcro quick pull tab, I can get pictures of that later. |
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Originally Posted By daemon734: That is the best way with regard to comfort of the individual. It isn't the best way if you are taking fire. It takes too much time to set up and limits you to pulling a single line which means you are forced to walk backwards and it's hard to do prone if you have to crawl, as opposed to tossing it over your waist and walking forward. It also doesn't work if the guy is missing an arm and can take more time depending on how he individual is laying on the ground. If the arm is pinned to the ground you have to roll the guy around before you can loop the line under the armpit. I've gone through a LOT of training iterations of this and a few live runs and the SOP always shakes out to nylon run through the carrier. You can access it with the casualty in pretty much any position. The only revision i've made was swapping rubber bands for a velcro quick pull tab, I can get pictures of that later. View Quote I went to our sew shop and had the riggers make me a sheath similar to the lowering line used jumping. I keep it rubber banded to my kit and it keeps it slightly safer from constant rubbing/sand when helps keep the integrity of the line in case you have to use it for something like pulling a vehicle or something. TBH, a big loop of nylon is always in my emergency shit, even at home because you can do damn near anything with it |
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